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Old 09-29-2002, 02:41 PM   #51
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I do not really care if Jesus existed or not. Actually I figure he probably did, I just question the fact that he was "the son of god."
and being 'born of a virgin' is a real hoot..

The old manuscripts referred to Mary as amah, which meant 'young woman'.. not 'virgin'..

Here was an assumption that because she was young, she was a virgin.. Lot's young'ns proved that this wasn't always the case..

Just another case where one word was replaced with another of a different meaning which changed the whole concept of the story..
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Old 09-29-2002, 02:41 PM   #52
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I usually just go once or twice a year but my female friend presuaded me to go... I'm happy I did. I feel like it's a new beginning... Just because I do this for a living doesn't make me a bad person or immoral, it's a means to get to the next stage in my life. Shit, I'm kinda deep right now. Melinda, from MelindaTeen.com is coming over and I'm taking her shopping. I can't wait

no offense there darlin, but how in the fuck does slinging porn not make you immoral? Please point out to me one religion other than satanism, where porn is 'ok'?

I could care less about religion, and all thatc rap, but it sure does seem mighty 2 faced of you to sling porn and then goto church also, and call yourself non-immoral. Im not trying to burst your bubble or start shit, but it is a fucking joke and you make me sick.

you are like one of those priests that acts all high and mighty, then on his off hours he is jerkin off in some adult book storre or getting head from some crack whore he paid $20 from the donation bucket.

fuck you, and fuck your morality.bitch.
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Old 09-29-2002, 02:46 PM   #53
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no offense there darlin, but how in the fuck does slinging porn not make you immoral? Please point out to me one religion other than satanism, where porn is 'ok'?

I could care less about religion, and all thatc rap, but it sure does seem mighty 2 faced of you to sling porn and then goto church also, and call yourself non-immoral. Im not trying to burst your bubble or start shit, but it is a fucking joke and you make me sick.

you are like one of those priests that acts all high and mighty, then on his off hours he is jerkin off in some adult book storre or getting head from some crack whore he paid $20 from the donation bucket.

fuck you, and fuck your morality.bitch.
I refuse to respond to you because you're an idiot. I've seen your responses on other threads and you're a joke. Grow up
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I refuse to respond to you because you're an idiot. I've seen your responses on other threads and you're a joke. Grow up
yeah good one.
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Old 09-29-2002, 02:54 PM   #56
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and being 'born of a virgin' is a real hoot..

The old manuscripts referred to Mary as amah, which meant 'young woman'.. not 'virgin'..

Here was an assumption that because she was young, she was a virgin.. Lot's young'ns proved that this wasn't always the case..

Just another case where one word was replaced with another of a different meaning which changed the whole concept of the story..
Yeah and then theres the whole Mary Magdalene thing. What the fuck is that all about?

http://www.magdalene.org/faq.htm

Another big can of worms.
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Old 09-29-2002, 03:01 PM   #57
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no offense there darlin, but how in the fuck does slinging porn not make you immoral? Please point out to me one religion other than satanism, where porn is 'ok'?
Speaking for myself..

I don't lust (a sin) after the women in the pics I use.. they're just tools of the trade..

I don't commit adultry with these gals, nor anyone else..

Now the guys on the receiving end of all of this may have a problem with sinnin & stuff..

Then again.. if you're gonna believe in it.. ya gotta believe in it all.. that means you sacrifice your first born, and if your bro dies, ya gotta get his widow pregnant.. and lots of other crazy things ya gotta do.. oh.. and the women are here strictly for the men.. no more job for the wife..

Gotta love it..
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uhhhhh

Does the word "sin" ring a bell?

You cannot work in porn, or work with porn and call yourself a Christian... period.

Dont make me bust out the Bible.
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Old 09-29-2002, 03:31 PM   #59
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no offense there darlin, but how in the fuck does slinging porn not make you immoral? Please point out to me one religion other than satanism, where porn is 'ok'?

I could care less about religion, and all thatc rap, but it sure does seem mighty 2 faced of you to sling porn and then goto church also, and call yourself non-immoral. Im not trying to burst your bubble or start shit, but it is a fucking joke and you make me sick.

you are like one of those priests that acts all high and mighty, then on his off hours he is jerkin off in some adult book storre or getting head from some crack whore he paid $20 from the donation bucket.

fuck you, and fuck your morality.bitch.
Ever heard of the word SINNER ?
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Yeah and then theres the whole Mary Magdalene thing. What the fuck is that all about?
Indeed..

