Yeah over inflated ego DH seems to think he buys and sells people around here. He has " Franks number" and he made a comment a while back he would make sure no one did business with me. DH has the pull of an ant but the an ego the size of an elephant. Not 1 person has ever not done business with me because of that fucking moron. But he probably thinks he owns me too :1orglaugh

lol that is all WG does. He has never said one thing bad about anyone, including AFF. Someone could probably rip the guy off and he would make a post defending them or saying how they ripped him off in a nice way.

All buyed TGP traffic sucks!

Buying PA is something else but buying TGP traffic is bad job!

I don't like Dirty F but he's right.

i wonder if there is a direct correlation to that and the amount of money he makes per annum. :2 cents:

I personally think gts is brilliant. They got together a bunch of sites and sell traffic to you fools, and are making bank off of traffic they can't convert themselves.

Think about it, if the traffic was really amazing like they say couldn't they make more money off of it themselves.

Brilliant I tell you. They turned something that was FREE into a paid enterprise. Love the paid gallery spot idea. Oversell the shit out of them and say you may get a spot every few days.

Seriously, I wish I would have thought of it myself.

There are suckers born every minute, and most of them post on GFY:1orglaugh

i would say no since I likely make more than him and I tell people exactly what i think about them, which 95% of the time is on target and what they deserve, instead of kissing ass and not wanting to upset anyone.

jesus, don't inflate DH's ego any more than it is or he might not be able to drive down the highway without causing traffic jams.

Don't give GTS too much credit, you make it sound like they were the first to create the " traffic broker " idea and impliment it online. I doubt they were the first to think this up, how long has cybercat been around or choker ?

Cybercat actually had some of the largest sites on the net, and choker is a whole different ball game. GTS took shit sites and had fools lined up to buy the shit traffic.

I have a few PA's bought at GTS, traffic is low - average.

Most of my gals are not listed and sometimes it just point to another trade.

It seems GTS service is a wall for site owners who love doing the above and not having to explain it to the submitters :2 cents:

im guessing your making some good money with referralmatrix actually, i was discussing the scalability of it with an SEM two days ago.

my point however is this, positive thoughts net positive results .. perhaps you do make more than charles, not what I was saying, but for some people getting drudged down in the drama can really affect their productivity.

but thats just my thoughts :pimp

Will

which traffic provider do you think is worth a try nowadays?

Trafficholder is worst taffic source I ever try!

Can we buy Frank off with a free submit account ;)

No these ones:

http://www.video-post.com/thumbview/

Are you sure you ever visited video-post?

Come on, don't be a fool. They sell for many sites without thumb previews. I totally understand your thumb thing, i've been here for a while remember but that has nothing to do with what i'm saying here. Many sites can not send enough traffic to your galleries period. Sites with text links and EVEN sites with thumb links believe it or not.

http://www.rockabilly-rules.com/rock...kisser_gum.jpg

Make sure you get your beers at the show next time you see your best friend Mark. If you can remove his cock from your mouth that is.

Disgusting seeing people like you who fucking know i'm right and fucking know what scum Mark is but it's for some reason more important to have your cock in his ass. There's a bunch of those cockroaches in this thread and you are one of them.

And yeah, he's getting SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much new business from this thread because everyone who reads all the fine comments about his product can't wait to send him his money. Dumb fucking asskissing moron. Be real proud of yourself. True character.

I like Wiredguy but threads like this show he has no backbone whatsoever. Mark is on his "can't do wrong" list. And it's digusting. Mark can murder a random person tomorrow for fun and Charles will defend him blindly and say something like "well, we don't know the whole story, maybe that guy deserved it because he looked funny at Mark" while he knows Mark is wrong in every way possible.

Defending your friends is a good thing but admitting they are wrong when they actually are wrong is even better.

Its the same effect with text links! Some niches sell better on some mgps...and get more clicks as well.

You may have been there for a while but you have been busy trolling people instead of analysing sales. Thats why you are still down there and I can a dive in my swimmingpool in Curacou right now. Have fun! *splash*

Wow, you're so cool man with your swimming pool. I wish i could be more like you. Ive i paid more attention to those text links i could be pimp like you now. Stupid me.

100 cool dudes with swimming pools!

Youre a fucking clown with 1 reason why you are in this thread and that is to attack me. You think i'm talking about 1 spot on 1 day? Maybe, just maybe i tried a LOT of passes and spots there in the past. Maybe i'm talking from experience when i say many spots there don't get enough traffic to justify the costs. Ever thought about that or did you get too much water in your brain from being soooooooooo fucking cool in your swimming pool?
Nah, you ignore it and find something else to attack me with.

