Can you be spiritual and be part of this industry?

[SykkBoy]

I'm not talking about bible thumping, church going, book burning brimstone and fire horseshit, but spiritual in a sense of being at one with nature, the earth, the elements, etc.?

Is it the same thing to believe in God as it is to believe in Mother Nature, but they are just different names for the same thing?

Do you have to subscribe to Christian theory in order to believe in things like demons and angels? Good and bad?

Is being spiritual and in this industry the same kind of almost hypocrisy as being a Catholic or Lutheran and being in this industry?

[munki]

Why couldn't you be?

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Yes. The mountains are my religion, god or whatever you want to call it. I am at home and feel at peace.

[SykkBoy]

I consider myself spiritual, but not religious....I'm a big believer in things like mother nature, forces of nature and even demons and angels, just not in the whole vengeful God sort of way....

I was talking to a friend yesterday and he said that it's weird I'm spiritual and in porn. That spirituality is the same as being a cross wearing Christian...sometimes I wonder who are the bigger kooks...hardcore religious people or hardcore anti-religious people? ;-)

[Shok]

I still suck Satan's cock before bedtime

[LaoTzu]

From http://cc.purdue.edu/~wtv/tibet/tbuddha.html:
The practice of having female companions for meditation is called " the union of voidness and happiness" or the union of the two polarities (yab-yum). This practice, based on the theory of the Mahavairocana-sutra and the Vajrasekhara-sutra, is a distinctive feature of the Esoteric Buddhism. Sex is strictly forbidden by the Exoteric Buddhism, but it is part of meditation practice in the Esoteric Buddhism. As Vajrasekhara-sutra says, "How pure is man's mind! It's only natural that lust should change him. Keeping away from lust will restore purity in him, and keeping away from lust means conquering it with another form of lust." Sex is thus shrouded in mysticism and given the role of "conquering lust". It becomes a mean by which the follower of the Esoteric Buddhism can achieve self-purification of his nature. According to the Esoteric Buddhism, "the attraction of lust will draw one into the realm of the wisdom of the Buddha", that is, by means of carnal love the bodhisattva leads one to liberation. This accounts for the fact that the Esoteric Buddhism treats women as offerings. What "The Collected Works of Buddhism Literature" terms as "love for offerings": refers to the love for women. This theme is repeated in the Mahavairocana-sutra, which says,"Satisfy the desire for sex so that all beings will be happy." According to the Esoteric Buddhism, Mahavairocana lives in Heaven like an earthy being- accompanied by the Marici (Queen of Heaven) and surrounded by female attendants. As a result, the rajas (devas and vajras), instructed by Mahavairocana to subdue demons, are in their "wrathful forms" accompanied by devis, their female counterparts.

Mastery of sex is often considered an alternative method to achieving conscious navigation of the bardo realm. Not sure how that applies to peddling smut, but maybe we're all just spreading the Dharma in our on way

[D-Money]

The answer is yes.

AND

You can also be into religion too.

At least us jews can celebrate sex and not feel bad making money from it.

Nem de gelt!

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

I consider myself spiritual, but not religious....I'm a big believer in things like mother nature, forces of nature and even demons and angels, just not in the whole vengeful God sort of way....

I was talking to a friend yesterday and he said that it's weird I'm spiritual and in porn. That spirituality is the same as being a cross wearing Christian...sometimes I wonder who are the bigger kooks...hardcore religious people or hardcore anti-religious people? ;-)

People seem to like to put others in one small box and judge their whole existance by that one small box...x-tians love to do that silly shit.

I like to see the many sides of people and relish in All of their being.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Shok

I still suck Satan's cock before bedtime

as do we all...and do our spiritual dance of desire...

[zymhosting]

I believe you can definitely be spiritual and be in this industry. You can't look at spirituality as a religion, because it's not in the sense that there is no god to rule you and tell you what is right and wrong. Thus, i think as long as you are not harming any living thing it's perfectly alright to be in this industry. Thats just my opinion.

