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Old 10-03-2002, 06:54 PM   #1
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Serge: The story behind the tragedy

Okay Serge... for all of us newbs, let's hear it. Why are you such a great and wondrous icon of the adult Internet. Here's your shot to tell your story. I'm truly curious. No limits, if you wanna do a condensed version, great.... but feel free to tell us as much as you want.

I, for one am dying to hear it because I am a newb and I honestly don;t know the *Story of Serge*.... although I expect it is an impressive one.

Surely there is more to you than just being a stupid old washed up Netpond reject. So please.... tell us all about your great accomplishments and all the other wonderful things about "Serge" that we SHOULD know about.

Who knows.... maybe you'll convert me to a believer.
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Old 10-03-2002, 06:55 PM   #2
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i heard he was a russian cheater who made it big
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Old 10-03-2002, 06:58 PM   #4
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I'm being totally serious..... I never followed Netpond, so I'm not influenced by the past... I've never had any ties to the man..... I simply don't like him. Maybe this can shed some light on why, because I myself don't know the answer to that. All I know is he's a stupid, bitter, loud-mouthed old man that apparently MUST have some claim to fame.... he sure tries to sell that anyway.

So let's hear it Serge..... WHY should I consider you worthy of ANY respect? What the fuck have you done for me lately?
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i heard he was a russian cheater who made it big
not sure but I think that's the rumor 12clicks started..
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I agree with amp, i'm totally clueless as to who this serge guy is. I've heard rhumors, lets get some facts.
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IS there a story Serge? Or are you just a name dropper clinging to fading relationships?
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Serge is an ex KGB agent, and I am proud to call him my father(Yes, he really is my father. I am made of his sperm)
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Well, I certainly don't want to go down in the books as never having given the man a chance to speak his side of everything.... so I thought this would be a great way to address it and let him set all of us straight on just exactly who he really is. If there's some reason I should be giving him more respect, then I would like to know it so that I can.

So far I have no reason.
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He is a prick and 12clicks is a faggot and I think they are lovers. They bring their catfight to the boards.
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Serge was actually the first person to "fuck me over" with some gay traffic I sent him ;-))
Guess you could say he took my virginity.

I was crouched up in the shower for days after.
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Doesnt everyone?
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Come on Serge..... I'm being honest here. I really don't know your past. So I'd be very appreciative if you'd enlighten me. Accomplishments, successes, even failures if you're willing to share that. Let me know the man that is *Serge*. Perhaps I may even find some respect for you.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make a prediction....

I'm thinking that Serge probably won't entertain us with even a short synopsis of what he's about because he doesn't want to lose any psuedo-belief in him as some sort of Internet legend.

Whereas REAL people, legends or not, would simply state the facts and be done with it. Not Serge.... he's clinging to whatever is left... not much I expect....

I'm not embarrassed... I AM new to this biz.... I've been doing this for approximately a year and a half..... I make websites and have my fingers in a few other things as well. But I'm not important.... I'm nobody. I don't claim to be a legend or even important.

But I certainly am not going to cow to some blowhard like Serge just because he once had a name somewhere.... lol

I predict Serge is incapable of being quite so honest with himself, let alone us.
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he started out in fashion/modeling.

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I'm gonna hafta take Serge's non-response as an indicator that there IS no story. Which is what I gathered all along. Just another loudmouth has been that's trying to save what little reputation he has left.

Prove me wrong Serge.

I know nothing about you. Educate me.
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well, that speaks volumes.
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Brad Shaw phones in.

Brad: "You want to talk about the downfall of Serge? One day he woke up and all his clicks were gone. He was sending 90% of his traffic to Yishai and behind the site he was popping a consul. So he was really sending two hits for every one hit. And eventually Yishai smartened up to it.

"And on top of that, Serge was buying worse and worse traffic, from blind links, and his [conversion] ratios plunged... And Serge couldn't do anything with all his traffic because nobody wanted to buy it. So he started lowering what he was paying... So the people who were sending him traffic, decided to go straight to Yishai and deal with him directly. And it all came down on one night."

Lee: "I thought he retired voluntarily?"

Brad: "He claims he made $32 million in 1999 and I can believe it. He's brokering one to two million hits a day. Buying the traffic for three to four cents and selling it for six and seven cents. That's a lot of money."

Lee: "You don't think the FTC is going to come down on him?"

Brad: "I actually talked to the FTC last year. They were monitoring the Netpond board. Someone contacted me. And of course they've looked into [the Crescent Publishing] sites which promised 'Your credit card will not be billed'...

"People will talk about Serge and say anything bad about anyone, but people are afraid to say anything bad about Yishai."

Lee: "Why, do you think Yishai is going to put cement boots on us and drop us over the bridge?"

Brad: "When I was introduced to Yishai... The person who introduced me said, 'Don't ever say anything bad about this guy, Brad. He'll have you taken care of.' And he was dead serious."

