Barefootsies

50 mike-al fucking idiots.

Sorry bitch, I'm not playing devil's advocate with you. Anyone who is a smaller company, with limited time and resources understands it fine.

When YOU start making content, get it stolen, and have to deal with the issue. THEN you come and give me your "expert" advice on how to resolve it.

Until then, keep stirring the pot.

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Zorgman

Its ready there. I found one just yesterday. However, i notice he took it down now. Looked almost the same.

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Barefootsies

wow.....

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mike-al

Like calling me a bitch do you? Lets see how that plays out in your future

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mike-al

redtube is almost a spitting image of the default template of that script

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Pleasurepays

everyone thinks that "things" are the problem.

its the people in this industry that are the problem.


"never teach a pig to sing. it will just waste your time and annoy the pig"

Zorgman

Mike, the TEVS default sytle is nothing like redtube. But it could be made to look like it without much fuss.

There will be 3 more index styles being added by monday. TEVS webmasters can download them from the members area then. :D

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mike-al

oh i mean clipshare or whatever default is redtube... one of those scripts.. i forget which

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mike-al

hit me on icq in a minute, installing icq now, my other computer died so I am a bit outta whack here

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will76

Fuck C&D or DMCA, why not file charges against the " users " who are uploading the stolen content, DMCA doesn't protect them. Then the site has to comply and give over their information. I bet not all of them use fake info and proxy servers to upload content. Not now, since they know they have nothing to worry about. 50/50 chance the ip is tied back into the site owner. Either way, nail a few of the "people" doing the uploading. If one program laid down the law on their content, people who steal would stay away from that program. And/Or if you target 1 site at a time like megarotic and every program sues all the users who upload their content to that site, then people will stop going to megarotic and it will lose a lot of it's traffic. If it loses all it's content, and people are scared to upload new content, then where do they get content from

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mike-al

I don't buy the "user upload" scheme one bit, what typical user
has such a connection to upload 2 gigs of porn on their "dsl" connection
that is some 512kbps if they are lucky

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stickyfingerz

Umm ya and I do thanks. and Im not ashamed to attach my opinions to mine, unlike you. Coward.

will76

then you tie it back into the site owner and they have no protection from DMCA if they put it there. they are nailed. there is clear case of copyright violation by the "user". you can easily force the site that is acting like a "hosting company" to turn over the information for that user. If they dont have the info or if it ties back to them they are fucked.

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mike-al

sounds a little too complicated, could be easier than that.. if you C&D the site owner, you also C&D the host... then the host is notified the site owner...
The host has certain Terms & Conditions to abide by in regards to their network contract and passes these terms down to their end users...

you know the old "no spamming" no illegal content stuff.
If you are hitting them with 3-4 C&D's and they are not doing nothing
now the HOST is just as reliable as the copyright infringing site owner is

Now you have direct heat scenario on the host to force the client to shape up.... The host risks getting sued based on clients illegal or care free site operating... The host risks losing its entire plug, thus is the ultiamte pressure...

Now there is more than just a host.. you can also C&D the hosts uplink backbone provider(s) and let them know as well.. now you have a backbone provider putting heat on the host, the host is putting heat on the client or pulling the plug as they don't want to be involved...

All this thought over a salad, yet according to barefootsie, im a ignorant idiot
BITCH eh? You're a fucking troll, and btw I sold content in the past, and if i ever caught another mother fucking selling or giving my content away, his ass would be on a silver fucking platter and be quartered.. thats the difference between PLAYERS AND GIMPS. Players move and react, gimps call others names on boards and suffer in their "small enviroment"

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mike-al

Sorry about that guys, that got to me... but back to what I am poking at...
Noone is protecting their content.. this leads me to believe something strange is going on here.... something is NOT adding up, and I am trying to figure out what it is.. Is it a different format of money they want but just keeping quiet, is it they are the runners of all these sites? Soemthing is not making sense to all this supposed illegal content out there and nothing being done about it...

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quantum-x

See my earlier posts on this subject.
My code works with every major CMS, and can tie everything back to individual users, but noone seems to care ;)

and i'm not spamming any product, i'm over the concept of trying to help almost...

Pleasurepays

haha... the thread killer. an actual solution. of course, not something people are really interested in.


proof again that this industry is full of apathetic, short sighted, greedy retards who have always had the "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality.



"hey guys, i can stop this sort of content theft in its tracks!"
..... <crickets>

too funny.

notoldschool

ha ha. Thats because I actually have something to lose by pissing off people who promote my shit. Call me a coward, I say Im smart. This board is great but I dont trust any single person who uses it.

