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S P A N N O W · 01-17-2008, 11:27 PM

Ok, so your sales may be sliding thanks (possibly) in part to the free tube-type sites and/or torrents - fine. DVDs days are numbered due to the onset of VOD online. This begs the question, what's next?

I have some ideas but am interested in your thoughts. So let's have it...

RedShoe · 01-17-2008, 11:32 PM

virtual porn involving 3D glasses, and digitally controlled pocket pussies?

Xrated J · 01-17-2008, 11:33 PM

i think redshoe may be on to some thing

RedShoe · 01-17-2008, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yonnie Gogolack

i think redshoe may be on to some thing

It was a joke, that technology has been out for years. It just hasn't quite found it's market.

ARS Bryan · 01-17-2008, 11:37 PM

Models working for free and all porn 100% free is the future!

Xrated J · 01-17-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe

It was a joke, that technology has been out for years. It just hasn't quite found it's market.

you must have missed my sarcasim

StuBradley · 01-17-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARS Bryan

Models working for free...

RedShoe · 01-17-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yonnie Gogolack

you must have missed my sarcasim

sorry,

sarcasm always gets lost in translation.

RedShoe · 01-17-2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARS Bryan

Models working for free and all porn 100% free is the future!

Future?
You mean the present. People fucking at home, filming it and uploading to tube sites, to show for free... is actually happening.

pocketkangaroo · 01-17-2008, 11:51 PM

I think the paid porn turns into a per scene marketplace. Just as people aren't buying full albums anymore, they're buying individual songs. People will now buy scenes instead of full sites. Exclusive high quality content will be what sells. Stuff in HD with good plotlines and good camerawork.

The older, generic, content that has been around for years and is seen on hundreds of sites will go almost completely free. Sites will offer free admission, let them view all the free movies they want, and make their money on upsells to the higher quality content, cams, dating, toys, and other products.

Essentially, paysites as we know it will continue to die a slow death. Smaller programs will get bought out, major consolidation will take place, and in the end you'll have a handful of big companies that cater to this leftover market and will still be succesful. They'll utilize a lot of this members area traffic to promote other ventures such as cams, VOD, and dating.

On the other hand, I think live cams, live shows, etc will benefit greatly. Companies will step in and have pornstars do live shoots. They'll allow users to vote on themes, outfits, and sex acts. Events will be scheduled, similar to how PPV works on TV. Users will be promoted to sign up and watch a specific gangbang or a specific girl do her first anal scene live. The live facet will bring a new dimension and a market that can't resist plugging in their credit cards. You may also see these shows go free and the promoters make their money on ads around the video or during the show during breaks.

We'll also see more amateurs becoming succesful. We've seen it happen with Tila Tequila, LonelyGirl15, etc. It will happen more in the adult industry. Technology has advanced to the point where the average girl can afford good cameras and video equipment. You'll see a shift from the "canned solo girl" site where the girl isn't involved back to an amateur who actually runs her site. A girl who does cam shows for money, produces a lot of free content, and makes her money from donations, private shows, private shoots, and other advertising. It's a reality based society and the adult industry will have to shift to that audience.

Just my thoughts. :-)

96ukssob · 01-17-2008, 11:56 PM

virtual reality. your fleshlight has a plug that goes into your USB port and as you use it, makes gagging sounds. then when your done if you dont unplug it, it bitches to you and wants new shoes

L-Pink · 01-18-2008, 12:15 AM

Actually what I'm afraid is going to happen is something drastic. Some senator is going to say ... look at the porn everywhere on the net, some of it extreme, we need to crack down harder than we have because obviously our current laws aren't working.

And if you look at the tube/torrent sites with basically wide open members areas stolen from various sites the current laws aren't working. There are more teens, more pissing, shitting, etc, absolutely no paperwork, no attempt to screen under 18 viewers or models ....

S P A N N O W · 01-18-2008, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I think the paid porn turns into a per scene marketplace. Just as people aren't buying full albums anymore, they're buying individual songs. People will now buy scenes instead of full sites. Exclusive high quality content will be what sells. Stuff in HD with good plotlines and good camerawork.

The older, generic, content that has been around for years and is seen on hundreds of sites will go almost completely free. Sites will offer free admission, let them view all the free movies they want, and make their money on upsells to the higher quality content, cams, dating, toys, and other products.

Essentially, paysites as we know it will continue to die a slow death. Smaller programs will get bought out, major consolidation will take place, and in the end you'll have a handful of big companies that cater to this leftover market and will still be succesful. They'll utilize a lot of this members area traffic to promote other ventures such as cams, VOD, and dating.

