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Old 01-08-2008, 02:15 AM   #1
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Ron Paul goes on Leno and kills any chance of winning.

If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets. To me he is no different than any of the other candidates. He says some stuff I like and some stuff I don't care for or about, but he looks pretty strange and his mannerism are odd. He come off on TV as an odd guy. Sadly, this country will not elect a guy that looks like him.
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:41 AM   #2
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I agree with you 100%, but I got news for you - he had zero chance of winning whether he went on Leno or not.

The poor guy looks like he's shell-shocked or suffering from caffeine withdrawal every time he opens his mouth. He seriously needs someone to help calm him down and explain that a successful presidential strategy takes at least a little personality and mic skills!

Whatever his message is, it gets lost in his rants and almost incoherent debate answers. But hey, the porn guys here seem to love him ...
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I agree with you 100%, but I got news for you - he had zero chance of winning whether he went on Leno or not.

The poor guy looks like he's shell-shocked or suffering from caffeine withdrawal every time he opens his mouth. He seriously needs someone to help calm him down and explain that a successful presidential strategy takes at least a little personality and mic skills!

Whatever his message is, it gets lost in his rants and almost incoherent debate answers. But hey, the porn guys here seem to love him ...
I've said from the start that he has no chance of winning. This appearance on Leno was the last nail in his coffin.
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obviously he has zero chance of winning...I thought he was great on Leno, have you seen the other guys?
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Kane, agree 100%. Even in the very unlikely event that he could make a run at the top I don't think his candidacy could stand the focus on him for any length of time. He just comes across as odd.

The Giuliani comment was funny though.

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Old 01-08-2008, 05:05 AM   #6
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Whatever his message is, it gets lost in his rants and almost incoherent debate answers. But hey, the porn guys here seem to love him ...
i have never found anything incoherent about this debate answers.
i never got lost listening to him.
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He made perfect sense to me. I thought he did well. You can tell he thinks for himself, which is unlike most of the other candidates who tend to say whatever they think the masses want to hear.
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He made perfect sense to me. I thought he did well.
I agree, he made a good appearance. Much better than the one on "Meet The Press".
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George Bush doesn't come across as odd?
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Although I disagree with Ron Paul on several key issues (pro-life/choice, gun control, the UN, etc), and would never vote for him, I thought he made a good national showing for himself on the Leno show (I generally put style after substance when it comes to issues like National Security).

It is shameful that Fox News kept Ron Paul off the stage for the New Hampshire debate, especially when he was running in a tie for third in the polls with Giuliani in that State.

A few days earlier, before the Iowa primary, the Leno show gave Mike Huckabee a chance to make an appearance on his show, and Huckabee didn't talk politics at all, and instead offered light chatter to show he was an "Aw Shucks" kind of guy.

As for appearance, I thought he looked like Moe Howard from the 3 Stooges (with less hair) or Gomer Pyle...

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Looking at their two Leno appearance, I would have to say that I would opt for Paul over Huckabee, although the chances are greater that I would write in Paul McCartney or Huckleberry Finn (or even Moe and Gomer) before voting for either of those aforementioned political chuckleheads...

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All I hear is people saying he is a nut job and has no chance of winning. Because he has no chance of winning that makes him a nutjob?

So I guess if you are not killing Muslims you are a nut job.....cool.

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If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets. To me he is no different than any of the other candidates. He says some stuff I like and some stuff I don't care for or about, but he looks pretty strange and his mannerism are odd. He come off on TV as an odd guy. Sadly, this country will not elect a guy that looks like him.
Don't be so shallow.

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He is a nut job because he talks about too much change... unrealistic change... I appreciate the fact that he educates people about all of the ways govt fucks us.... but if you think about it a minute you can figure it out on your own.

At this point in time I think we are going to see a democratic president and I think the ticket will be Obama/Edwards unless one of them makes a huge gaff. I am starting to see Richardson and Clinton draw their wagons together as well but I don't see Obama losing too much momentum at this point and Clintons campaign team isn't as well organized or professional as Obamas. I heard this on 3 network news channels so far (Fox, MSNBC and ABC).

I have noticed that the Republicans have kind of backed off some of the war retoric and are speaking in softer voices... it's funny to hear... they sound like the dude talking to the girl he is trying to fuck.

I predict Obama will win the democratic primary in NH tonight. I think that on the Republican side you will see Romney on top with McCain in second position.

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He did excellent, what are you talking about? Man you Americans.
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When did he ever had a chance of winning??
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I love it. If he went on saying that he wanted to keep our soldiers in Iraq for 100 years, and that he thinks we should advance our federal goverments control over us, and that we should keep watching the dollar drop as we fall farther into bankruptcy as a country he would be considered not a nutjob?
Fuckng americans are so stupid. Boy do we love our britney spears. stupid sheep.
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I love it. If he went on saying that he wanted to keep our soldiers in Iraq for 100 years, and that he thinks we should advance our federal goverments control over us, and that we should keep watching the dollar drop as we fall farther into bankruptcy as a country he would be considered not a nutjob?
Fuckng americans are so stupid. Boy do we love our britney spears. stupid sheep.
Yes, you have all the answers are a genius and have figured out everything. Everyone else fits into the category of stupid mindless foolish American sheep who are brainwashed by Murdoch's FOX. In fact, you're such a genius you are the first person to even use the metaphor "sheep".

