I think I am the only person other than Bush who is Pro Iraq War.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Sadam had to go - I agree we had to go in, just not for the reasons we gave.

We should also go in where there are other atrocities taking place.

I hate it when people say we shouldnt have gone to war because we didnt in Somalia or Rwanda.

Yes we should have stopped the shit in those places - but it dosnt make sense to say we are hypocrites so Iraq shouldnt have happened. We would be even worse if Iraq was left to rot.

Nobody should have to suffer, we have enough to make the world 100% free from poverty and fear.

OK - I have to go to the chemist to get my happy pills now.

Rant Over

[Porn Farmer]

Shut up you faggot.

You know why the U.S. didn't go into Rwanda and Somalia (or Sudan more recently)? Because there's no fucking oil. Iraq had nothing to do with Saddam. It had nothing to do with atrocities. It had nothing to do with WMD which they knew weren't there.

Here's Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam the day the U.N. released a report that he had used mustard and nerve gas against Iran. But that was in 1984 when they had a use for him. There were "atrocities" being committed back then too but the Reagan administration didn't say shit.



The day you see the U.S. invade and occupy a country where "atrocities" are occurring and that country doesn't have oil is the day this happens:

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Sadam had to go - I agree we had to go in, just not for the reasons we gave.

We should also go in where there are other atrocities taking place.

I hate it when people say we shouldnt have gone to war because we didnt in Somalia or Rwanda.

Yes we should have stopped the shit in those places - but it dosnt make sense to say we are hypocrites so Iraq shouldnt have happened. We would be even worse if Iraq was left to rot.

Nobody should have to suffer, we have enough to make the world 100% free from poverty and fear.

OK - I have to go to the chemist to get my happy pills now.

Rant Over

What is the "we" you speak of, aren't you in Europe?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

Shut up you faggot.

You know why the U.S. didn't go into Rwanda and Somalia (or Sudan more recently)? Because there's no fucking oil. Iraq had nothing to do with Saddam. It had nothing to do with atrocities. It had nothing to do with WMD which they knew weren't there.

Here's Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam the day the U.N. released a report that he had used mustard and nerve gas against Iran. But that was in 1984 when they had a use for him. There were "atrocities" being committed back then too but the Reagan administration didn't say shit.



The day you see the U.S. invade and occupy a country where "atrocities" are occurring and that country doesn't have oil is the day this happens:

Even if you are correct and oil was the only reason...it would be a damn good singular reason...now wouldn't it?

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by lazycash

What is the "we" you speak of, aren't you in Europe?

lol - That just about sums it up

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

Shut up you faggot.

You know why the U.S. didn't go into Rwanda and Somalia (or Sudan more recently)? Because there's no fucking oil. Iraq had nothing to do with Saddam. It had nothing to do with atrocities. It had nothing to do with WMD which they knew weren't there.

Here's Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam the day the U.N. released a report that he had used mustard and nerve gas against Iran. But that was in 1984 when they had a use for him. There were "atrocities" being committed back then too but the Reagan administration didn't say shit.



The day you see the U.S. invade and occupy a country where "atrocities" are occurring and that country doesn't have oil is the day this happens:

'Faggot'? - I will pretend to be offended!

Read the first sentance again.....

[JamesK]

I never understood why sales reps make threads like this.

[Porn Farmer]

Originally Posted by theking

Even if you are correct and oil was the only reason...it would be a damn good singular reason...now wouldn't it?

An attitude like that is why you are short two towers in New York City now isn't it?

Originally Posted by JamesK

I never understood why sales reps make threads like this.

see sig

[sweetcuties]

He will go down as one of the worst President's in history!

Very sad you feel that way, extemely sad

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by JamesK

I never understood why sales reps make threads like this.

I cant have an opinion because I am a Rep?

I have been a member of GFY for over 5 years - People know me, they know I have a perverse veiw of the world sometimes.

If I changed who I am just because I got a job, people would notice and I dont think they would be happy that I 'changed' and became an ass kisser.

