Originally Posted by CDSmith

Wrong. What's silly is taking something like this public without first bringing it privately to the program and talking it over with them first. In fact it's not only silly it's downright assinine, and I have no surprise whatsoever that a lot of programs are fed up with idiots doing it, usually for the sake of some lame weekend drama.

ARS is obviously here for the long haul. Where was minusonebrain a couple of years ago? No one even heard of him back then. How many times does this little shitsqueak have to shoot himself in the foot before he learns how to aim?

Originally Posted by minusonebit

LOL, on your bandwidth bill?

Originally Posted by minusonebit

Do you realize why programs use affiliates?

Originally Posted by minusonebit

Its because their cost per sale is LOWER than if they did it all themselves.

Originally Posted by minusonebit

So you admit that you steal traffic from your affiliates?

Originally Posted by minusonebit

And yeah, I am going to knock every dirty program out there. There are plenty of them, so I am sure I'll be quite busy.

Originally Posted by minusonebit

But not every program steals traffic from its affiliates.

Originally Posted by evildick

It says this in your article:

"There are also other links that take users to areas like the Terms of Service or the 2257 compliance statement and have no clickable path back to the tour without use of the browser?s back button."

Did you even click those links? They all open in a new window for me. You don't even need to use the back button because your tour is still open.

Another fine investigation.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Wrong. What's silly is taking something like this public without first bringing it privately to the program and talking it over with them first. In fact it's not only silly it's downright assinine, and I have no surprise whatsoever that a lot of programs are fed up with idiots doing it, usually for the sake of some lame weekend drama.

ARS is obviously here for the long haul. Where was minusonebrain a couple of years ago? No one even heard of him back then. How many times does this little shitsqueak have to shoot himself in the foot before he learns how to aim?

