I was under the impression RAPE was illegal

[igotmeg]

So why have I found REAL rape videos on random traffic sites? I would post the links but I don't think I should. Is this legal to do?
And when I say real I mean screaming, crying, screaming no. This isn't acting. The men are masked.
Honestly I love porn. I love people enjoying themselves. Even playing into the whole forceful shit is cool but this made me sick to my stomach. And if it's illegal can I report it??

[wanted]

Fake isn't

[pornlaw]

If its evidence of a crime of course report it, but how can you be sure its rape ?

[L-Pink]

Very few people tape a major felony then show it to the public.

[ronaldo]

Of course if it's legal you can report it, but be aware that there are some GOOD fake rape videos out there where of course the woman is crying and screaming no. If they weren't, it wouldn't look much like a rape.

I just don't see someone raping someone and putting it online and risking being ID'd...whether they're masked or not.

[FredIsMe]

I think, for the most part, it's good acting, but there are some incidences where you'll find actual rape video(s).

[igotmeg]

She is fisted in her asshole with tears screaming no and on another one the girl runs away crying. Limp bodies. Forced to do everything. I mean how much more proof do you need. And where can I report it?

[igotmeg]

OK PM me for a link.

[igotmeg]

Anyone?>

[Bojangles]

It's probably fake. If she took a fist up her asshole without going absolutely nuts and bleeding every where, it's fake. Some serious stretching has to go on before you can accept a whole fist up your asshole.

[Zango]

those crazy japanese . . .

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by Zango

those crazy japanese . . .

[mrwilson]

it's most likely staged shit, no country would allow it.
Even if the site was put up it would soon be taken down.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by wanted

Fake isn't

[igotmeg]

Ok well i think it's sick and if it's sick to the point where i can't tell if it's fake isn't that pushing the limit too much and WHERE CAN I REPORT it to have it taken down? the webmaster has no contact info. maybe i am making too big of a deal about this but oh well. i like ALL porn except this ONE video.

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by igotmeg

Ok well i think it's sick and if it's sick to the point where i can't tell if it's fake isn't that pushing the limit too much and WHERE CAN I REPORT it to have it taken down? the webmaster has no contact info. maybe i am making too big of a deal about this but oh well. i like ALL porn except this ONE video.

So, would you be wanting it down even if you KNEW it was fake because YOU don't like it and it's pushing the limits to YOU?

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Very few people tape a major felony then show it to the public.

Sure, in the US. But what about the Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and other places?

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

most of the time when you look closely you will see that the same performers appear over and over in those very violent scenes... sometimes the girls are lesser known bondage/bdsm models. sometimes they come from a pool of girls from somewhere in eastern europe (i think) and these seem to be done by one or two companies who have a recognizable style of filming things. If you want to send me the link (info in sig) I will take a look and see if I recognize the girl.

[pornask]

if consenting adults voluntarily agree on performing certain activities, there's nothing illegal about it. Look at it this way - if you have a partner who likes to get tied up as part of sexual play, it's not illegal restraint. But if you take someone against their will and tie them up to hold them hostage, that would be illegal. You would perform exactly the same things on each of them, only in first case it is a simulated restraint with full consent of your partner, whereas in other it is against their will. Same with rape. If you have a partner who gets off on being treated like shit, beaten, and fucked as if you were raping her (there are girls like that out there) there is nothing illegal about it.

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

So, would you be wanting it down even if you KNEW it was fake because YOU don't like it and it's pushing the limits to YOU?

Exactly...

[igotmeg]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

So, would you be wanting it down even if you KNEW it was fake because YOU don't like it and it's pushing the limits to YOU?

I NEVER said I knew it was fake. In fact I'm still convinced it is REAL.
http://www.tehvids.com/view-content/...d-men_281.html
And if it is fake I will drop this.

And this is just sad at the end when she cries. Yea. So if you think this is cute I feel sorry for you.
http://nonk.nonk.info/hosted/1307/ja...e-concert.html

[tony286]

I would say both are fake.

[sysk]

so... what's the verdict

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by igotmeg

I NEVER said I knew it was fake. In fact I'm still convinced it is REAL.
http://www.tehvids.com/view-content/...d-men_281.html
And if it is fake I will drop this.

And this is just sad at the end when she cries. Yea. So if you think this is cute I feel sorry for you.
http://nonk.nonk.info/hosted/1307/ja...e-concert.html

Please show me where I said you DID know it was a fake.

