LOL I am a faggot---you the 1 with the fleshlight banner---is that all you get?

A lot of people are off topic here.

Question: Does GTS inflate the numbers?

Let this serve as a reminder to the likes of howard

Who do you think has a better idea of the traffic, the site owners or a 3rd party without access to server stats?

now we are getting to the mature part of the conversation:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Care to recall that thread with teenmegacash who it was that showed the alexa cache to state it wasn't TMC that ripped off GTS? I do stand up to people when they are wrong, yes. I just don't think GTS is wrong here but rather the site owners if infact their traffic numbers aren't correct.
WG

The site owners aren't selling anything, GTS are. The burden of proof is on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broker
WG

If I import laptops from a Chinese manufacturer and sell them to retail customers, quoting specs that I got from the manufacturer, who is to blame when it turns out it has an AMD processor instead of Intel as I have told my customers? I am, of course (even though I will have to sort things out with the manufacturer, but that's my problem, my customers never dealt with him).

Now, let's liken this metaphor a bit to the situation as it presents itself here. What would happen if I sold the laptops as if they were Dells (the manufacturer told me they are), but there's an HP logo on them? (Think Sextracker stats, complaining customers, etc)

Read better. From the same page: "A broker who also acts as a seller or as a buyer becomes a principal party to the deal. Distinguish agent: one who acts on behalf of a principal."

From what I understand some shit works and some shit does not.

People that think selling something shitty should get just as good numbers as something of quality need there money takin from them anyways.

Bump for mr korsakoff

Keep ignoring it. You are so cool when you do that.

Please leave this thread as you're only busy attacking me and fucking refuse the thing the things i said. Go take a piss in your pool please. You're annoying as fuck and as pathetic as it can get.

gts screwed me many years ago at webmaster access n LA. i looked for the proof on fubar - LA 2003 - and for some reason the photos were removed upon request.


me thinks it's a conspiricy

and you did it in as nice a way as possible and i dont think you said one thing bad about DH, if i remember right you pointed it more matter of fact.

What do you think about the FACT that Mark trashed TMC on SEVERAL other boards but on all those other boards he didn't bother to apologize or set the record straight? What does that make you think of his business or his character. To attack someone, threaten to ruin them, get them blacklisted from the internet, to get their ccbill processing removed... to throw their name and company out as scammers, and then when asshole finds out he is wrong he doesn't bother to make a post on all those other boards to set the record straight. What do you think of the way he handled that?

Imbecileboy, this is my last post where i respond to you unless you finally stop ignoring the real issues in this thread because im wasting way too much time your on idiotic replies.

What part about this don't you understand exactly?

Many of their spots/pass do not send enough traffic NO MATTER the thumb you're using, the descriptions you make or the gallery design or the sponsor to justify the costs.

Please answer me, what part does your tiny brain not understand about it? If you answer this i will explain it again to you. Once you get it then maybe you can stop fucking ignoring it like the little annoying kid you are and maybe say something about it. I know i know...i'm asking something insane here but who knows.

Howard for president :)

Cybercat was much better to deal with, A lot more friendly

thanks for sharing about GTS.

Why are you constantly replying twice to every single post I make?
Is this the way to get a high postcount?
It kind of contradicts when you say you are going to ignore me and then reply twice?

The part my tiny brain does not understand is how you can say that with paid spots it is impossible to make a profit where I and many others do.
The correct assumption would be that it is impossible for YOU to make a profit on them.
Can you follow that?

Can someone from GTS verify that the Celebrity Package 2 sites on submit passes get a combined traffic of 350k a day?? If they do I will buy.

I'm always amazed how celeb sites seem to convert well. (i never pushed it). Isnt all that content available all over the place? Google, forums, fan sites etc.

If i want to see a beyonce crotch shot i type in google images: beyonce crotch. Know what i mean?

I posted the fact, that's it. I'm not going to sit there and make an argument or tell other people what to do. That's up to them. I did see the comments posted on one other board and someone posted my gfy comments there as well so i didn't have to. Point is, I posted the fact and made it known that TMC was not the party that ripped them off. I'm not like you Will, I don't spend months and months campaigning against other people's businesses. I took 15 minutes out of my day to make the post and that was it. You will likely keep doing this for the next 12-18 months or until you find someone else to pick on. I don't play such games.
WG

Oh I know what ya mean, I don't care though as long as it converts just as good as other niches. What I want to know now though is if Submit Passes celebrity package has 350k traffic aday as it says. With 40k and 100k Alexa 350k sounds like way too much, but alexa can often be wrong....