[Matyko]

I am spiritual since i ate my first piece of acid blotter at the age of 17. Until that time i was just a teenage punk bastard, i wasted my time with playing stupid rpg games :P
Since my mind is opened to the world I read much more quality books than before, I went to university and became an environmental enginner, and still i work in this industry :P I am running psychedelic/environmental related sites as well, and I link fuckforforest from all my adult sites :D
People should care much more about Mother Earth. I am very sad because of i see how humanity destroys nature without even knowing whats at stake...
However i dont worry to much - life is simply too short for that. i try to do everything in order to keep my city/surrounding clean, to be "carbon-neutral" etc. I do love riding bike and will never understand ppl (especially in hungary) with big SUVs in the middle of the traffic jams... From 10 cars here 8 has only 1 person sitting...
Click here to spend 5 minutes for what can you do
Carbon calculator
Classroom

Peace Love Unity Respect - and some porn ;)

[SleazyDream]

there are lots of devout jewish people in this game

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

Yes. The mountains are my religion, god or whatever you want to call it. I am at home and feel at peace.

what he said. the mountains are a powerful place, and i just don't feel comfortable or at peace much of anywhere else. i consider myself to be very spiritual in my beliefs, and i don't see why you couldn't be both spiritual and in the adult industry. even if it's a godly spiritually.

I don't think it's hypocritical to be spiritual and in this industry. Spirituality embraces the natural state, and being comfortable with your body & mind in relation to existence. Sex and spirituality go hand and hand, and if you aren't comfortable with sexuality, where do you stand in relation to nature and the energy which dictates it?

Now, this is where i start to get steamed.

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Is it the same thing to believe in God as it is to believe in Mother Nature, but they are just different names for the same thing?

I go absolutely ballistic when Christian bible warriors give me their whole rundown,, and then when i turn around and question their belief in one theological presence give me this "god is in everything" crap. NO NO NO. Shut your fucking mouth already you confused little fools. Don't give me all your crazy jewish fairytales, worship one theologic deity, and then tell me he's an energy that permeates everything in existence. These are the same christians who turn around and tell you, oh well Buddha, and Vishnu, and Xenu, and Tom Cruise, and Oprah Winfrey, and that they're all the same thing really. What? If you're gonna thump your fucking bible, at least thump the damn thing properly. If you're not going to embrace the religion for what it is, throw the fucking thing out and worship it for what it is. Energy in motion.

[brandonstills]

I consider myself very spiritual and have many beliefs about a higher power.

This is a quote from a Christian book entitled "The Prophet". I love quoting it when people give me crap about shooting nude photos.

On Clothes

And the weaver said, "Speak to us of Clothes."
And he answered:
Your clothes conceal much of your beauty, yet they hide not the unbeautiful.
And though you seek in garments the freedom of privacy you may find in them a harness and a chain.
Would that you could meet the sun and the wind with more of your skin and less of your raiment,
For the breath of life is in the sunlight and the hand of life is in the wind.
Some of you say, "It is the north wind who has woven the clothes to wear."
But shame was his loom, and the softening of the sinews was his thread.
And when his work was done he laughed in the forest.
Forget not that modesty is for a shield against the eye of the unclean.
And when the unclean shall be no more, what were modesty but a fetter and a fouling of the mind?
And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair.

[brandonstills]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Is it the same thing to believe in God as it is to believe in Mother Nature, but they are just different names for the same thing?

That's basically what most "pagan" religions would say. Christians called them witches and burned them at the stake!

[qxm]

Adult entertainment is our job I don't see why it should interfere with your beliefs unless you are going real hard into religion........in that case you might wanna consider mainstream.........

[Paul Markham]

If you believe in God, which ever way the major religions sell him, you believe he created us.

He made sex a pleasure, he made us able to have sex with as many partners as we wished, in and out of a relationship, he made us to look at attractive people and want to have sex with them. He made sex the way we reproduce. What give you the idea he was anti sex?

Now if some old man comes off a mountain and tells me he's been talking to God and God told him sex out of wedlock or for the pursuit of pleasure was fun I have to think he's lying of God screwed up.

As for devout Jews and a few other religions. If God did not like women menstruating he would choose another way to do it. He would not create women this way and then have men tell them they were unclean. Same goes for female circumcision.

Religion is business, big business. It's easier to control scared people who think they are evil than people who think they are right.

I believe in evolution and science and not what some guy wrote in a book and tells me God told him to write.

[kowalsky]

Of course you can be spiritual in this business.

[minniesoporno]

Savannhan Samson, Hersal Savage they are very much with thier regilion , and fully in the porn industry and successful in it.

Hersal Savage is a buddist.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Do you have to subscribe to Christian theory in order to believe in things like demons and angels?

yes.

there are no angels or devils in this world.

only good and bad people.

[Holly]

If your name is Donny: no.