I just asked you a question.

[igotmeg]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

Please show me where I said you DID know it was a fake.

I just asked you a question.

When you said, "So, would you be wanting it down even if you KNEW..." I'm not trying to jump on you about it. If it's fake I'm wrong, I can admit it. I found a video I thought was real, it turned my stomach, I asked these boards. And if I were to report something and it was fake they wouldn't remove it anyways. Maybe I over reacted? I was just concerned. I still think they are real. And then my heart breaks to even think about these little girls who are forced into it by their family etc. for money... but that's life.

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by igotmeg

When you said, "So, would you be wanting it down even if you KNEW..." I'm not trying to jump on you about it. If it's fake I'm wrong, I can admit it. I found a video I thought was real, it turned my stomach, I asked these boards. And if I were to report something and it was fake they wouldn't remove it anyways. Maybe I over reacted? I was just concerned. I still think they are real. And then my heart breaks to even think about these little girls who are forced into it by their family etc. for money... but that's life.

The key there was "WOULD you" in the form of a question. Not "You WOULD" in the form of a statement.

Regardless, if the video IS real, then you're absolutely correct in that it should be removed.

IF however it IS fake, whether you or I like it or not (I don't and didn't click on the link in fact because I have no desire to see it), BECAUSE it's an act between consenting adults, it's actually something that anyone in our industry should at the very least DEFEND. I don't like extremeassociates content, but defend their right to produce it...and that wasn't always the case.

[igotmeg]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

The key there was "WOULD you" in the form of a question. Not "You WOULD" in the form of a statement.

Regardless, if the video IS real, then you're absolutely correct in that it should be removed.

IF however it IS fake, whether you or I like it or not (I don't and didn't click on the link in fact because I have no desire to see it), BECAUSE it's an act between consenting adults, it's actually something that anyone in our industry should at the very least DEFEND. I don't like extremeassociates content, but defend their right to produce it...and that wasn't always the case.

Agreed. And yes I clicked on it out of curiosity cuz I'm not against anything consented upon :P Just this struck me as WOW! ew! and help.

[minusonebit]

There are plenty of simulated sites out there and some of them are very good with crying and screaming and yelling and I have even seen guns used in some of them now. Hey, if thats what gets you off, go for it.

[igotmeg]

ER now can someone plz give me a link or suggestion so I can feel better by turning this video over to a higher power to decide it's fate??

[sortie]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Very few people tape a major felony then show it to the public.

Ever hear of internet CP?

[darnit]

This reminds me of the Taxi Cab Confessions episode where that black girl just got out of filming a "snuff" film. She said they were sold to very wealthy individuals and the realism they created were indistinguishable from the real thing.... to the point that the buyer thought they were really getting what they paid for.

[iSMOKE]

Fake or not, its trashy. Im sure some men would want to see that but fuck them. That could inspire them to run out and do something they've been thinking about doing for a long time. Rape vids should be banned and treated as beast/child porn. just my 2cents.

[fatfoo]

that sucks...

[sortie]

Originally Posted by igotmeg

I NEVER said I knew it was fake. In fact I'm still convinced it is REAL.
http://www.tehvids.com/view-content/...d-men_281.html
And if it is fake I will drop this.

And this is just sad at the end when she cries. Yea. So if you think this is cute I feel sorry for you.
http://nonk.nonk.info/hosted/1307/ja...e-concert.html

Dude this is so fake. This shit is made in japan and there are tons of these fake videos out there. Not much you can do.

[iSMOKE]

looks fake to me dude, not saying it is but if it is real...shes a dumb bitch. All it would take is biting off one cock to stop the rest. lol

[pornask]

Originally Posted by darnit

This reminds me of the Taxi Cab Confessions episode where that black girl just got out of filming a "snuff" film. She said they were sold to very wealthy individuals and the realism they created were indistinguishable from the real thing.... to the point that the buyer thought they were really getting what they paid for.

Ever seen any of the Guinea Pig movies? Charley Sheen (he's a tool) seen one of them and reported it to FBI cause it was so realistic he had no doubt that was a real snuff movie. Guinea Pig are a series of Japanese gore movie form the 80s. They were pretty good considering they were made in the 80s.

BTW - when Charley Sheen tool reported it to the FBI, the movies became famous and made the creators a lot of money. That was the best PR those guys could have possibly asked for.

[.~.]