Originally Posted by ARS Bryan via AIM

(10:57:26 AM) ARS - Bryan: DUDE, WTF are you talking about traffic leaks on our FHGs?
(1:23:19 AM) Keith: You have traffic leaks on several of your tours.
(1:23:37 AM) Keith: What is this suspended account notice I have here?
(1:23:41 AM) ARS - Bryan: you said trafflic leaks on several of our FHGs
(1:23:49 AM) ARS - Bryan: traffic*
(1:23:50 AM) Keith: FHGs.
(1:23:57 AM) Keith: Yes, on the FHGs.
(1:24:01 AM) ARS - Bryan: dude you're an asshole. everyone knows it
(1:24:12 AM) ARS - Bryan: there are no traffic leaks on our FHGs. sorry
(1:24:22 AM) Keith: http://www.adultrevenueservice.com/r...1&b=PSC&c=free
(1:24:31 AM) Keith: Its at the bottom of the page.
(1:24:38 AM) Keith: Several links.
(1:24:51 AM) Keith: That is one of your sites, isnt it?
(1:27:23 AM) Keith: Asshole I might be, because I don't tolerate people's bullshit. I didn't take it out of John and I wont take it out of anyone else.
(1:29:49 AM) ARS - Bryan: what bullshit?
(1:29:59 AM) ARS - Bryan: you really are on medication, aren't you?
(1:30:03 AM) Keith: Traffic leaks are bullshit.
(1:30:19 AM) Keith: TMM's security breach was also bullshit.
(1:30:22 AM) ARS - Bryan: lol, if you had a problem with any of our pages you could have contacted us first
(1:30:38 AM) ARS - Bryan: ARS is one of the oldest adult affiliate programs out there. Better get your mind right, buddy. We don't shave
(1:31:06 AM) Keith: No, I said you have traffic leaks.
(1:31:11 AM) Keith: Not that you shaved.
(1:31:18 AM) Keith: Similar to shaving, but not exactly the same.
(1:31:22 AM) ARS - Bryan: our customer service page that is on all of our tours is a traffic leak?
(1:31:28 AM) ARS - Bryan: makes sense!
(1:31:42 AM) ARS - Bryan: and now our FHGs have traffic leaks? a 2257 page is a traffic leak?
(1:31:46 AM) ARS - Bryan: hmm, ok man
(1:32:05 AM) Keith: Yeah, it is. Because if a surfer clicks there and finds your "Our Sites" page, its another way for them to join whereby the affiliate is not getting credited.
(1:32:43 AM) Keith: That is the definition of a traffic leak. Its a textbook example.
(1:33:03 AM) ARS - Bryan: it'll be taken care of in the morning. i'll either remove the "our sites" from our CUSTOMER SERVICE area or i'll pass the ref code
(1:33:11 AM) ARS - Bryan: now where are the traffic leaks on our FHGs?
(1:33:16 AM) ARS - Bryan: you won't find any
(1:33:33 AM) ARS - Bryan: was it really worth starting a bullshit thread on GFY, making yourself look worse?
(1:34:04 AM) ARS - Bryan: I tried to give you a chance and helped you out the best I could. But you had to go and act like a jerk instead of going straight to ARS and asking us to fix the problem
(1:34:55 AM) Keith: After you fix the issue, there wont be one. Right now, there is one. And there was at the time I started the thread and at the time I put the report up on KAT.
(1:35:28 AM) ARS - Bryan: lol
(1:35:34 AM) ARS - Bryan: you have some nerve, man
(1:35:43 AM) Keith: And the other links are still leaks, but less severe ones.
(1:35:53 AM) ARS - Bryan: WHAT LINKS?
(1:35:58 AM) ARS - Bryan: our FHGs have NO so called "leaks"
(1:36:05 AM) Keith: Privacy Policy, 2257, etc.
(1:36:07 AM) ARS - Bryan: you're crazy. there are NO leaks on our FHGs
(1:36:16 AM) ARS - Bryan: FHGs have no leaks and thats what your post was all about
(1:36:17 AM) ARS - Bryan: you lied
(1:36:18 AM) Keith: http://www.adultrevenueservice.com/r...1&b=PSC&c=free
(1:36:22 AM) Keith: Is that your site?
(1:36:29 AM) ARS - Bryan: no man, here you go, dodging the issue!!!!!!!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
(1:36:30 AM) Keith: Is that one of your FHGs?
(1:36:44 AM) ARS - Bryan: uhhhhhhh
(1:36:49 AM) ARS - Bryan: that's called a BYOT
(1:37:21 AM) Keith: Its pretty much the same damn thing as an FHG, isnt it?
(1:37:25 AM) ARS - Bryan: actually no, that looks like a gallery for a BYOT
(1:37:28 AM) ARS - Bryan: which is webmaster-made
(1:37:54 AM) Keith: Webmaster made? I didn't make that.
(1:37:57 AM) ARS - Bryan: dude, you have no case here. you made an ass of yourself
(1:38:05 AM) ARS - Bryan: no one said you made that, moron
(1:38:21 AM) Keith: Well, I am the webmaster, you said its webmaster made.
(1:38:28 AM) ARS - Bryan: uh
(1:38:37 AM) ARS - Bryan: man, i can see it no use even trying to talk to you
(1:38:39 AM) Keith: I'm also the affiliate, too.
(1:40:21 AM) Keith: So, are you going to remove the suspension from my account, since you admit there is an issue, or are you going to take the position that I am this, that and the other?
(1:41:34 AM) Keith: Because let me tell you something, I am tired of blogging stuff and then having to pull it down because the sponsor is a dick about one or more things. Takes a while to crop all of the images, lay out the posts, etc. Its a waste of time if I just pull it down a couple of days later.
(1:41:38 AM) ARS - Bryan: I'd actually like to see a public apology on the board from you first, then I will do the same. I want you to also take down the offending article on your site and then I will remove your suspension
(1:42:12 AM) ARS - Bryan: I understand that blogging is hard work and I don't want you to have to remove everything and start all over. I want you to come out and apologize and I will do the same and then everything will be okay
(1:42:38 AM) ARS - Bryan: however I'd like you to take care of this in the morning as it's not 2:43am my time and I need to get to bed
(1:44:26 AM) Keith: Well, that I will not be doing. First off, I have nothing to apologize for. The issue did exist, even if I called it an FHG instead of a BYOT site. Because its factual, the post is not coming down, either. I will apologize for the error in calling it a FHG instead of a BYOT though.
(1:44:51 AM) Keith: We can chat about it in the morning, if needed.
(1:46:40 AM) ARS - Bryan: ok, then I guess we can squash the beef
(1:46:54 AM) ARS - Bryan: you NEED to apologize on the boards
(1:47:30 AM) ARS - Bryan: you posted a ridiculous thread and tried to start bullshit with a good, honest, reputable sponsor who's been around for a very, very long time
(1:47:54 AM) ARS - Bryan: why bite the hand the feeds you? I guess no good deed goes unpunished
(1:49:22 AM) Keith: I offered to correct the incorrect statement.
(1:49:39 AM) ARS - Bryan: I guess we'll just have to talk in the morning
(1:49:46 AM) Keith: OK, very well.
(2:07:33 AM) Keith: Hey, are you still on? Someone sent me something I'd like to hear your take on. You mentioned shaving, it looks like you all do that, too.