[Spunky]

Jesus forgives everybody..repent sinners

[EuroRev_Stacey]

Anybody can be into PORN, whether spiritual or not as this is only a JOB...

[Octopus]

Yes, of course. And why not? You dont have to be a real scoundrel to work in this business.

[selena]

Of course you can be.

I believe you can also be a Christian and be part of this industry.

And that you can be a moral person. I don't view the adult industry in and of itself and morals as being opposites.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by Holly

If your name is Donny: no.

that guy and the whole xxxchumps use porn as a platform to talk about and that's how they make their $. If not for porn they would have nothing...they are selling crap related to the adult industry. They are still in porn.

when the guy stops talking about women taking their clothes off past/present/future, he will be out of porn.

[cherrylula]

and my actual reply... sure you can be spiritual and a part of this industry. As long as you don't think charging $$$ for sex stuff is bad or will land you in hell.

[Holly]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

that guy and the whole xxxchumps use porn as a platform to talk about and that's how they make their $. If not for porn they would have nothing...they are selling crap related to the adult industry. They are still in porn.

when the guy stops talking about women taking their clothes off past/present/future, he will be out of porn.

The thing that really gives me a chuckle is that you KNOW they're all whacking off daily to whatever their latest fetish is. I would bet a million fucking dollars that virtually every one of them still watches and surfs porn. If I even gave two shits about it, I swear I'd try and chat them up and then go all Chris Hansen on their dumb asses.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by Holly

The thing that really gives me a chuckle is that you KNOW they're all whacking off daily to whatever their latest fetish is. I would bet a million fucking dollars that virtually every one of them still watches and surfs porn. If I even gave two shits about it, I swear I'd try and chat them up and then go all Chris Hansen on their dumb asses.

And their fetishes probably top anything we've seen on this board.

they still play lots of "games," no doubt.

[xmas13]

It's the same as "Can i be dumb and still part of this industry?"

Of course you can. What a silly question.

[NinjaSteve]

I think a spiritual person can believe in the goodness of all things. Including pron.

[Halcyon]

Absolutely.

Love,
Rev. Halcyon

[JayDeeZee]

Karma is my higher power.

Be kind and caring, try to do the right thing, don't hurt or rip off people.
Good things will happen.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Absolutely.

Love,
Rev. Halcyon

I wonder how many of us actually have the Rev status.

im a card carrier too.

Rev Fletch XXX

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

what he said. the mountains are a powerful place, and i just don't feel comfortable or at peace much of anywhere else. i consider myself to be very spiritual in my beliefs, and i don't see why you couldn't be both spiritual and in the adult industry. even if it's a godly spiritually.

Im a gal

[Sarah_Jayne]

Yes you can be but I can appreciate why it might feel like something best kept to yourself. Claiming to have any sort of spirituality is often met in this 'community' with the same harshness as many of us anticipate we would be met in a spiritual community if our profession was known. Which leaves many of us with a sense of spirituality drifting in the middle somewhere. It doesn't help when people like Donny are the face of spirituality here.

[dready]

You can be whatever you want. You create your own reality.

[SykkBoy]

Wow, I forgot I started this thread....I kept thinking "when did I post this?" and realized someone bumped an old thread ;-)

I've actually since started going to church on Sundays and I'm finding I'm very comfortable mixing a religious belief system with the adult entertainment industry. I mean, it's not like I make cigarettes that kill millions of people or alcohol that leads to a lot of deaths...

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I wonder how many of us actually have the Rev status.

im a card carrier too.

Rev Fletch XXX

Raises hand. lol

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Wow, I forgot I started this thread....I kept thinking "when did I post this?" and realized someone bumped an old thread ;-)

I've actually since started going to church on Sundays and I'm finding I'm very comfortable mixing a religious belief system with the adult entertainment industry. I mean, it's not like I make cigarettes that kill millions of people or alcohol that leads to a lot of deaths...

Do they know what you do? I have toyed with the idea but I admit to being slightly afraid of the reaction.

[Tom_PM]

I consider myself very spiritual, but not at all religious. Religions are human organizations first, above and beyond all other considerations. Dont be fooled. That in itself is a "false idol".

