How 'Hard sell' would you like hosted gals to be? - GoFuckYourself.com

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 08:12 AM

I noticed that a lot of hosted gals are getting very hard sell....

Do you think thats a good thing - how far would you allow sponsors to go before you stopped listing them?

Damian_Maxcash

Lycanthrope · 01-16-2008, 08:35 AM

The purpose of using hosted galleries is for that particular TGP owner to generate sales so by all means sell the shit out of your product.

I've seen too many hosted galleries that basically do the opposite and do too little to sell and maybe have one little link through to the site... that's pretty much useless.

I understand why TGPS that sell spots (and even those that take free submissions) have their own rules and limit submitters outgoing gallery links - so if you want your shit listed there, follow their rules, but hosted galleries are or at least should be a whole different animal.

It would be nice if sponsors took control of their content again. I'm not saying you should use blind links or even a bunch of un-linked thumbs, but the content to link through ratio is, IMHO, way to high.

Give them things to click on, along with a reason to, and by golly they just might.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

The purpose of using hosted galleries is for that particular TGP owner to generate sales so by all means sell the shit out of your product.

I've seen too many hosted galleries that basically do the opposite and do too little to sell and maybe have one little link through to the site... that's pretty much useless.

I understand why TGPS that sell spots (and even those that take free submissions) have their own rules and limit submitters outgoing gallery links - so if you want your shit listed there, follow their rules, but hosted galleries are or at least should be a whole different animal.

It would be nice if sponsors took control of their content again. I'm not saying you should use blind links or even a bunch of un-linked thumbs, but the content to link through ratio is, IMHO, way to high.

Give them things to click on, along with a reason to, and by golly they just might.

Nice answer - Thanks

And I agree

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 09:52 AM

Any more opinions on this.....

1off · 01-16-2008, 10:36 AM

I've said this 100 times ( see sig

) but Lycanthorpe said it perfectly. I agree 100%

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1off

I've said this 100 times ( see sig

) but Lycanthorpe said it perfectly. I agree 100%

Thanks

How does everyone else like this style of gals - Have a look at the sig above?

I like them...

1off · 01-16-2008, 01:53 PM

Maybe if the thread had [PIC] in the title..

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1off

Maybe if the thread had [PIC] in the title..

lol - I knew there was something I forgot....

Diligent · 01-16-2008, 03:51 PM

Yup, that's the way I like 'em too - as aggressive selling as possible (no popunders loading dialer though, lol..)

I've actually personally, and recently, seen one of MC's aggressive FHG perform a *lot* better than the "cookie cutter" galleries that goes up on regular TGP's...

I'm was working with SE traffic there, and as I've mentioned to Sarah I got the first sale after less than 10 uniques from just starting sending to it..
and notice this.. those uniques were *to the gallery*

Such things can happen if they're layedout aggressively and used with better traffic than skimmed TGP's etc.

So

to aggressive selling

Goes

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diligent

Yup, that's the way I like 'em too - as aggressive selling as possible (no popunders loading dialer though, lol..)

I've actually personally, and recently, seen one of MC's aggressive FHG perform a *lot* better than the "cookie cutter" galleries that goes up on regular TGP's...

I'm was working with SE traffic there, and as I've mentioned to Sarah I got the first sale after less than 10 uniques from just starting sending to it..
and notice this.. those uniques were *to the gallery*

Such things can happen if they're layedout aggressively and used with better traffic than skimmed TGP's etc.

So

to aggressive selling

Goes

Wow - thats great to hear!

2012 · 01-16-2008, 10:43 PM

if it's hard you probly have a better chance at sale, ... no ?

Damian_Maxcash · 01-16-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

if it's hard you probly have a better chance at sale, ... no ?

Thats the plan - but how hard is too hard for FHG TGP owners - I could put up copies of my tours with different vids.... is that ok?

There must be a line - I am just trying to find out where it is

BV · 01-16-2008, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

The purpose of using hosted galleries is for that particular TGP owner to generate sales so by all means sell the shit out of your product.

I've seen too many hosted galleries that basically do the opposite and do too little to sell and maybe have one little link through to the site... that's pretty much useless.

I understand why TGPS that sell spots (and even those that take free submissions) have their own rules and limit submitters outgoing gallery links - so if you want your shit listed there, follow their rules, but hosted galleries are or at least should be a whole different animal.