This is really not a good day to be calling me on this shit

[Porn Farmer]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

This is really not a good day to be calling me on this shit

Well eat shit you limp wristed cock licker.... YOU STARTED THE FUCKING THREAD!

So live with it, and all of the consequences that come with it.

You stated that it was fine for the Bush administration to go into Iraq and that the US shouldn't be accused of hypocrisy because it didn't go into Rwanda, Somalia and Sudan... even though by your own admission "atrocities" on the same scale were occurring there too.

Well you can take your opinion and shove it up your loose ass because that's where it belongs.

[IllTestYourGirls]

other than Bush? You mean other than Bush, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Obama, McCain, Romney and Huckabee.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

An attitude like that is why you are short two towers in New York City now isn't it?

We have an abundance of towers in the US...and the capability to build more...now don't we? Oil on the other hand is a finite resource.

[JamesK]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I cant have an opinion because I am a Rep?

No. This is supposed to be a business forum. Some people are really touchy on this topic because people have died for no reason. Also the majority of the people are against this war also so I suggest you just keep your mouth shut if you want to represent your company well.

I honestly can't believe how unprofessional this business is.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

You stated that it was fine for the Bush administration to go into Iraq and that the US shouldn't be accused of hypocrisy because it didn't go into Rwanda, Somalia and Sudan... even though by your own admission "atrocities" on the same scale were occurring there too.

Thats exactly the opposite to what I said, learn to read before you start shit.

Fucking moron.....

[sweetcuties]

Wow, I can't believe people here actually think Bush is right, lol. What a fucking joke

[buzzy]

wipe israel and america off the map so we can all live in peace

[Porn Farmer]

Originally Posted by theking

We have an abundance of towers in the US...and the capability to build more...now don't we? Oil on the other hand is a finite resource.

So you are a thief and someone who endorses theft. And not just theft, but someone who would happily spill the blood of innocent civilians in order to facilitate that theft.

Now why doesn't that surprise me.... scumbag.

You are a classic case of bad karma. You have been punished by the universe for being a piece of shit. Every day you feel agonising pain and you will continue to feel this every day until the day you die, which should be too far away.

You have been judged and punished and every day you pay the price.

And you deserve nothing less.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

lol - That just about sums it up

Guess I'm not going to get an answer.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by JamesK

No. This is supposed to be a business forum. Some people are really touchy on this topic because people have died for no reason. Also the majority of the people are against this war also so I suggest you just keep your mouth shut if you want to represent your company well.

I honestly can't believe how unprofessional this business is.

I would take your point if I had changed my opinion.

I think it is outragious that on GFY of all places I am attacked because I dont agree with the majority and I am called unprofessional.

Sorry I dont agree with you, but thats the way it is.

[Porn Farmer]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Thats exactly the opposite to what I said, learn to read before you start shit.

Fucking moron.....

Originally Posted by Maxcash Sodomite

I hate it when people say we shouldnt have gone to war because we didnt in Somalia or Rwanda.

Yes we should have stopped the shit in those places - but it dosnt make sense to say we are hypocrites so Iraq shouldnt have happened.

Learn to read what you write you limey sack of fag garbage.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Guess I'm not going to get an answer.

I am British....

Unless I have been seriously mislead we are in Iraq as well. Thats why I said 'we'....

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

Learn to read what you write you limey sack of fag garbage.

Maxcash Sodomite - lol

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I am British....

Unless I have been seriously mislead we are in Iraq as well. Thats why I said 'we'....

So how come you don't have any sense? I guess there's always a few bad apples...

[theking]

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer

So you are a thief and someone who endorses theft. And not just theft, but someone who would happily spill the blood of innocent civilians in order to facilitate that theft.

Now why doesn't that surprise me.... scumbag.

You are a classic case of bad karma. You have been punished by the universe for being a piece of shit. Every day you feel agonising pain and you will continue to feel this every day until the day you die, which should be too far away.

You have been judged and punished and every day you pay the price.