On the other hand, I think live cams, live shows, etc will benefit greatly. Companies will step in and have pornstars do live shoots. They'll allow users to vote on themes, outfits, and sex acts. Events will be scheduled, similar to how PPV works on TV. Users will be promoted to sign up and watch a specific gangbang or a specific girl do her first anal scene live. The live facet will bring a new dimension and a market that can't resist plugging in their credit cards. You may also see these shows go free and the promoters make their money on ads around the video or during the show during breaks.

We'll also see more amateurs becoming succesful. We've seen it happen with Tila Tequila, LonelyGirl15, etc. It will happen more in the adult industry. Technology has advanced to the point where the average girl can afford good cameras and video equipment. You'll see a shift from the "canned solo girl" site where the girl isn't involved back to an amateur who actually runs her site. A girl who does cam shows for money, produces a lot of free content, and makes her money from donations, private shows, private shoots, and other advertising. It's a reality based society and the adult industry will have to shift to that audience.

Just my thoughts. :-)

Very interesting.

deanberkeley · 01-18-2008, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I think the paid porn turns into a per scene marketplace. Just as people aren't buying full albums anymore, they're buying individual songs. People will now buy scenes instead of full sites. Exclusive high quality content will be what sells. Stuff in HD with good plotlines and good camerawork.

The older, generic, content that has been around for years and is seen on hundreds of sites will go almost completely free. Sites will offer free admission, let them view all the free movies they want, and make their money on upsells to the higher quality content, cams, dating, toys, and other products.

Essentially, paysites as we know it will continue to die a slow death. Smaller programs will get bought out, major consolidation will take place, and in the end you'll have a handful of big companies that cater to this leftover market and will still be succesful. They'll utilize a lot of this members area traffic to promote other ventures such as cams, VOD, and dating.

On the other hand, I think live cams, live shows, etc will benefit greatly. Companies will step in and have pornstars do live shoots. They'll allow users to vote on themes, outfits, and sex acts. Events will be scheduled, similar to how PPV works on TV. Users will be promoted to sign up and watch a specific gangbang or a specific girl do her first anal scene live. The live facet will bring a new dimension and a market that can't resist plugging in their credit cards. You may also see these shows go free and the promoters make their money on ads around the video or during the show during breaks.

We'll also see more amateurs becoming succesful. We've seen it happen with Tila Tequila, LonelyGirl15, etc. It will happen more in the adult industry. Technology has advanced to the point where the average girl can afford good cameras and video equipment. You'll see a shift from the "canned solo girl" site where the girl isn't involved back to an amateur who actually runs her site. A girl who does cam shows for money, produces a lot of free content, and makes her money from donations, private shows, private shoots, and other advertising. It's a reality based society and the adult industry will have to shift to that audience.

Just my thoughts. :-)

Great post! Thread bookmarked!

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Danny B · 01-18-2008, 02:56 AM

With all the tube and torrent sites being around, a site needs more than just a lot of content.
You have to offer something the surfer can't get from the tube or torrent sites.

Cams, interaction, updates, exclusivity, fun, reality, amateurs.
These are my 2008 pointers. We trying to combine all these in one project and so far it's looking really good.

pocketkangaroo has some very good points with the liveshows and requests.
You need retention. So your surfer must have something to come back to.
And since your exclusively shot movies end up on torrents and tube sites in a matter of days, you either need to update ALL THE FUCKING TIME or offer something else/more.

Camshows, interaction with the models, polls, a forum, and so on.

It is important to surf the web from a surfers POV every now and then.
Set some targets: Need porn now. And see where it takes you. It's just scary

And keep an eye on the things that are hard to find. Those are your opportunities....

pocketkangaroo · 01-18-2008, 06:41 PM

Such an important business thread should not be so far down. Bump!

DatingGold · 01-18-2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S P A N N O W

Ok, so your sales may be sliding thanks (possibly) in part to the free tube-type sites and/or torrents - fine. DVDs days are numbered due to the onset of VOD online. This begs the question, what's next?

I have some ideas but am interested in your thoughts. So let's have it...

dating and live cams... www.datinggold.com lol

how are you and belinda?

S P A N N O W · 01-18-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny B

With all the tube and torrent sites being around, a site needs more than just a lot of content.
You have to offer something the surfer can't get from the tube or torrent sites.

Cams, interaction, updates, exclusivity, fun, reality, amateurs.
These are my 2008 pointers. We trying to combine all these in one project and so far it's looking really good.

pocketkangaroo has some very good points with the liveshows and requests.
You need retention. So your surfer must have something to come back to.
And since your exclusively shot movies end up on torrents and tube sites in a matter of days, you either need to update ALL THE FUCKING TIME or offer something else/more.