Luke: "What do you know about Yishai?"

Brad: "I know how he runs his sites, which everyone knows. Obviously I feel that it is bad for our industry. But right now it is too late. The harm has already been done. The guy has made a fortune, $100 million, $200 million, $300 million, there's no telling. How the guy gets credit card accounts, I'll never know."

Lee: "You know they have this guy under investigation."

Brad: "Oh sure they do."

Lee: "Do you think Yishai's affiliated with organized crime?"

Brad: "I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole."

Lee: "I don't blame you. I think we all know that answer."
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AHH the regulars at GFY not having a CLUE who people are in the industry again..Im Shocked..LOLOL..if you have no sense of history little dicks you have no future.
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Sorry Serge.... did I break your rules by creating this thread? Have I overstepped my boundaries? Did I not play the way you would have preferred?

What you call *pissing*, I call LIFE. The days of BBS heros are fuckin' over big boy. If you got nothing to contribute to the adult biz society or even society in general, perhaps it's time you hung up the fuckin' keyboard old woman.

We are not amused by your ridiculous ranting about how you were wronged 4 years ago or whatever the fuck it was about. Like I said, this is a new age. You either adapt or get fucking eaten by the sharks. So unless you got something concrete that's going to change my opinion of you like some background history or maybe even some current usefulness, you're not fucking wanted. You are a useless piece of shit that is doing nothing more than consuming board database space.

And like I said, I'm nobody. I'm just a guy that makes websites for people. But at least I have a fucking purpose. Which is more than you can obviously say.

So until you got something more than the same old tired bullshit you glue into every single stinking post you make, why don't you JUST FUCKING SHUT UP.

We grow weary of you.
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you can fuck off too asshole.

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Sorry Serge.... did I break your rules by creating this thread? Have I overstepped my boundaries? Did I not play the way you would have preferred?

What you call *pissing*, I call LIFE. The days of BBS heros are fuckin' over big boy. If you got nothing to contribute to the adult biz society or even society in general, perhaps it's time you hung up the fuckin' keyboard old woman.

We are not amused by your ridiculous ranting about how you were wronged 4 years ago or whatever the fuck it was about. Like I said, this is a new age. You either adapt or get fucking eaten by the sharks. So unless you got something concrete that's going to change my opinion of you like some background history or maybe even some current usefulness, you're not fucking wanted. You are a useless piece of shit that is doing nothing more than consuming board database space.

And like I said, I'm nobody. I'm just a guy that makes websites for people. But at least I have a fucking purpose. Which is more than you can obviously say.

So until you got something more than the same old tired bullshit you glue into every single stinking post you make, why don't you JUST FUCKING SHUT UP.

We grow weary of you.
i am beginning to suspect that you really dont have a clue. i thought it was all an act - or sarcasm.
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i am beginning to suspect that you really dont have a clue. i thought it was all an act - or sarcasm.
nope... I said I was being honest. I truly would like to hear Serge's story.... but like I predicted, he won't tell it.
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you can fuck off too asshole.

more Serge zombies.
LOL...go amp your little dick;)
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only that its seemingly to small to find;)
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only that its seemingly to small to find;)
well... you must have been looking for it then....
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well... you must have been looking for it then....
no little man your smallness is evident in all you say and know;)
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oh I see.... well, please enlighten us to your bigness oh wise one.
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nope... I said I was being honest. I truly would like to hear Serge's story.... but like I predicted, he won't tell it.
what are you talking about? "he wont tell it"?

do you have specific knowledge that some guy is aware that you are trying to start shit with him and knows he has a few minutes to respond because he owes you some kind of explaination?

you cant present yourself as some kind of authority to which others need to respond to and plead ignorance at the same time.
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All I remember about Serge is that he ran a click brokerage...paid a few cents per click for traffic he resold at a higher price. I never understood why anyone would think that was a good deal when you could have a relationship directly with the sponsors and get the higher rate per click. The good, the bad, and the ugly was also around at the time and pretty much looked like it does now.

I also remember his site had a scan of a big check to prove he had money to pay out to people. If I could remember the url I'd go back and look at the Internet Archive and post a link.
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what are you talking about? "he wont tell it"?

do you have specific knowledge that some guy is aware that you are trying to start shit with him and knows he has a few minutes to respond because he owes you some kind of explaination?
as a matter of fact, I do..... I was posting one on one with the almighty Sergeness in the other thread when I started this one, and I even went and gave him a link to make him aware of it.... when he felt he was too important to post in this thread, I took it to his... and he quickly evaded everything there as well.

So shut the fuck up assmonkey.
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Old 10-03-2002, 11:08 PM   #49
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Is Yishai still in the biz ?
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Old 10-03-2002, 11:17 PM   #50
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Is Yishai still in the biz ?

he runs yakuza now,the japanese mafia

i'm not sure if he prepares an affialite program, maybe Flynn has more info on this
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