And you deserve nothing less.

Well...I do have the pleasure of knowing that I am not you. BTW I do not believe in mysticism...I live in the real world...unlike yourself.

[JamesK]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I would take your point if I had changed my opinion.

I think it is outragious that on GFY of all places I am attacked because I dont agree with the majority and I am called unprofessional.

Sorry I dont agree with you, but thats the way it is.

Just because this board is called GoFuckYourself and the majority of the members (trolls) makes idiotic racist and political threads doesn't mean it's OK to be like that. Most of the people here do it with a fake nick, no business sense or they're not dependent on the GFY crowd.

Look at StickyFingers. Why do you think he got bashed so much? Why did 90% of the people hate him? Because of his political threads. Then he made one mistake by not paying his partner and the drama blew up in his face.

[severe]

the only thing i can agree with is that we need to stay the course now that we're there. i never considered it a good idea to go in to iraq but those countries need to be put on their feet, we cant leave until thats accomplished otherwise it will breed only more hate.

but i completely disagree that we need to police the world. hell our country is in shambles. people do not like other countries that exert their will. unless peeps ask for help we need to let them be and fight it out themselves. and in reality that is what we do unless it impacts our interests.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by JamesK

No. This is supposed to be a business forum. Some people are really touchy on this topic because people have died for no reason. Also the majority of the people are against this war also so I suggest you just keep your mouth shut if you want to represent your company well.

I honestly can't believe how unprofessional this business is.

I am not sure when you have been on this board when it has been all business. I have been here since the board opened and there has always been a rather good amount of 'fucking around' in the 'fucking around & program discussion' part of the board.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by JamesK

Just because this board is called GoFuckYourself and the majority of the members (trolls) makes idiotic racist and political threads doesn't mean it's OK to be like that. Most of the people here do it with a fake nick, no business sense or they're not dependent on the GFY crowd.

Look at StickyFingers. Why do you think he got bashed so much? Why did 90% of the people hate him? Because of his political threads. Then he made one mistake by not paying his partner and the drama blew up in his face.

Politics is all about debate and different opinions.

I find it offensive that because I dont share your opinion you suggest that I am unprofessional....

The point is that we can have different points of view - If I am not allowed that at least then GFY becomes what we ALL hate.

[JamesK]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I find it offensive that because I dont share your opinion you suggest that I am unprofessional....

I find it unprofessional because you take a risk at losing a small portion of business, while your job is increasing the company's revenue. It's a touchy subject and some people lost their family members over this.

Anyway that's my opinion. I'm not going to discuss this any further, got work to do. Good luck with the great political discussion you're going to have with the intellectual GFY crowd

[Phil]

"Sadam had to go"

Why? Because “Saddam is Baaaad?” what about other “bad” people like Mugabe, Chavez etc.. why not go out there as well? Baaad? Well, that bad person was able to contain all Muslim freaks in Iraq, and whats happening now? How many baaaads replaced one bad?

[justsexxx]

Lol you are clueless

[Violetta]

war is soo 1960...

[Scootermuze]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Politics is all about debate and different opinions.

I find it offensive that because I dont share your opinion you suggest that I am unprofessional....

You've been on this board long enough to know good & well that you'd get heat over your post, so saying you find some replies offensive, knowing you'd be getting them, is a bit silly..

Not really sure why people post things that appear to be obvious attempts to stir stuff up.. then act all surprised...

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Scootermuze

You've been on this board long enough to know good & well that you'd get heat over your post, so saying you find some replies offensive, knowing you'd be getting them, is a bit silly..

Not really sure why people post things that appear to be obvious attempts to stir stuff up.. then act all surprised...

OK - It was to stir things up - Why not?

I back what I said BTW - I think we (The richer countries) do need to stop tyrants. We shouldnt just ignore what is going on around the world.....

We cant use the the excuse 'I am american' or 'I am British' why should I care what is happening in the world around us.

I know it sounds trite - but we are citizens of the world first and Americans or Europeans last.

