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kane · 01-14-2008, 05:35 PM

Here is a nice little story about how our national intelligence director is helping to draft a bill that would allow the government to access any email, web search or file transfer you make.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/US_dra...ment_0114.html

If this makes it to the floor for a vote anyone that actually votes for it should be immediately removed from the senate.

polish_aristocrat · 01-14-2008, 05:40 PM

access to web searches is probably the worst thing that can happen but i dont see it happening oficially

although if you have a google account and are always logged into it, then theoretically they can be recording all your searches as well

btw havent looked at the article yet, will do it later

_Richard_ · 01-14-2008, 05:41 PM

it's always disturbing to read things like this.. be given a better source, only to have that source gone

happens a lot

uno · 01-14-2008, 05:47 PM

doesn't that already happen with carnivore, echelon and parts of the patriot act?

uno · 01-14-2008, 05:49 PM

doesn't that already happen with carnivore, echelon and parts of the patriot act?

D · 01-14-2008, 06:10 PM

kane · 01-14-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

access to web searches is probably the worst thing that can happen but i dont see it happening oficially

although if you have a google account and are always logged into it, then theoretically they can be recording all your searches as well

btw havent looked at the article yet, will do it later

I guess I thought email would be the worst of it. If you were doing searches for terrorist and stuff like that you could always defend yourself by saying that you were just looking up what these people were about. If you make a comment about blowing something up or write an email that is inflammatory it is your words and could hurt you pretty badly.

SeniorX · 01-14-2008, 06:17 PM

Big companies never delete any of the info they get about you, storage is dirt cheap. E.g. Google even keeps your photos on Orkut after you delete them AND delete your account - closed an orkut account a year ago, photo is still on their server, though Google did a big PR job in news about how they updated their privacy so that they have copyright for user photos only until the user has an account with them.

aico · 01-14-2008, 06:34 PM

Here's an idea: Don't do anything illegal.

Socks · 01-14-2008, 06:56 PM

when I use a keyword search term and see some of the top searches in the world are related to child porn, underage porn, shit like that.. Makes me wonder why google doesn't offer the government a list of IP's who are making those searches. I'm against the government forcing the issue, but I think a company like google should take a stronger stance against child porn.

seeric · 01-14-2008, 08:06 PM

i dont so anything online to worry about what people want to look at. knock yourself out big brother.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-14-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

doesn't that already happen with carnivore, echelon and parts of the patriot act?

it sure does

pocketkangaroo · 01-14-2008, 08:23 PM

This already happens guys. MSN and Yahoo! turned over a shitload of search data awhile ago. Google fought it for awhile and I'm not sure if they'll give in. This law just makes it mandatory, but don't think they don't mine this data already.

papill0n · 01-14-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i dont so anything online to worry about what people want to look at. knock yourself out big brother.

Same here dude but I think this is taking it too far.

D · 01-14-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i dont so anything online to worry about what people want to look at. knock yourself out big brother.

Still - we should reserve the right to do stuff that we don't want our government knowing about, I think.

tiger · 01-14-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Here's an idea: Don't do anything illegal.

It's called privacy has nothing to do with what you are or are not doing.

You probably don't do anything illegal in your bedroom either but would you want cameras installed and monitored by the government?

minddust · 01-14-2008, 11:55 PM

I don't give a shit, they already know my birthdate so they know my password

WHO'S THE FUCKING GENIUS! EH

kane · 01-15-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

Here's an idea: Don't do anything illegal.

That's not the point. the point is at some point we should be able to expect a certian level or privacy. Would you like a cop to follow you 24 hours a day? You aren't breaking any laws, but he is there just in case. Would you like someone to monitor what you watch on TV or what books you read or music you listen to while you are in your house. You aren't doing anything wrong, but they just want to know.

For me it is all about starting the ball rolling. Once you start taking away liberties it is hard to get them back and more easy to just continue to lose them.

WoW! · 01-15-2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

Here's an idea: Don't do anything illegal.

Do you have any clue about what comes out of your mouth?

Who needs laws with sanctimonious pricks like you around.

charlie g · 01-15-2008, 09:12 AM

Unfortunately there's not a damn thing to be done about the loss of privacy in the US. Most people don't even care unless it affects them on a personal level, and by then it's too late to change. Wait until they roll out universal health care. You will be told what to eat and when to eat.

bigalownz · 01-15-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

Here is a nice little story about how our national intelligence director is helping to draft a bill that would allow the government to access any email, web search or file transfer you make.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/US_dra...ment_0114.html

If this makes it to the floor for a vote anyone that actually votes for it should be immediately removed from the senate.

they all ready do they been doing it for years

every phone call, radio etc & internet traffic is scaned by them

they even know when you go for a shit

01-14-2008, 05:35 PM	#1
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Government wants access to all your email, searches and transfers Here is a nice little story about how our national intelligence director is helping to draft a bill that would allow the government to access any email, web search or file transfer you make. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/US_dra...ment_0114.html If this makes it to the floor for a vote anyone that actually votes for it should be immediately removed from the senate.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,990	it's always disturbing to read things like this.. be given a better source, only to have that source gone happens a lot

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SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	Big companies never delete any of the info they get about you, storage is dirt cheap. E.g. Google even keeps your photos on Orkut after you delete them AND delete your account - closed an orkut account a year ago, photo is still on their server, though Google did a big PR job in news about how they updated their privacy so that they have copyright for user photos only until the user has an account with them.

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aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Here's an idea: Don't do anything illegal.

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	when I use a keyword search term and see some of the top searches in the world are related to child porn, underage porn, shit like that.. Makes me wonder why google doesn't offer the government a list of IP's who are making those searches. I'm against the government forcing the issue, but I think a company like google should take a stronger stance against child porn.

01-14-2008, 08:06 PM	#11
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i dont so anything online to worry about what people want to look at. knock yourself out big brother.

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	This already happens guys. MSN and Yahoo! turned over a shitload of search data awhile ago. Google fought it for awhile and I'm not sure if they'll give in. This law just makes it mandatory, but don't think they don't mine this data already.

01-14-2008, 11:55 PM	#17
minddust Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,438	I don't give a shit, they already know my birthdate so they know my password WHO'S THE FUCKING GENIUS! EH

01-15-2008, 09:12 AM	#20
charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,759	Unfortunately there's not a damn thing to be done about the loss of privacy in the US. Most people don't even care unless it affects them on a personal level, and by then it's too late to change. Wait until they roll out universal health care. You will be told what to eat and when to eat. __________________ AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com -------------------------------