Not to mention that anytime any writing is translated, things get messed up.. especially when the writing is without vowels or punctuation...

but if folks want to believe that the bible is flawless, then let em have at it..

Hell.. even the movie had a plane fly across the horizon while in the making... or was that the 10 Commandments?

Oh well.. Romans 13:1-7 pretty much says not to obey our govt.. so whatcha gonna do??
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Old 09-29-2002, 03:34 PM   #61
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Ever heard of the word SINNER ?
God hates the sin but loves the sinner..

Hmm.. can't remember where I heard that.. Touched by an Angel maybe?
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no offense there darlin, but how in the fuck does slinging porn not make you immoral? Please point out to me one religion other than satanism, where porn is 'ok'?

I could care less about religion, and all thatc rap, but it sure does seem mighty 2 faced of you to sling porn and then goto church also, and call yourself non-immoral. Im not trying to burst your bubble or start shit, but it is a fucking joke and you make me sick.

you are like one of those priests that acts all high and mighty, then on his off hours he is jerkin off in some adult book storre or getting head from some crack whore he paid $20 from the donation bucket.

fuck you, and fuck your morality.bitch.
Hey now what the hell is wrong with a $20.00 crack ho"?
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Old 09-29-2002, 03:37 PM   #63
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Where the hell have you been? Apparently, you know nothing about history of denominations. Tell a priest that Catholics aren't Christians. All protestant denominations are just break offs from the Catholic church. And, I am sorry, God does judge but ignorant asses like you don't. You can't say who's going to hell anymore than I can say whether or not the rumor that you give good head is true.
Tell a Mormon he isnt a Christian, tell a Koresh follower they are not Christian, tell a Christian Identity follower they are not Christian, tell a Moonie they are not Christian. They will all laugh in your face but that does not stop every "mainstream" church from labeling them "cults" and "unchristian".

Are Roman Catholics Christians? No they are not.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp

You can give a ****** a book, but you cant make him read. Case in point.

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Did you read what you wrote? Break offs. Martin Luther despised the Catholic Church dipshit. So to claim the end result of the Protestant Reformation is just some Catholic offshoot is absurd at best. Protestants are in NO way similar to Catholics.

You think the Catholic Church was the first "denomination" and all others are just offshoots? I seriously doubt even you are that ignorant.

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Old 09-29-2002, 03:39 PM   #64
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Honeyslut, lebret is right.. .theres no questioning that porn is a sin in the bible.

Matthew 5:28 "If a man looks on a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart."

Psalm 101:3 "I will set no unclean thing before my eyes."

Philippians 4:7, 8 "Keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus... Whatsover things are pure... if there be any virtue... think on these things."

Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."

1 Timothy 1:10 "For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine"

Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Revelation 22:15 "For without are dog, and sorcerers, and
whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

1 Corinthians 6:18 "Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. "
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Damn, I was gonna tackle that one after I got done taking a grunt.

Like scripture had to even be quoted.

Anyone delusional enough to believe they can work in porn and be Christian / Jew / Muslim is in serious need of some help.
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Tell a Mormon he isnt a Christian, tell a Koresh follower they are not Christian, tell a Christian Identity follower they are not Christian, tell a Moonie they are not Christian. They will all laugh in your face but that does not stop every "mainstream" church from labeling them "cults" and "unchristian".

Gots to agree with that one all the way.......
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is it just me or does that chick not look like a teen at all? melindateen.com...... not only is the domain name attempting to reinforce it, but I think she looks like 25
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is it just me or does that chick not look like a teen at all? melindateen.com...... not only is the domain name attempting to reinforce it, but I think she looks like 25
Dude, she's really 19 but I've got her as 18 on her site... I've known her for almost 2 yrs. You're the first person to think she's older... I'll tell her that
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why does nobody understand that saying you are a christian makes you a christian.

being a christian is about trying to live like christ

he certainly would not be holding up signs saying he hates fags, those people, no matter what they claim to be, are not truly christians

people like that make all you people hate christianity, thats pretty sad
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why does nobody understand that saying you are a christian makes you a christian.
Hmmm. I would like to think that if you call yourself a Christian, one would at least be familiar with the Bible. Its rules and regulations.

I cannot call myself a Christian and molest children, fuck animals, and hump other men. The Christian rule book says I cannot.

You are all Christians out of convenience. I get the feeling most of you would fail a basic Bible quiz. Obviously, as you are all clueless on basic biblical doctrine and history.