Nicky, those sites dont get 350k, the #1 celebrity tgp site doesn't even get that.

Always had a feeling to not do business through gts for some reason..

Oh I know that :) I just want some GTS info about the traffic mentioned, I will buy a account if I like what I hear.

thanks for answering my question. So i take that as a " no comment" on what you think about DH and the way he handled the TMC matter on other boards.

I spend the same amount of time " campaiging against other people's businesses" as you do kissing their asses. You are wrong, you do play games, you play pin your lips on a bros ass when you post. You post here just as much as me. You try to be everyone's bro and never say anything to upset people, I call it like i see it. That's the only difference between us, its still the same "game".

and you will likely be kissing people's asses for the next 12-18 months...

Lol, aint that the truth. I neeeeeeeever take time out of my day trying to destroy or ruin someone elses business. I'm always too busy working on my own business. I guess some people out there are just born feeling it is their job to police the internet and other people's business practices. So much so, that they spend hours and hours, days and days trying to bring others down.

teh banhammer!

I don't try to piss people off because I'm not the type who wants to burn bridges with everyone in this business. And just because I don't support your causes is hardly kissing people's asses, but hey, do what works for you. I have better things to do than campaigning and forcing opinions down people's throats.
WG

lol becarefull you dont want to insult me, that would go against your beliefs.


I can count on 1 hand the people/companies that I think are total fucking scum and have shitty business practices. (ok maybe 2 hands :winkwink: ) Some are just total assholes others are assholes and steal money from all of us. For the ones stealing from us I point out what they are doing so other people can be made aware. You might want to call this " policing the internet" but I think it is being helpfull, a lot more so then making brown nosing posts are. For the ones who are acting like assholes, i will make post from time to time calling them assholes and reminding people they are shit.

I have forced no opinions down anyone's throat. I think everyone here can form their own opinions. They have you one hand saying the person is great, and I am saying they are shit for doing xyz. I think everyone is big boys and girls and they can read and decide for themselves.

Burning bridges? hell yeah. Like i said before when i find someone that has zero business ethics and / or steals from people, I will pour gas on the bridge and light the fucker on fire and make sure it burns to the ground. No amount of money will ever make me do business with a company like AFF for example. See that is one of the many things different between you and me, AFF can fuck you in the ass and you will say nice things about them online and if they pay you enough you will do business with them. Me on the other hand Lars could offer me $1,000,000 a signup and i would tell him to go fuck himself.

Not everyone has principles, most people are here to make money and they care less how they do it or who they work with. You never burn bridges because there are very few if any companies that you wouldnt do business with for the right price. We are just simply different people.

The other thing I only make factual posts, I don't post rumors or make posts for the fun of it. I don't start threads like Franck with " my friend got screwed by GTS" etc...

I have had NONE, ZERO, warnings or strikes from GFY mods, not 1 ever.

DH is an asshole, there are several examples of how he acts, none being any worse then the TMC ordeal. When i am on GFY and I see a post about DH from time to time I may pop in and remind new people about this. You may call this policing the internet. I don't give a fuck what you call it, I call it calling out an asshole for being an asshole.

the difference between me and DH is that he will make up lies and just pull shit out of the air, he has made several posts about me saying I pay my bills by working on cam, that i am broke, just a noob, that he will get no one to do business with me, etc... I don't see you giving him a hard time for making those types of posts about me. But instead you give me a hard time saying I am campaigning against companies and forcing my opinion down people's throats. So you reply to me this way for factual posts but you say nothing to DH for his made up lies and baseless attacks against me? Gee I wonder why...

Don't worry i don't take it personal I don't recall you supporting anyone's causes or any causes for all for that matter. :2 cents:

GTS is not a bad place to centralize submit passes, and their stats might be off, but it is up to every webmaster to do their own DUE DILIGENCE.

Dirty Frank if someone tells you the hun gets 2m a day traffic and wants $800 for a gallery link do you go check that stat yourself? OR NOT?

Interesting conversation here, I still want some facts for my 350k question. It clearly says on submit passes site that their celebrity package sports 350k daily traffic, if it does (which I doubt) I'm buying a account right away, I just need facts first....

I agree with you on these points, we're rather opposites when it comes down to this.
WG

I do have to admit that is true and is definitely better than most people who start drama.
WG

oh come on... call me an asshole, you know you want to :winkwink:

i promise it will make you feel better :)