It would be nice if sponsors took control of their content again. I'm not saying you should use blind links or even a bunch of un-linked thumbs, but the content to link through ratio is, IMHO, way to high.

Give them things to click on, along with a reason to, and by golly they just might.

Amen

I've practised and preached this since 2000-2001 when FHG's 1st became popular. You carry the torch for a while.

Cheers,
BV

2012 · 01-17-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Thats the plan - but how hard is too hard for FHG TGP owners - I could put up copies of my tours with different vids.... is that ok?

There must be a line - I am just trying to find out where it is

i was just fucking around...

i do remember a guy along time ago telling me . "use the pictures where they are looking at you" ... been trying to work on that

- you know your traffic better then anyone, or try to at least ..

Damian_Maxcash · 01-17-2008, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

use the pictures where they are looking at you

That is GREAT advice!

BV · 01-17-2008, 12:07 AM

actually I don't even want them clicking on the pictures that much if you can help it

i always use very nice but tame pictures yet use more explicit and click able images in the header and banners which lead to the tour.

EXAMPLE: http://www.beachmodel.com/free_galle...ccbill=1352409

2012 · 01-17-2008, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

That is GREAT advice!

Damian_Maxcash · 01-17-2008, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

actually I don't even want them clicking on the pictures that much if you can help it

i always use very nice but tame pictures yet use more explicit and click able images in the header and banners which lead to the tour.

EXAMPLE: http://www.beachmodel.com/free_galle...ccbill=1352409

Now THAT is what I am talking about

2012 · 01-17-2008, 12:12 AM

uh , huh huh huh huh huh huh huh

seeric · 01-17-2008, 12:32 AM

everything that isnt a free promo piece of content on my fhgs links to the tour.

murder those galls with links

Sarah_Jayne · 01-17-2008, 06:35 AM

interesting stuff

01-16-2008, 08:12 AM	#1
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	How 'Hard sell' would you like hosted gals to be? I noticed that a lot of hosted gals are getting very hard sell.... Do you think thats a good thing - how far would you allow sponsors to go before you stopped listing them? Damian_Maxcash

01-16-2008, 08:35 AM	#2
Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	The purpose of using hosted galleries is for that particular TGP owner to generate sales so by all means sell the shit out of your product. I've seen too many hosted galleries that basically do the opposite and do too little to sell and maybe have one little link through to the site... that's pretty much useless. I understand why TGPS that sell spots (and even those that take free submissions) have their own rules and limit submitters outgoing gallery links - so if you want your shit listed there, follow their rules, but hosted galleries are or at least should be a whole different animal. It would be nice if sponsors took control of their content again. I'm not saying you should use blind links or even a bunch of un-linked thumbs, but the content to link through ratio is, IMHO, way to high. Give them things to click on, along with a reason to, and by golly they just might. __________________

01-16-2008, 10:36 AM	#5
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01-16-2008, 03:51 PM	#9
Diligent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hoy Suecia, mañana Nirvana Posts: 1,594	Yup, that's the way I like 'em too - as aggressive selling as possible (no popunders loading dialer though, lol..) I've actually personally, and recently, seen one of MC's aggressive FHG perform a lot better than the "cookie cutter" galleries that goes up on regular TGP's... I'm was working with SE traffic there, and as I've mentioned to Sarah I got the first sale after less than 10 uniques from just starting sending to it.. and notice this.. those uniques were to the gallery Such things can happen if they're layedout aggressively and used with better traffic than skimmed TGP's etc. So to aggressive selling Goes __________________ ~¤~ MORE MONEY ~¤~ VOD? XoD! ~¤~ ~¤~ ICQ# 9828 2461 ~¤~ Last edited by Diligent; 01-16-2008 at 03:53 PM..

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Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Any more opinions on this.....

01-16-2008, 10:43 PM	#11
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	if it's hard you probly have a better chance at sale, ... no ? __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

01-17-2008, 12:07 AM	#16
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	actually I don't even want them clicking on the pictures that much if you can help it i always use very nice but tame pictures yet use more explicit and click able images in the header and banners which lead to the tour. EXAMPLE: http://www.beachmodel.com/free_galle...ccbill=1352409

01-17-2008, 12:12 AM	#19
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	uh , huh huh huh huh huh huh huh __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

01-17-2008, 12:32 AM	#20
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	everything that isnt a free promo piece of content on my fhgs links to the tour. murder those galls with links

01-17-2008, 06:35 AM	#21
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	interesting stuff