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he certainly would not be holding up signs saying he hates fags, those people, no matter what they claim to be, are not truly christians


Lev 20:13 says to kill homosexuals. Do you think Jesus would say that the rules that his father passed down are false and wrong? And since many Christians believe that Jesus is in fact God, that would make Jesus the supreme hypocrite.

Which is it convenient Christians?
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Lev 20:13 says to kill homosexuals. Do you think Jesus would say that the rules that his father passed down are false and wrong? And since many Christians believe that Jesus is in fact God, that would make Jesus the supreme hypocrite.

Which is it convenient Christians? [/B]
It also says that anyone that works on a Sabbath should be put to death...
Exodus 31:15
"Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. "

AND if you wanna quote Moses...then you can't shave your beard or cut your hair, dumbass.
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This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

To your comments about who is a Christian and who's not....The Bible says...
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: "

God is love, dude. God hates no one. Apparently, you don't know Jesus too well. People like you are the reason most people don't go to church.
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God is love, dude. God hates no one. Apparently, you don't know Jesus too well. People like you are the reason most people don't go to church.
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AND if you wanna quote Moses...then you can't shave your beard or cut your hair, dumbass.
Leviticus 19 :27 21:5
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I usually just go once or twice a year but my female friend presuaded me to go... I'm happy I did. I feel like it's a new beginning... Just because I do this for a living doesn't make me a bad person or immoral, it's a means to get to the next stage in my life. Shit, I'm kinda deep right now. Melinda, from MelindaTeen.com is coming over and I'm taking her shopping. I can't wait
It just means you're a hypocrite. Make your choice: religion which isn't friendly to what you do, or else do what you do. WTF is riding the fence all about?
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I have been sitting here reading the post from people who claim that you can not be a christian and be in the porn industry. I have a little something to say about that , haveyou people ever really read your bible? The bible is filled with stories of inccest, rape, prostitution, homosexuallity, and group sex just to name a few catagories that quote unquote christians say are pornographic. As an ordained minister I have much love for all people , unless they try and force their oppinions upon others. Going to church does not make someone a christian what they have in their heart does.
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I have been sitting here reading the post from people who claim that you can not be a christian and be in the porn industry. I have a little something to say about that , haveyou people ever really read your bible? The bible is filled with stories of inccest, rape, prostitution, homosexuallity, and group sex just to name a few catagories that quote unquote christians say are pornographic. As an ordained minister I have much love for all people , unless they try and force their oppinions upon others. Going to church does not make someone a christian what they have in their heart does.



I brought up the point that he said he was a moral person, and he infact is immoral by doing what he does. err he.. whatever sweetcuties is.

every single one of us break atleast 3 deadly sins per day.. think about it.

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I have been sitting here reading the post from people who claim that you can not be a christian and be in the porn industry. I have a little something to say about that , haveyou people ever really read your bible? The bible is filled with stories of inccest, rape, prostitution, homosexuallity, and group sex just to name a few catagories that quote unquote christians say are pornographic. As an ordained minister I have much love for all people , unless they try and force their oppinions upon others. Going to church does not make someone a christian what they have in their heart does.
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ok FORPLAZ... this scripture:

"Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death"

is not literal... see thats what a lot of you people don't understand... ITS NOT LITERAL. It is very vague due to translation. translation = confusion, obviously. Death in the bible doesn't always mean a PHYSICAL death, it means a SPIRITUAL death.

And reverenedPOON... you can't be a true christian if you're into porn. did you not see the many scriptures I posted about it? And if you think you CAN be a christian if you're into porn, then you're just another one of those people who try and MOLD the the religion to fit your own interests.

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It also says that anyone that works on a Sabbath should be put to death...
Exodus 31:15
"Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. "

AND if you wanna quote Moses...then you can't shave your beard or cut your hair, dumbass.
Leviticus 19 :27 21:5
"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. "
"They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh. "

Jesus said...
Matthew 22:36-40
"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

To your comments about who is a Christian and who's not....The Bible says...
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: "

God is love, dude. God hates no one. Apparently, you don't know Jesus too well. People like you are the reason most people don't go to church.
Gotta love the convenient christians who pick and choose what they want from the Bible and discard what they do not like. What is not touchy feely enough or cannot be somehow bent to conform to their lifestyles.

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God hates no one.


Tell that to the poor bastards at Sodom and Gomorrah. Tell that to the Canaanites...

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Joshua 10:40-41: "So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."


Must have been out of love.

As for your quotes from Leviticus regarding hair cutting and working on the Sabbath day, some people still follow those rules (minus the death penalty), they are called Hassidic.

If by pointing those out you were somehow trying to prove that OT law is absurd, you are preaching to the converted.