Why don't you attack Mark for the fact that he sells spots on sites that skim the fuck out of their traffic. Isnt that more important than attacking me out of the blue?

Or does your asskissing guide tell you not to do that?

TGP banner traffic is worthless one way or another.Gallery submitting can bring money but banners nooooooo

Try to read what I am saying.
I have not looked at your galls in a while but I think you might still be submitting teen galls everywhere. Teen work on some and not on others.
I am not going to tell you which niches work on which mgp. You will have to use trial and error. Like the other people did. How many times do I have to tell you this through get through to your thick skull.

I get the impression I hurt your ego. Get over it and learn from what I am saying here. It might increase your income.

BTW I still love you and support your freedom of speach. Does that help?

I thought you were at you swimming pool .... SPLASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:1orglaugh

Teens? Well, i havent submitted galleries in months but when i did Teen was maybe 5% of my galleries. You don't have to tell me about niches and mgp's dude. I'm not sure where you keep getting the idea that i'm new to this.

Sorry but your attacks are based on nothing. Or you are confusing me with someone else.

And why do you KEEP ON FUCKING IGNORING what i said 10 times to you now:

Many of the spots or passes they sell simply don't send enough traffic. No matter what thumb, niche, link whatever.

You havent said a single word about this. You refuse to for some reason. And it's all i'm trying to say. This whole thread is based on that fact.

For some reason i have the feeling you will ignore this once again and come up with another random attack.

Me: Many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit. No matter what description, niche, thumb, gallery, sponsor.

PornoPat: You submit the wrong thumbs

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

PornoPat: You don't know how things work man, your descriptions suck.

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

PornoPat: You should learn how to design because you suck at galleries

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

PornoPat: You use the wrong sponsors

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

Etc.

First of all I know a couple GTS guys from seeing them at shows. I have never done business with them. And I kiss no ones ass in the world.

I am going to try and treat you as an adult with a brain and 1 that actually has the power of common sense.

I have been doing traffic deals since 1998. IN matter of fact some people tend to think I happen to be pretty good at this.

To make it in this industry in sales you have to good by people and earn trust. There is 0 MONEY to made in quich shit deals if you want to stay in this biz awhile.

Prices for all traffic should be based upon "the heshy formula". That is if we as salespeople have a customer that keeps repeat buying at a certain price---thats the price its worth. Anyone who complains at that price --IM SORRY--but its your fault. It's up to you the buyer to make the most out of the traffic you purchase.

My way of dealing with a fucken pussy like you would be to give an extension and then you lose the right to do business with me anymore. I have people waiting in line to buy what ever deals I can furnish and the 1st thing I learned in this industry is to dump losers like you.

You sound like a typical sales nitwit. Read the thread again to allow your limited mental resources to slowly absorb the idea.

for from typical perkerhead

That is all you had to say.

You meant peckerhead? Hahaha, you idiot.

not in my opinion. I think its ruthless to come to a public forum and rip someones buisness. They have been in business awhile and have a great reputation from the big money buyers I know. Therefore I disagree with your opinion and I have never made 1 penny from GTS in my life

Far from an idiot---sometimes a moron ---but yes I did mean to say that you are a PECKERHEAD

But its no problem to screw people over. Because they bought you beers at a convention. Dumb fuck.

Howard, you are truly an imbecile.

Noone with an iq above 70 can deny that selling passes with which its impossible to make money back to name something or selling spots and "forget" to tell that site skims 40% of their traffic is fucking wrong. Yet imbeciles like you close their eyes and ears and ignore it and come in threads like this to kiss some ass and make sure they get some beers at the next convention.

People like you make me sick.

LOL...nah sorry.....if it was it was me doing the buying....

They didn't screw you over...You probably gave them the worst creative in the world that couldn't load or was so bad people just looked at it and SAID oh no dirty F must and paid for this advertisng so we cant join....we have to fuck Dirty F, he is the biggest loser have no life cock sucking live on gfy life


come on man---grow up--sometimes you win sometimes you lose

YOUR A FUCKEN CRYBABY---maybe you should go gay dude....

Keep ignoring everything i said in this thread. It makes you look real smart. Just like PornoPat. Ignore ignore ignore. Just hear what you wanna hear and ignore the rest. And kiss some ass in the meantime. Faggot.

na na na boo boo