Don't even start with me, you don't even work in this industry anymore do you? Last time I heard you ran off for "mainstream" because it was so much more profitable. Yeah right... You just hang out here for the "sport" right? Sleazydream wannabe motherfucker. Sleazy has 100x more class then your un-origional ass.

Should I post screenshots of our ICQ conversation where you tried to extort P2PADS of our popup technology. Maybe you forgot about that, I didn't...

Keep going fucktard, I have your number.

DH

Fank, where are you getting these stats out of Sex Tracker?
Because their ranking shows your numbers are WILDLY inaccurate.
I'm going to tell you what I tell a lot of my customers, for updated statistics please visit this page http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...se&pg=0-0.html

I might bring your attention to the video post site you underestimated by half, and the Ampland site that you underestimated by about the same!!!

Good thread unlike the "what are you doing right now" bullshit that pervades here.

Exactly... I doubt these sites are going by their Sextracker stats and going by the inhouse numbers that they're reporting to GTS to publish. If they're lying, then its the site owner who's skewing the numbers and not GTS. GTS is just a middle man, they broker the sales, you really need to hold the site owners accountable and not the broker here...
WG

WiredGuy, we are talking about Franck here. Someone with a vendetta.

Trying to talk sense into Franck is like trying to teach a rock to play backgammon... Won't happen. :upsidedow

FACT IS many sites have still the amount of uniques listed next to them that they got a year or 2 years ago. They, for obvious reasons never bothered to change it. Thats a shit way to do business.

I got them directly from that page 2 mins before i made this post.

Thats why after i mentioned on gfy that they showed the same numbers as a year earlier for videopost they changed it a few days later and dropped the price.

Right Charles? They did that because i was wrong?

Just keep on:

http://bohemianprose.files.wordpress.../3-monkeys.jpg

ATX stats suck.

They count evey page reload as a "hit".

You can not figure out Unique visitors from ATX stats.

'they' as in gts or 'they' as in the site owners? I get the impression the burden here is on the site owners to update the numbers, not gts.
WG

50 GTS haters

Ever notice how the hate threads like this are always started on the weekends.

The weekend warriors are too busy with their shitty little dayjobs during the week to do this then, so they wait until the weekend when they get to play webmaster to start shit.

Get a life Franck, seriously.

Nice thread!
I haven't been using GTS lately because of the new payment system and that they never authorize my requests to add them on icq so I can figure out a way to give them my cc info. But I've used them in the past, and there was many sites I didn't make my money back with. I'm not going to namedrop them since it was a while ago.
I wish everybody could do like pichunter and tommys bookmarks and let us buy a lifetime pass but greed would put a stop to that I guess..

Yeah good one idiot. I only post here in the weekends because of my dayjob :1orglaugh

I see, since they hadn't updated in hours, the numbers shouldn't have doubled between time then. So again, since the numbers you quoted vary wildly from the numbers sex tracker is reporting (and since two of those sites don't even appear on the page) where are you getting these numbers?

In all honesty, they could have been their pre-tube site stats.

edit....

Do you have troubles reading?

I got them directly from that page 2 mins before i made this post.

Don't ask me why they suddenly changed, i have no fucking clue and i'd like to know it as well.

If you think that i would lie and make up shit just to start this thread you're very wrong.

And maybe 2 of them don't appear there because they are suddenly made private.

CC information is handled through billing
[email protected] would be more than happy to help you with that.

No troubles reading here frank, Madthumbs wasn't on that page yesterday when I checked it either, and since that page updated at 1700 and 1900 GMT nothing changed between the start of the thread.

That's kinda my take on it as well. I've bought a submit pass there before. It's deceptive advertising, because 1. Your gallery needs to be approved first. 2. They don't tell you where your gallery will end up when it is approved (go look for it and you'll be surprised) 3. Your gallery will mostly likely end up in a low traffic area when it finally shows up and 4. If they get a lot of approved galleries/partner accounts, your pushed off the main page after 4-6 hours anyways and the next approval process doesn't begin until the next day.

I haven't bought one since, of course - there are better ways to generate revenue.

You frequently lie...so one can expect that you are lying now...now can't one?

Yea my ATX stats show about 2x the actual traffic.

Is there a way to do this without a fax machine?
I've mailed in the past and gotten no answer. I don't remember which adress I mailed.
my icq is 41003014

Sorry you didn't get an answer, I know a lot of us in the company have to use spam filters. Perhaps it wasn't received due to this.
As far as doing it without a fax machine, yes. You can fill it out, scan it and email or ICQ transfer it to billing and that will work just as well.
I'm not on my work machine right now, but if you contact me on monday (email or icq in my sig) I can make sure you get set up!

Hi Geirlur, sorry to hear you didn't get a response. I have spamarrest on my e-mail and I frequently get icq spams (i don't know if you get those german requests but i get 1-2 daily). I don't recall ever getting a message from you but sorry regardless. We do accept epassporte again, I don't know if that is any help to you?

DH

Really?
I'll hit you up when sober ;)

Skimming paid gallery spots is theft. Could you post an example please, i have to see it to believe it.

You think GTS is doing something different than others? of course the good spots are harder to get.

Now that is where your reasoning goes wrong. Some niches work better with certain mgp's. To give a very clear example : A thumb of a teenie will get you very little clicks at a site like mature-post.
Every site has their fanbase of bookmarkers and google traffic (this is the quality traffic you should be after). The bookmarkers have their preferences en the google traffic is looking for something specific. You will see this back in sales AND the amount of traffic that goes to a gallery.

I do both by the way. Paid spots and submitpasses. I make a nice profit on both and I know more people that do. These people know what they do.

http://www.video-post.com/main.html

These thumbs you mean?

http://www.madthumbs.com/

I don't think its theft if its clearly mentioned before you buy it.

submit passes have done ok for us.

Certain people definitely make their money back on GTS but many obviously do not. I do not like the whole GTS system at all. I would prefer buying my spots directly from the site owners and cutting out the middle man but that won't happen. Thus I do not care if they rip off people, because it is not my money they take. I never bought something from GTS and never will. Maybe I could make some nice ROI but I am just not interested in supporting a system (paid submit passes) that I do not like at all. Of course nobody cares about my opinion and people from GTS will tell me to STFU if I do not do business with them and have nothing to do with them at all ;)

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I always got good results from gts services

WG , STOP it:mad: Common sense interferes in a good drama:Oh crap

Frank I use sextracker and it always shows me a lower uv per day compared to extreme tracker and hitstats for some reason It might be because they count unique hits in a differernt time frame to the other trackers They only count users IPs who have never visited the site before or do not return to the site within 24 hours.

you have his number???? one of my companies tried your fucking traffic for a while and guess what - no results - didn't even cover 1/2 of what was paid for.... anyways have fun with the newbies - thats your bread and butter

- GTS are crooks;
- Franck is one of the few persons in this thread with a sense of sense;
- WG, stop asskissing, you're better than that. No, the burden is on GTS, as they are selling the spots.

drama is a flyin