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Yes, you have all the answers are a genius and have figured out everything. Everyone else fits into the category of stupid mindless foolish American sheep who are brainwashed by Murdoch's FOX. In fact, you're such a genius you are the first person to even use the metaphor "sheep".

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR GREAT SUCCESS AND EINSTEIN-LIKE IQ!
If I didn't know better I'd say he's starting to get to you. I think this is the first time in many years I've ever seen you post something in such big font.
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If I didn't know better I'd say he's starting to get to you. I think this is the first time in many years I've ever seen you post something in such big font.
GFY style is getting to me. I even used a "LOL" recently. Ugh. I feel ashamed. Like I started as an AOL dial-up user or something.

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To most americans, the message is boring and non-important ...

Looks, on the other hand, can make a huge difference ....
Sean Hannity - Republican



Alan Colmes - Democrat



Both side by side:



Who would YOU vote for ?????
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To most americans, the message is boring and non-important ...

Looks, on the other hand, can make a huge difference ....
Sean Hannity - Republican



Alan Colmes - Democrat



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Who would YOU vote for ?????
Colmes because Hannity is an asshole.
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Colmes because Hannity is an asshole.
You are cheating ... you are using your brain ...

Test was for looks ....

If I was a chick, I would want to have Sean as a fuck buddy and Colmes as a real platonic friend ...
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To most americans, the message is boring and non-important ...

Looks, on the other hand, can make a huge difference ....
Sean Hannity - Republican



Alan Colmes - Democrat



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Hannity looks a bit too smug. Colmes looks like he might have smoked some wacky weed.
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While I agree that most people are idiots favoring look over substance, i think that his appearance on Leno was positive.. I dont think he ll lose any fans and can only gain..
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Yes, you have all the answers are a genius and have figured out everything. Everyone else fits into the category of stupid mindless foolish American sheep who are brainwashed by Murdoch's FOX. In fact, you're such a genius you are the first person to even use the metaphor "sheep".

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR GREAT SUCCESS AND EINSTEIN-LIKE IQ!
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If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets.

So true!

He did come off goofy as hell, those who didn't have a clue about him before now think he's a joke.
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GFY style is getting to me. I even used a "LOL" recently. Ugh. I feel ashamed. Like I started as an AOL dial-up user or something.

"My name is Colin Delia and i am a GFY addict"
Tell me about it. I have a feeling the stupidity on here is starting to get contagious. I had to edit my above reply to you after posting it, 'cause I discovered I had accidentally written "year's" instead of "years".
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He did come off goofy as hell
I see you didn't watch the same show the rest of us did.
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So true!

He did come off goofy as hell, those who didn't have a clue about him before now think he's a joke.
kinds like you do in this post?
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Sean Hannity - Republican



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lol Alan Colmes is a Fox New Channel patsy and isn't a real anything. He's only on that show to make Sean Hannity look better.
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If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets. To me he is no different than any of the other candidates. He says some stuff I like and some stuff I don't care for or about, but he looks pretty strange and his mannerism are odd. He come off on TV as an odd guy. Sadly, this country will not elect a guy that looks like him.
Unlike you, I didn't hear Ron Paul say the word "stuff" one time.

I hope you have the ability to understand what he is saying instead of worrying about how people look...
Just think, you could re-educate yourself on freedom, prosperity and peace.
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If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets. To me he is no different than any of the other candidates. He says some stuff I like and some stuff I don't care for or about, but he looks pretty strange and his mannerism are odd. He come off on TV as an odd guy. Sadly, this country will not elect a guy that looks like him.
But they elected Bush???


Hmmm.
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If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets. To me he is no different than any of the other candidates. He says some stuff I like and some stuff I don't care for or about, but he looks pretty strange and his mannerism are odd. He come off on TV as an odd guy. Sadly, this country will not elect a guy that looks like him.
Sorry but your conclusions are way off. He did great on the Leno show. Just like last time. Yes, this was not his first time on the Leno show. He was on back in October.

The dude is no-nonsense straight up.

VOTE RON PAUL!
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Unlike you, I didn't hear Ron Paul say the word "stuff" one time.

I hope you have the ability to understand what he is saying instead of worrying about how people look...
Just think, you could re-educate yourself on freedom, prosperity and peace.
All I am saying is that he came off as being kind of a goofy, strange guy. When you go on national TV and you say that the reason you were left off a debate is because people are afraid of the truth, yet you don't explain what that truth everyone is so afraid of is you look a little odd.

In the end we are a visual society. I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying it is fact. When you look at Ron Paul you don't see someone that looks very "presidential."
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Unlike you, I didn't hear Ron Paul say the word "stuff" one time.

I hope you have the ability to understand what he is saying instead of worrying about how people look...
Just think, you could re-educate yourself on freedom, prosperity and peace.
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But they elected Bush???


