When exactly did this thread go from being about 12clicks telling kids not to complain to a full-scale bro-argument-orgy?

And more to the point, how shit am I if my sig, in prime place of post #2, still hasn't generated me any money? :helpme

nice, - just registered www.assmakescoin.com

thank you

I'm in Central Florida again. I'll have to make it down. I haven't played chess since Kasparov game.

Well, I wasn't expecting history. I finished it twice.

Sure enough, I leave home for one weekend this winter and that's when Ron decides to take his show on the road. :(

:D

Yes!!! lmk when you coming

I hope this is not true because I know more than ten amateur girls who dont know shit, who get more traffic than your whole program.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/121/2...b3e40a.jpg?v=0

well have them look me up at the next show, I'll include them all for dinner and they can tell me all about traffic.
:1orglaugh

I doubt you would listen. :2 cents:

and they said you were slow!

You missed the main point but you did grasp the theme

WTF??
Ron, we do business together and you've never bought me a drink at a show...wait...do I write the testimonial before or after said drink?

bah, fuck it, with the business we do together, we can afford our own drinks at APM...

haha, see... exactly what I was talking about. You have no idea who I am or what I do, yet you assume I'm some guy living in his mom's basement? Your lame ass program would love to have an affiliate that does half as many sales as I do. If you've been doing online adult for 10 years then I've been in this "business" for just as long as you. I've never been to an industry event, why would I? I work online. When I go on vacation a bunch of webmasters are the last people I want to hang around with (no offense to most of you, some webmasters are normal people... but there's a bunch of fucking weirdos in this line of work too).

hahaha, so true

son, I know exactly who/what you are and the fact that you think a webmaster event is some sort of vacation speaks volumes.
now how about you just run along, hone your pretend game and come back next time with your big boy voice.:1orglaugh

Dude, I was going to ask you for a testimonial but I thought you'd end up gaying it up with that naked pic of you in the shower that shows up every time your name is mentioned.
:winkwink:

well sure, that pic always has to accompany testimonials...it's not that the pic itself is gay...just that it makes straight men question their sexuality ;-)

while you are here, you did get that tour zip I mailed you right? Just want to make sure, if not Ill resend right now.

*launching a tour through APM for those who have been waiting for it.

Yup, got it and looked it over and everything looks good to go :)

Should be announcing it soon to our webmasters. It's a damn good looking tour. Great job, man :)

As I told you when we started talking about this, if all goes smooth, you can expect more from me, I needed to feel out the process and the requirements.

I can't launch tours through Pimproll anylonger (seems they stopped the byot thing), so you will have my attention :) I definitely plan on more tours with you, cheers.

Speaks volumes? I've never been to one and I've done quite well in this biz so far.

well, we'll just go ahead and take your word on that.:1orglaugh

How many millions do you make in thsi business on the anual basis?

I know 12 clicks is semi broke, he barely makes 1.2 a year nowadays. Do you beat him and by how much?

I learned a long time ago not to argue with 12clicks.

He drags you down to his level, and then beats you with experience.

Shows how little you know about this biz. I would say the MAJORITY of people making real money have never attended an adult show.

The glaring proof of your non success with your program is that you think being a sig whore on GFY will somehow make your proggie a success. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Take your 5000 uniques a day and start a blog why dont u. :1orglaugh

Hey 12clicks backing yourself up with your alter sig ego does not make your right.

Trust me, nocomments isn't his alter sig ego - nor is he backing him up :winkwink:

I must not have caught the sarcasm in his post. I really should pay more attention. ;)

Backing, shmacking,
I just post the numbers.

When somebody who claims to make "real money in the business" barks on somebody who grosses roughly $100,000 a month,
I am curious about what barker calls as "real money".

Peaches, I was skeptical about 12 clicks progyy's success until I peeked at his numbers (no, he has no clue where and how, he didn't give them to me)

From where I sit, $100,000 a month in today's environment is not that chubby. Am I wrong?

What about interest rates? Every day you keep money you receive a % in interest rates and make money of other people's money.

For someone who's in the biz as long as Ron and Robert have and having the program up at least a year, especially as hard as Ron's been working it, I'd honestly say $100K gross isn't that much to brag about and I really hope they are grossing more than that. I know affiliates who gross more than that. Heck, even Colin stated he'd received a 6 figure check from The 12. That's why I said you weren't really backing him with those numbers. :winkwink:

Just being honest. And remember, I've HAVE seen affiliate checks being sent out - I'm not just going by what they say they make. The affiliates are buying traffic with that money though, just like 12clicks' program is. Plus they have more overhead than most affiliates have.

$100K gross for a company or even program isn't the same now as it was back in your prime :thumbsup

P, I don't gross 100k a month nowadays, so for me 100k is a "good number"
(assuming the profit margin is 50% ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to gross $100K a month - but I don't have a partner, employees, affiliates, designers, content or traffic to pay for :thumbsup

I can't imagine where this info comes from but it can't possibly come from ALL the banks and processors I do business with.

but I don't mind people guessing.
I am surprised to see people thinking I'm working hard though. The arcade game mojo bought me for christmas whispers in my ear all day.

Ron, don't guess, I don't reveal my sources
;)

You should know first hand -
if information is out there,
it can be obtained
:D

at what banks pay today in interest, all I can say, and I hope you understand Yiddish, even though the nature of your post doesn't suggest it:

AZOHEN VEY!

I have to agree with you on this one.

I can GuARaNTEE you that 12clicks program does not come close to 100,000. a month profit. I doubt it profits more than 10,000.

You can't guarantee and I can...therefore,
keep your mouth shut, learn from the elders and re-read FAQ regarding GFY signature rules.

and

;-))

Oi!!! Watch it!!!

I stole that off serge , don't you dare steal that style from me ;-))))