We are obliged to protect each other.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by JamesK

Just because this board is called GoFuckYourself and the majority of the members (trolls) makes idiotic racist and political threads doesn't mean it's OK to be like that. Most of the people here do it with a fake nick, no business sense or they're not dependent on the GFY crowd.

Look at StickyFingers. Why do you think he got bashed so much? Why did 90% of the people hate him? Because of his political threads. Then he made one mistake by not paying his partner and the drama blew up in his face.

Umm ya 90% eh? 90% of the trolls. Amazing anyone that has an opinion opposing that of the majority needs to be crucified around here. The REALLY funny part is its done by liberals that tout "freedom of speech" 24/7 till they dont like what they hear. Then they call someone a blimey fag.

Funny you didnt like Damians opinion, but you had no problem spouting your uneducated one about me.

[tony286]

Your for the war then go sign up.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by buzzy

wipe israel and america off the map so we can all live in peace

take Celtic while they're at it

[StuartD]

Back to the subject at hand... I never had a problem with taking Saddam out. I had a problem with the agenda behind it.

Why divert attention away from Bin Laden after 9/11 to suddenly feel that Saddam is not such a nice guy over there? Why were there false reports about WMD's that they were so certain were true? Why would Bush so quickly say that Bin Laden wasn't a priority?

There was just TOO MUCH obviously wrong with the whole scenario and that's what upset people.

Now, go back to Desert Storm... had they of removed Saddam then, no one would have blinked an eye. It would make perfect sense. But why just forget about him until after 9/11 and have this desire to get him all of a sudden out of the blue??

[tony286]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Back to the subject at hand... I never had a problem with taking Saddam out. I had a problem with the agenda behind it.

Why divert attention away from Bin Laden after 9/11 to suddenly feel that Saddam is not such a nice guy over there? Why were there false reports about WMD's that they were so certain were true? Why would Bush so quickly say that Bin Laden wasn't a priority?

There was just TOO MUCH obviously wrong with the whole scenario and that's what upset people.

Now, go back to Desert Storm... had they of removed Saddam then, no one would have blinked an eye. It would make perfect sense. But why just forget about him until after 9/11 and have this desire to get him all of a sudden out of the blue??

All those people Saddam killed they forget the first part of that. Bush the first told them rise up and we will help you.They rose up, we went home.

[robfantasy]

did anyone see the 60 minutes interview with the fbi guy who worked on sadaam and got intellegence from him after he was captured and in us custody?



sadaam clearly said that iran was more of a threat than the US and this is why he had to make it look like iraq had wmd to prevent an invasion from Iran.

he said he thought the US would back down and not do anything. and at the time he DIDNT have WMD but he wanted to give the appearance he did so he would not appear weak.

he ALSO said that at the time he didnt have wmd, but HE WAS PLANNING AND WAS TRYING TO GET WMD in the future.

so apparently all the middle eastern nut jobs are trying to acquire WMD and fucking obama and clinton thinks we can solve this with talks. are u fucking kidding me?

the left wing liberal idiots are going to cause this country to lose its super power status. the world is watching, waiting and laughing.. they are probably waiting for us to elect a soft president like obama or clinton, thats when theyll strike and we wont know what to do.

we need a president who will take no shit, the world climate is different now... we need to be on the offense instead of the defense

[tony286]

Originally Posted by robfantasy

did anyone see the 60 minutes interview with the fbi guy who worked on sadaam and got intellegence from him after he was captured and in us custody?



sadaam clearly said that iran was more of a threat than the US and this is why he had to make it look like iraq had wmd to prevent an invasion from Iran.

he said he thought the US would back down and not do anything. and at the time he DIDNT have WMD but he wanted to give the appearance he did so he would not appear weak.

he ALSO said that at the time he didnt have wmd, but HE WAS PLANNING AND WAS TRYING TO GET WMD in the future.

so apparently all the middle eastern nut jobs are trying to acquire WMD and fucking obama and clinton thinks we can solve this with talks. are u fucking kidding me?