BTW, I have atleast 400 free sites that get more traffic than your top paysite. I also push more traffic to one of the hundred plus programs I promote daily, than all your paysites put together. Not saying your sites are ugly or not usable, but when your pushing 600 people a day to your top site, I wouldnt be acting like I know anything. You should have started by making a good paysite, learning how to get traffic, then maybe start a program. But after reading your posts I understand why you wouldnt go that route.

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Fluid

lets review...

TGPs
MGPs
Free sites going to 10 pic minimums
Free sites going to 20 pic minimums
The streaming video patent
Billing companies folding
Zango

and now tubes.

Know what they all have in common? The all were forcasted to be the end of our industry in their time ;)

mike-al

so that means nothing will be the end of the industry based on that theory? <blink> <blink> <blink> and define industry.... affiliate industry or porn industry

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stickyfingerz

lol Well since we are just now building internal traffic I think we'll be find captain coward. No we are not huge yet. Im pushing around 300k a month of internal traffic up from 200k the month before. Slow and steady wins the race. I work everyday on our traffic. Im sure Id be much better off spending my time spamming crappy threads about some looney canidate that has 0 chance of getting the nomination or winning any election for Pres. lol

tony286

Your right, they really are two separate industries.

Fluid

I wouldn't say nothing, but I will say the sky has been falling so long that I don't even glance up anymore when I hear about it

notoldschool

Funny how you have to resort to slamming my sig because everything I said is true. I do not need to spam my program sig because everyone allready knows my sites lead the way in our rightfull niches, so it holds no monetary gain for me to do otherwise. Like I said, I think you have a nice start to your program and I wish you luck. I might even promote you someday when you offer more advanced billing options.

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stickyfingerz

We offer cascading through CCBill actually. Im glad I didn't go 3rd party at this point. <sarcasm> But anyways I forgot to mention that I own a Leer Jet and a Rolls Royce phantom is parked in my 25 car garage. No I wont bother to show you, I wont be lowered to that level. Just take my word that Im a big player. </sarcasm> Don't make claims to be some big shot if you are too scared to reveal who you are. By looking at your threads you have made I see signs pointing to this being unlikely, but who knows could be true. Either way I've got traffic to work on in order to catch up I guess. Have fun.

L-Pink

What really surprises me is the huge 2257 loophole that allows tube-sites to even exist.

If I have a 40 year old woman appear to touch herself in a cropped photo this simulated act can put me in prison if my paperwork isn't in order at the business site I must provide. Meanwhile her 17 year old daughter can lick the ass of her friend, shit in a cup and eat it provided she "uploads it herself" to a site with no age verification ..... wtf?

Maybe it's time to get on the 2257 bandwagon?


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notoldschool

I feel the same way. In reality lets just say your right and nobody really cares. I can go with that. I just hate to see assholes steal content and give it away for profit.

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mike-al

My friend just told me he is being harrassed by a photography company that is basically trying to extort $3000 from him via snail mail, based off a script he purchased in where there was some pictures that claim to be owned by this company used in the default templated script..

So instead of DCMA'ing him and getting him to remove their supposed licensed stock photography, looks like they just decided to bill for infringement
Says he gets one every month for 5 months and don't do nothing about it and wants to see where it goes... Says it'd be worth it to be sued as he wants to countersue for extortion.. Anyone have a clueon this? Is this legal? If so why are not you guys doing the same? I mean if 2 pictuers of some girls face is worth $1500 each... Whats an entire porn clip worth $25,000?

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stickyfingerz

Im totally against the stealing, I just dont think the best avenue to fix things is to try to "herd cats" post theft. Trying to police all these sites is unlikely to do much good in the long run. There is a shit load out there already, do we want all the new fresh exclusive stuff out there now too? People like fresh new porn. I personally am unlikely to watch a scene more than once. So if the line of supply is cut off the consumer is more likely to sign up to something they cant get free. Non dvd release exclusive content you cant get anywhere else. People will put up maybe with a bit of hassle to view something like that. Dunno to me seems the more likely way to go. Push for industry wide change on how we all deliver our content. There is enough big money people getting content stolen and hurting their bottom line right? Ok then it would be prudent for them to get together the best coders in the biz and figure out a solution. Shit give it away for links back to their sites. A plugin that upsells to something they sell.

Maybe a cam company or dating company might find it very financially lucrative to invest in such a product and give it away for a simple upsell plugin from peoples members areas.. Hmm imagine a tool made for the whole industry that will protect member content given away for the cost of an upsell that they even give a percentage back to the site just like a normal affiliate. These are just thoughts Im throwing out. Maybe say an industry leading cam and dating company with the resources to develop such a product might do very very well giving away such a thing..