Camshows, interaction with the models, polls, a forum, and so on.

It is important to surf the web from a surfers POV every now and then.
Set some targets: Need porn now. And see where it takes you. It's just scary

And keep an eye on the things that are hard to find. Those are your opportunities....

Another very interesting post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold

dating and live cams... www.datinggold.com lol

how are you and belinda?

Touché! On top of the world, how about you two?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-18-2008, 08:20 PM

The next big thing is the same ol thing.

The key is monitization of content.
Are you one of the guys that blow out all the content or one of the guys that know the value of content?

Pick a side and there is the future.

CurrentlySober · 01-18-2008, 08:25 PM

AlienQ invented the next big thing...

Bump!

itto · 01-18-2008, 08:36 PM

since free porn is taking over you gotta monetize it somehow..
i can see mainstream companies buying "ad space" in free porn clips, e.g. people fucking in front of a pepsi vending machine or whatever..

but fuck i'm drunk, perhaps this is all complete utter bullshit.

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I think the paid porn turns into a per scene marketplace. Just as people aren't buying full albums anymore, they're buying individual songs. People will now buy scenes instead of full sites. Exclusive high quality content will be what sells. Stuff in HD with good plotlines and good camerawork. The older, generic, content that has been around for years and is seen on hundreds of sites will go almost completely free. Sites will offer free admission, let them view all the free movies they want, and make their money on upsells to the higher quality content, cams, dating, toys, and other products. Essentially, paysites as we know it will continue to die a slow death. Smaller programs will get bought out, major consolidation will take place, and in the end you'll have a handful of big companies that cater to this leftover market and will still be succesful. They'll utilize a lot of this members area traffic to promote other ventures such as cams, VOD, and dating. On the other hand, I think live cams, live shows, etc will benefit greatly. Companies will step in and have pornstars do live shoots. They'll allow users to vote on themes, outfits, and sex acts. Events will be scheduled, similar to how PPV works on TV. Users will be promoted to sign up and watch a specific gangbang or a specific girl do her first anal scene live. The live facet will bring a new dimension and a market that can't resist plugging in their credit cards. You may also see these shows go free and the promoters make their money on ads around the video or during the show during breaks. We'll also see more amateurs becoming succesful. We've seen it happen with Tila Tequila, LonelyGirl15, etc. It will happen more in the adult industry. Technology has advanced to the point where the average girl can afford good cameras and video equipment. You'll see a shift from the "canned solo girl" site where the girl isn't involved back to an amateur who actually runs her site. A girl who does cam shows for money, produces a lot of free content, and makes her money from donations, private shows, private shoots, and other advertising. It's a reality based society and the adult industry will have to shift to that audience. Just my thoughts. :-)

01-18-2008, 12:15 AM	#12
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Actually what I'm afraid is going to happen is something drastic. Some senator is going to say ... look at the porn everywhere on the net, some of it extreme, we need to crack down harder than we have because obviously our current laws aren't working. And if you look at the tube/torrent sites with basically wide open members areas stolen from various sites the current laws aren't working. There are more teens, more pissing, shitting, etc, absolutely no paperwork, no attempt to screen under 18 viewers or models ....

01-18-2008, 02:56 AM	#16
Danny B Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,423	With all the tube and torrent sites being around, a site needs more than just a lot of content. You have to offer something the surfer can't get from the tube or torrent sites. Cams, interaction, updates, exclusivity, fun, reality, amateurs. These are my 2008 pointers. We trying to combine all these in one project and so far it's looking really good. pocketkangaroo has some very good points with the liveshows and requests. You need retention. So your surfer must have something to come back to. And since your exclusively shot movies end up on torrents and tube sites in a matter of days, you either need to update ALL THE FUCKING TIME or offer something else/more. Camshows, interaction with the models, polls, a forum, and so on. It is important to surf the web from a surfers POV every now and then. Set some targets: Need porn now. And see where it takes you. It's just scary And keep an eye on the things that are hard to find. Those are your opportunities.... __________________ Danny B ICQ: 407485488 SKYPE: DAN-DEVELOPMENT

01-18-2008, 06:41 PM	#17
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Such an important business thread should not be so far down. Bump!

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01-18-2008, 08:36 PM	#22
itto Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: world wide Posts: 1,363	since free porn is taking over you gotta monetize it somehow.. i can see mainstream companies buying "ad space" in free porn clips, e.g. people fucking in front of a pepsi vending machine or whatever.. but fuck i'm drunk, perhaps this is all complete utter bullshit.