the left wing liberal idiots are going to cause this country to lose its super power status. the world is watching, waiting and laughing.. they are probably waiting for us to elect a soft president like obama or clinton, thats when theyll strike and we wont know what to do.

we need a president who will take no shit, the world climate is different now... we need to be on the offense instead of the defense

We need get off oil that is the key. You people keep forgetting we put the wackos in power over there,from Saddam to training bin laden to fight. They arent just picking on us for no reason. We depend on one of the most unstable parts of the world its fucking crazy. We cant win there they have been fighting for 1000's of years and we arent going to make them stop.
We are going to lose our superpower status because of your prez putting us in such a financial hole.

[Babaganoosh]

Program owners, please educate your reps on proper board conduct. Between this idiot and sarah, maxcash won't be getting another hit from me. As their title implies, your representatives "represent" your company. To a lot of people, this translates to "Maxcash loves George Bush is pro war." Muzzle these idiots or lose money. Your choice.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Program owners, please educate your reps on proper board conduct. Between this idiot and sarah, maxcash won't be getting another hit from me. As their title implies, your representatives "represent" your company. To a lot of people, this translates to "Maxcash loves George Bush is pro war." Muzzle these idiots or lose money. Your choice.

I have heard some crap on GFY - But this takes the cake.

I could come on here and just spam the shit out of my sites - but I decided I wanted to be a part of the GFY community as well - as I have always been.

I am sorry if that is a problem for you.....

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I have heard some crap on GFY - But this takes the cake.

I could come on here and just spam the shit out of my sites - but I decided I wanted to be a part of the GFY community as well - as I have always been.

I am sorry if that is a problem for you.....

You're welcome to your opinion. Just be aware that your idiotic opinions may reflect poorly on your employer. Frankly if I were promoting maxcash and you were my rep, I would be pretty irritated. I mean, if you can't think rationally about something as obvious as the unjust war in Iraq, I certainly wouldn't be able to trust you with my traffic.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

You're welcome to your opinion. Just be aware that your idiotic opinions may reflect poorly on your employer. Frankly if I were promoting maxcash and you were my rep, I would be pretty irritated. I mean, if you can't think rationally about something as obvious as the unjust war in Iraq, I certainly wouldn't be able to trust you with my traffic.

Its impossible to have a rational debate here - and this is why.

Its the 'You are wrong and I am right' school of debating.

I am right and if you say different I wont send you any traffic.... Dear god!

[BradM]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

You're welcome to your opinion. Just be aware that your idiotic opinions may reflect poorly on your employer. Frankly if I were promoting maxcash and you were my rep, I would be pretty irritated. I mean, if you can't think rationally about something as obvious as the unjust war in Iraq, I certainly wouldn't be able to trust you with my traffic.

Agreed.

Damian, take your bipolar crazy bullshit and IMMEDIATELY exit this thread. You're sounding like an absolute douche bag.

[DaddyHalbucks]

It's nice to see at least a few other sensible souls on GFY.

Right upfront, GWB said that oil was one factor in the war.

What I REALLY don't get is people who say the US should not be the 'policeman of the world' in regards to Iraq out of the one side of their mouth, and then out of the other side of their mouth blast us for not fighting more wars to combat atrocities in other countries. That makes no sense.

NONE.

[scottybuzz]

i say if america was to invade iraq due to reasons of liberation then he should to the same to the people of darfur, north korea and countless other places where human rights are shocking.

but no, i think america choose iraq for the stronghold of the middle east.
I dont think the plan has worked 100% though.

But I think america should be honest and say they are attacking to steal the oil and hold a strong position in the middle east instead of this bull, but then again, he wouldnt have got people agreeing with him if he was honest.


heck what do i know? Am i in any position of power ? no, just like the rest of you sykes, now stfu and get back to work, believe it or not your opinions mean shit. now fuck off and work for the machine and worry about the prices of apples in wallmart.