You are the one trying to convince people that its ok to pick and choose what you want from your own Holy Book.

Go down to the local Rabbi and tell him that Moses was not putting forth the inspired word of God in Leviticus.

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" You must love Hashem your God, which means obeying His instructions, and clinging to Him, for that is your life and your survival...." (Deuteronomy 30:19-20).


Unless you are Forplaz, then you just make it up as you go along.


"God is love". Just dont piss him off. And you better believe because if you do not you will be punished for eternity. He does it because he loves you.

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Old 09-29-2002, 10:41 PM   #85
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And if you read the bible it says that chritians are to be nonjudgemental and to love our fellow man no mater his faults. Yet here you are doing both so by using your own logic you are not a christian either. But as for me I am truely an ordained minister and feel that there is enough room in this world for all of us . So lets just try and get along while we are here.
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a strong left jab to the jaw by Forplaz
Simple things impress simple minds.
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That sums it up pretty nicely.
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I never said I was a christian... I'm agnostic. But what i'm saying is the people who are into pornography are not true christians. Scroll up and read the quotes i posted directly from the bible. If a person is to live by the bible, then that person won't be involved in pornography, thats all i'm saying.
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And if you read the bible it says that chritians are to be nonjudgemental and to love our fellow man no mater his faults. Yet here you are doing both so by using your own logic you are not a christian either. But as for me I am truely an ordained minister and feel that there is enough room in this world for all of us . So lets just try and get along while we are here.
Luke 17:3: "Take heed to yourselves; if your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him" .


re·buke Pronunciation Key (r-byk)
tr.v. re·buked, re·buk·ing, re·bukes
To criticize or reprove sharply;

I am rebuking you. Jesus said it was ok.

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uhhhhh

Does the word "sin" ring a bell?

You cannot work in porn, or work with porn and call yourself a Christian... period.

Dont make me bust out the Bible.
But I believe
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ok FORPLAZ... this scripture:

"Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death"

is not literal... see thats what a lot of you people don't understand... ITS NOT LITERAL. It is very vague due to translation. translation = confusion, obviously. Death in the bible doesn't always mean a PHYSICAL death, it means a SPIRITUAL death.

And reverenedPOON... you can't be a true christian if you're into porn. did you not see the many scriptures I posted about it? And if you think you CAN be a christian if you're into porn, then you're just another one of those people who try and MOLD the the religion to fit your own interests.
I was responding to Labret w/his comment about killing homosexuals. Pay attention. If it's not necessarily literal for my scripture than it's not necessarily literal on his. And i am not going to argue this point w/you anymore. It means physical death, not spiritual.
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
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Simple things impress simple minds.
Yes you are impressed
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Yes you are impressed
Impressed by what exactly.
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Impressed by what exactly.
Simple things
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Simple things
Like your inability to construct a simple argument to prove a point?
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Unless you are Forplaz, then you just make it up as you go along.


"God is love". Just dont piss him off. And you better believe because if you do not you will be punished for eternity. He does it because he loves you. [/B]

And I love Christian haters that think they know everything about God, and the Bible when they really have no clue at all what they are talking about. You are just as bad at picking and choosing verses. Sounds to me that you are picking and choosing scriptures to justify why you don't serve a "hateful" God, when really he is not hateful at all. "His mercy endureth forever."
Don't assume anything about my beliefs. We could be here forever discussing this. Don't put words in my mouth either. God is love. God did destroy alot of people in the old testament for sins, but things have changed.
Romans 8:1-2, 10
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."
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Like your inability to construct a simple argument to prove a point?
Relax dude, peace
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Romans 8:1-2, 10
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."
Paul wrote that. Who cares what Paul thinks. Paul is not the be all end all of Christian thought. A few years previous he was wandering the countryside killing Christians.

Using Paul as a source for what God is and what God is not is a joke. You might as well quote Billy Graham or Benny Hinn.
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Paul wrote that. Who cares what Paul thinks. Paul is not the be all end all of Christian thought. A few years previous he was wandering the countryside killing Christians.

Using Paul as a source for what God is and what God is not is a joke. You might as well quote Billy Graham or Benny Hinn.
Then why are we debating this? If you can't use Paul, then why use Moses? Or why use any scripture at all? When it comes down to it... you don't know...i don't know...no one really knows... we are not going to change anyone's opinions by debating this... i still think like i do and you still think like you do
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Basically, it comes down to this...if you ain't got something nice to say, then don't say it at all... telling someone that they are going to hell, is not gonna change the way they think, it only pisses them off.
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