Originally Posted by #php on Efnet - Thu Sep 27 00:00:00 2007

<alpha232> lol
<alpha232> ^trickee: your company strictly online porn?
<^trickee> yes
<Maxaon> alpha is seeking employment as a fluffer
<alpha232> Maxaon: bullshit
<Maxaon> lol
<^trickee> howm long did you work for ars maxaon?
<alpha232> i've fluffed Kevin Brown, Tyler Marks, Billy Brandt (before he flopped)
<alpha232> umm Roman Heart
<^trickee> alpha232 spare us, really
<Maxaon> I've worked with Marc De on a contract basis
<alpha232> lol
<^trickee> ah
<Maxaon> as an expert on cheating and fraud prevention
<^trickee> you live in michigan or remote?
<parateq> anyone know a decent site that sells cell phones?
<Maxaon> no I don't leave near Kalamazoo or even in MI
<Maxaon> you should've seen the ARS scripts
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<Maxaon> there is a constant there which basically tells it to count only 2/3 of signups after a certain point
<Maxaon> Adult Revenue Service
<ffth> guys, whats the cheapest place to buy a .com domain? only want the domain to link to my webhost
<Ruxton> pitty it was Adult Revenue Service Electronique ;)
<Ruxton> *want
<Ruxton> grr! *wasnt
<^trickee> marc de sold it though
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<Ruxton> ffth: godaddy?
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<Maxaon> yeah, the most amazing thing is that all the sites are pretty much content empty
<ffth> okies
<Maxaon> it's only splash pages
<^trickee> heh
<^trickee> well
<^trickee> he did alright
<^trickee> has quite a car collection
<Maxaon> he did VERY WELL
<ffth> when i choose domain name is it good to have a word in there that is searched alot on google?
<Ruxton> yes
<ffth> ok goodie
<Ruxton> if you're trying to reach a good page rank, then try and choose a domain that has a keyword u'd expect people to search for to find u
<ffth> cool
<Maxaon> he ripped off webmasters ,surfers ,employees and they all thanked him for it
<Maxaon> fucking genius
<^trickee> i only met him once
<^trickee> he was quite pompous
<^trickee> i ~18 and he was ~21 and already big
<Maxaon> he is a genius, he fucks everyone and they thank him
<Maxaon> I was 14 when I worked for them
<^trickee> heh
<Maxaon> no one knew though
<^trickee> his whole crew was young
<^trickee> cause he was
<Maxaon> I worked for babenet
<^trickee> i hung out wiht his staff cause we all couldnt drink
<Maxaon> but they found out my age somehow
<^trickee> lol
<^trickee> babenet
<renesis> hey is there a php function to find out if a point in XY space in inside a triangle, given three corner points
<^trickee> they disappeared
<Maxaon> remember extreme.babenet.com shit?
<Maxaon> waaaay back
<^trickee> yeah
<Maxaon> good times, good times
<^trickee> babenet used to give free blowjobs to webmasters at the shows
<Maxaon> yeah yeah
<Maxaon> you know Roman Kogan?
<^trickee> no
<Maxaon> n/m then
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<renesis> thats kinda scary
<Maxaon> they hired whores to give blowjobs
<alpha232> whats the deal with the name Trixx and sweeden
<renesis> well i guess webmasters are pretty hardcore (eheh)
<Maxaon> they do fun stuff at adult entertainment expos
<^trickee> Maxaon its not like that anymore..
<^trickee> parties arent even at strip clubs anymore..
<Maxaon> the vegas expo was nice
<^trickee> shows are a lot smaller too
<Maxaon> trickee you work for pornholio or something?
<^trickee> no, but the owner was my boss at one point at a different company
<Ruxton> LOL a guy on our office use to work for babenet
<Maxaon> we should have a reunion:P
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<^trickee> heh
<Ruxton> apparently the company that owned it was alchemy communications, a data centre?
<Maxaon> I also used to run icewarez heh and make good affil money

Originally Posted by RudeBoy

minusonebit maybe an idiot but you shouldn't have terminated his acct. that's just silly.