Hmmm.
Bush, when not giving a speech or talking about anything of substance comes off as a good guy. He seems like the kind of guy you want to hang with and have a beer with and that "normal" aspect of him is what drew a lot of people to him.
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So people would rather have a pretty slave-master than think for themselves?

Here's leaked video of a Ruppert Murdoch internal meeting discussing the Ron Paul campaign.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sWpoYzHq-Ko
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Sorry but your conclusions are way off. He did great on the Leno show. Just like last time. Yes, this was not his first time on the Leno show. He was on back in October.

The dude is no-nonsense straight up.

VOTE RON PAUL!
I guess this is the beauty of the world and the human race. You watched the show and saw a guy that you think did great and I saw the show and saw a guy that looked odd, uncomfortable and came off like a gut that runs a conspiracy theory blog.

I went into the show with an open mind, I don't know a lot about Paul other than the fact that he is GFY's favorite son so I wanted to see him for myself and I was anything but impressed.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:22 AM   #41
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So people would rather have a pretty slave-master than think for themselves?

Here's leaked video of a Ruppert Murdoch internal meeting discussing the Ron Paul campaign.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sWpoYzHq-Ko
Any you think this type of stuff actually helps him?
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that last post should read:
And you think this type of stuff actually helps him?
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When you go on national TV and you say that the reason you were left off a debate is because people are afraid of the truth, yet you don't explain what that truth everyone is so afraid of is you look a little odd.
You mean like when he said certain politicians print off money whenever they like, driving the dollar value down for the rest of us?
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you say that the reason you were left off a debate is because people are afraid of the truth, yet you don't explain what that truth everyone is so afraid of is you look a little odd.
Are you serious? lol.. First of, he gave a bunch of reasons to explain why he was pushed aside by Fox... I thought it was also pretty obvious that by the truth, he means his message, his views on the war, economy, etc.. which he elaborated on later.. not some secret truth he fell to reveal.. He also mentionned that FOX was afraid of the truth, not "people" or "everyone" as you claim.. Maybe you'd like to re watch the interview on youtube.. https://youtube.com/watch?v=-pxdmNzKNfU

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You mean like when he said certain politicians print off money whenever they like, driving the dollar value down for the rest of us?
Well, as I was watching it he said something like he thought one of the reasons he was kept off the debate was that they (meaning fox and/or the other candidates) didn't want to hear the the truth. He did state several things he is against or for and his positions on other things. Maybe he meant these as part of the truth he was talking about, but to me it didn't really come off like that.
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How about when he mentioned that some politicians want the US to stay in the middle east for 100 years or so.

He also made a very good point about us having military bases in other countries. Why the hell do we have bases all over the globe again? It's not for our safety in the states, that's for sure.

I know, it's hard to keep up with all those words he is saying when you are concerned with how he looks.
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kane . . . Leno probably had no effect as he never stood a chance anyway.

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If Ron Paul wants to get elected he needs to stay off of TV. He looks like one of the old critics that sat in the balcony and heckled on the muppets. To me he is no different than any of the other candidates. He says some stuff I like and some stuff I don't care for or about, but he looks pretty strange and his mannerism are odd. He come off on TV as an odd guy. Sadly, this country will not elect a guy that looks like him.
I couldnt resist...

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Are you serious? lol.. First of, he gave a bunch of reasons to explain why he was pushed aside by Fox... I thought it was also pretty obvious that by the truth, he means his message, his views on the war, economy, etc.. which he elaborated on later.. not some secret truth he fell to reveal.. He also mentionned that FOX was afraid of the truth, not "people" or "everyone" as you claim.. Maybe you'd like to re watch the interview on youtube.. https://youtube.com/watch?v=-pxdmNzKNfU
This is taken from a transcript of the appearance.

Early on Leno asks him why, if he was a qualified candidate he was left off the debate.

Paul replies:
You know, I don't know. I can speculate.
If I qualified, as you point out, that I had the
qualification, it must be they didn't want to hear the
message. Maybe they're intimidated. Maybe they're
frightened. Maybe they don't want to hear the truth.
Who knows? We'll have to figure that out.


He then states that he thinks part of it is that Fox news is tied into national policy issues and since he is a strict constitutionalist they ignore him. That's a fair point, but is this the truth he was going to tell them? This is no secret. He then mentions he is opposed to the war in Iraq, again no secret. It is not until after the commercial break that he actually starts to get into his ideals and beliefs. If you assume that these ideals and beliefs are the truths he was going to say during the debate, they too are not earth shattering. They are the same thing he has said in every other debate and he didn't string them together. He needed to say, "Fox news was afraid of the truth, they were afraid I would explain how our government just prints money when we need it and that drives down the value of our dollar." or something like that. They way he said it he came off like a guy who has some great secret he is waiting to spring on the world then he never delivers it.
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kane . . . Leno probably had no effect as he never stood a chance anyway.

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Will do. I'm having ICQ issues too. I'm doing some editing and rewriting on them, but will have them for you later today.
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