I once saw a rape video and I am certain it was real. It involved Juicy D. Links and another man and there was crying and screaming and some physical struggle. For a while I thought it was fake because it seemed like they both wanted man on man action, but the more I watched it, the more evidence I saw that it was genuine.
There was blood, screaming, crying, tears, and when you see the look on their faces, you know for a fact it was real. I reported it to the police.

[iSMOKE]

Originally Posted by .~.

I once saw a rape video and I am certain it was real. It involved Juicy D. Links and another man and there was crying and screaming and some physical struggle. For a while I thought it was fake because it seemed like they both wanted man on man action, but the more I watched it, the more evidence I saw that it was genuine.
There was blood, screaming, crying, tears, and when you see the look on their faces, you know for a fact it was real. I reported it to the police.

[igotmeg]

Originally Posted by sortie

Dude this is so fake. This shit is made in japan and there are tons of these fake videos out there. Not much you can do.

Fake to an extent. You don't believe some of these girl are sold into this sort of thing and forced to do it? By their family, the only people they trust? For probably beans. But like I said, it's life. And I don't like it so maybe people should speak up more.
This sucks.

[xentech]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

Of course if it's legal you can report it, but be aware that there are some GOOD fake rape videos out there where of course the woman is crying and screaming no. If they weren't, it wouldn't look much like a rape.

I just don't see someone raping someone and putting it online and risking being ID'd...whether they're masked or not.

Well, theres child porn online? Why would they risk that? Same shit...

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by igotmeg

ER now can someone plz give me a link or suggestion so I can feel better by turning this video over to a higher power to decide it's fate??

guilty until proven innocent? there are literally hundreds of mainstream movies out there with graphic, real looking rape scenes if you go by the actress performance. If it disturbs you, don't watch it! Some of us don't like to see bukkake either. And we all know how much the chicks like that.

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by iSMOKE

Fake or not, its trashy. Im sure some men would want to see that but fuck them. That could inspire them to run out and do something they've been thinking about doing for a long time. Rape vids should be banned and treated as beast/child porn. just my 2cents.

Because YOU don't like it and think it's wrong? There is someone out there that will say the exact same thing about EVERY single porn niche produced. Should we shut down porn altogether? Or just the ones YOU don't like? Or the ones Joe down the street doesn't like?

I think shit like that is disgusting as well, but who are you and I to say what should be illegal? The day they listen to you and I, is the day they listen to someone who wants to ban gay, interracial, gangbang....

If you believe that watching a fake rape video will inspire someone to commit a rape, what are your feelings towards violent movies and video games? For the record, I DO think that both of those desensitize us, but to take it the next step and actually ACT on it? The problem runs much deeper than violent movies, video games AND fake rape videos.

[.~.]

ronaldo - I want to show you . . . my tool box.

[iSMOKE]

Originally Posted by ronaldo

Because YOU don't like it and think it's wrong? There is someone out there that will say the exact same thing about EVERY single porn niche produced. Should we shut down porn altogether? Or just the ones YOU don't like? Or the ones Joe down the street doesn't like?

I think shit like that is disgusting as well, but who are you and I to say what should be illegal? The day they listen to you and I, is the day they listen to someone who wants to ban gay, interracial, gangbang....

If you believe that watching a fake rape video will inspire someone to commit a rape, what are your feelings towards violent movies and video games? For the record, I DO think that both of those desensitize us, but to take it the next step and actually ACT on it? The problem runs much deeper than violent movies, video games AND fake rape videos.

I understand you dude. I guess im just looking at it like rape is illegal and one of the worst crimes a person can commit so why should someone be able to make $ legally producing films like that. Again, just my 2 pennies.

[xentech]

perversion is subjective, its all about perspective

[igotmeg]

There is one Asian video where the girl is coughing up water and looks unconscious, I bet off some public tv show. She keeps vomiting water then in a later scene she is being held up, naked, unconscious. More sickness to my tummy.
I've been to Asia,so many people no one cares about anyone else. Crazy shit. And I'm sure if a rape victim bit off a dickhead the other 3 men would kill her you tard :/

[Holly]

I hope not.

I only like it when you don't.

[D]

Not really my cup of tea, but I'd say that both are fake.

[jakethedog]

google The Guinea Pig films and see what similarities there might be .. pretty hard in this day and age to get away with real snuff style content

[fr0gman]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Very few people tape a major felony then show it to the public.

Yeah, that would be as stupid as driving 219 MPH down a public highway then posting the video to the internet. Nobody in their right mind would do something like that... wait.. never mind!