A more real example of hypocrisy IMHO is very religious people who also believe in the death penalty. Thou shalt not kill, dumbasses. On the one hand you believe that when you die you'll pass on to a higher realm. Even if you are standing at the pearly gates and are sent to purgatory or hell, you have ASCENDED to a higher plane of existence. Yet in your arrogant ignorance, you believe you can ignore the first fucking commandment because of some human law system. Life in prison without possibility of parole is much harder on a person than releasing them from life so they can pass on and be judged by God. What is considered by some to be the "harshest punishment" is the complete opposite, and the ultimate violation of your beliefs. Massive FAIL. Unless of course someone yanks a passage out of a book written 200 years after the facts to selectively justify their own actions. Gee that'd never happen with a CHURCH would it??? Goodness me! IMHO 100% of christian's should oppose the death penalty, no exeptions. Else be excommunicated. But dont worry, you can change your mind then go to confessional and be absolved and have a clean slate. Convenient guilt absolution too? It's one stop shopping!

How about giving us lowly humans some credit for the good AND bad that happens around us? You know when Elizabeth Smart was spotted walking down a road by a woman and a man in a car who called police... the father got on CNN and thanked......... GOD for returning his daughter to him through divine intervention. Really? I'd thank the woman and the man personally. Did he thank god that she was kidnapped, or blame some lowly humans? Was he pissed off at god when she went missing? Hows that work anyway? Well all I know is it was all part of gods plan, because managing our own lives is clearly too much for us. Thats all I'm allowed to know.

Then there were the religious leader morons, specifically Jerry Falwell, who said that God sent hurricane katrina to devastate the united states to punish us. Fuck you Jerry. It's called meteorology. You were a complete load. He also said we should "blow them off the face of the earth in the name of the lord" when he spoke about Islamic extremists. Now I know the bible is replete with violence inflicted by the lord on humans, but I think we lowly humans can figure out whats what and set it right without resorting to idiocy such as that. Why didnt you try to "feed the hungry in the name of the lord" while you were alive? Too busy sitting on your seat at your university? Huh.. isn't that something. Guess a hypocritical war monger needs a tax exempt status to "spread the word".. the word of division and violence against those who disagree. Oh and lets not forget the political endorsements! Cant forget those. Spread that word too, asshat.

Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you buddy. You should appreciate that indeed they also want to blow you away in the name of their lord. Make sense to anyone? Idiots like this did nothing but keep religion in the US in the 12th century for as long as they can. Why? Thats why we have a term: self righteous. If every person in the united states was christian, well thats 300 million compared to BILLIONS of bhuddists and BILLIONS of hindi! Arrogant fucks walking around all righteous thinking jesus has his hand directly up their ass making them talk shit. It's fucking retarded! True. Literal. Mental. Retardation!

So.. I'd call myself spiritual, but absolutely NOT religious..because these organizations of division are pretty much 100% full of shit.

Hows about you?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

I consider myself spiritual, but not religious....I'm a big believer in things like mother nature, forces of nature and even demons and angels, just not in the whole vengeful God sort of way....

I was talking to a friend yesterday and he said that it's weird I'm spiritual and in porn. That spirituality is the same as being a cross wearing Christian...sometimes I wonder who are the bigger kooks...hardcore religious people or hardcore anti-religious people? ;-)

religion is man's attempt to impress G_D, while spirituality is man's attempt to let G_D impress him. -bmb

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Do they know what you do? I have toyed with the idea but I admit to being slightly afraid of the reaction.

A couple of them do, including the head bishop. He actually invited me to have a little debate about sexual health and religion, but I turned it down for the fact that even though I am at peace with what I do and apparently so is this Bishop, other people simply aren't as accepting. I don't really want to be "outed" there at a place where one of my son's teachers attend.

I'm not about to leave porn for God nor vice versa. I think both beliefs can co-exist. What I find funny, is the guy sitting in the pew next to me could likely be the owner of a store that sells cigarettes and alcohol, yet he'd probably look down on me for what I do...

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

religion is man's attempt to impress G_D, while spirituality is man's attempt to let G_D impress him. -bmb

Nice quote!!

[nikki99]

of course you can be

[Brother Bilo]

I would think it would be difficult to be in porn and be a devoted christian or muslim. Just because of the beliefs both of them hold towards sex.

Personally, I like to believe in things like karma and the more you give the more you get kind of shit, but organized religion is what's bringing this whole world down and I'm not subscribing to it.

Being spiritual does not equal being religious.

[NosMo]

I don't see why not.

NosMo

[Xrated J]

you can do anything you want

[V_RocKs]

Yes... You can... I don't promote the extreme bullshit and I don't do it because I don't think it is OK.

[LiveDose]

I consider myself spiritual and I am a part of this industry.