Whats this NATS thing about? - GoFuckYourself.com

Damian_Maxcash · 12-22-2007, 08:45 PM

I didnt read any of the threads before, now I have I am a little concerned....

However there are pages of this stuff.....

Whats the short story?

seeric · 12-22-2007, 08:47 PM

its a long story. a really long one.

Damian_Maxcash · 12-22-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

its a long story. a really long one.

Well I trust you - should I worry?

JOKER · 12-22-2007, 08:49 PM

Just read it. Please.

And stop opening new threads, it's hard enough to monitor the ones there are as is.

Thanx

seeric · 12-22-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Well I trust you - should I worry?

its a pretty hairy situation. it really is best to read the threads though.

on a scale of 1-5 in seriousness, its a solid 5. sounds like all hands on deck at TMM. not sure how it will play out, but lets cross our fingers.

Damian_Maxcash · 12-22-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

Just read it. Please.

And stop opening new threads, it's hard enough to monitor the ones there are as is.

Thanx

Thats fine if you followed it from the begining - but I dont know where to start!?

spacedog · 12-22-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Thats fine if you followed it from the begining - but I dont know where to start!?

Start with contacting John directly.

pocketkangaroo · 12-22-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

Thats fine if you followed it from the begining - but I dont know where to start!?

This is the thread that started it all:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/793881-paycom-nats-spamming.html

Damian_Maxcash · 12-22-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

This is the thread that started it all:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/793881-paycom-nats-spamming.html

Shit - I will make that my light read in the morning.

Damian_Maxcash · 12-22-2007, 09:25 PM

I have read some more - I will refrain from telling you I told you so......

But I did - years ago...

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 12-22-2007, 10:05 PM

fuck. i was hoping for the cliffs notes.

teksonline · 12-22-2007, 10:14 PM

Here is the short summary as I have percieved it.

Over the past several days suspicions have been arising that
Nats software /or some Proccessor in use of this system
has possibly been compromised or is in
part of a conspiracy of spamming emails of those who join up
for their services, both as affiliate as as customers

I believe it has been repeatably denied by TMM owner Pbucksjohn
over the last few days that Nats has any problem that they were "aware" of

However, as it unfolded tonite, it actually turns out that
supposedly the Nats software had the same admin account forced to be used
by TMM on all clients servers so every Nats isntallation was accessible via
this supposed admin password.. In short, I am guessing they sacrficed security for convienence. not sure but perhaps more inidivual passwords were used but perhaps the database was somehow comprimised for ALL clients??
Still guessing here

Anyhow... from what I gather, although TMM / Nats was denying anything
relates to them has known that their server was hacked and this
admin info has been being abused (at this point who knows if its internal or a hackjob)

From what I gather pbucksjohn has been going around threatning lawsuits to some affiliate runners over on the OC3 hosting services who are aware and have been talking about this exploit???

From what I gather he has also been threating minusbitone here a lawsuit about I dunno what, prolly the same garbage.

Just recently Pbucksjohn has now confirmed someone supposedly hacked their server adn got this admin account and is able to access all Nats
systems in the world. Which i guess would give them complete access
to all DB info, and who knows what else....... for all Nats systems in use

But yet all this Nats systems have been fixed several days to weeks ago.. so someone has been lying thru theyre teeph..... you can handle the rest of the analyzatio and how this affects you

notoldschool · 12-22-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

Here is the short summary as I have percieved it.

Over the past several days suspicions have been arising that
Nats software /or some Proccessor in use of this system
has possibly been compromised or is in
part of a conspiracy of spamming emails of those who join up
for their services, both as affiliate as as customers

I believe it has been repeatably denied by TMM owner Pbucksjohn
over the last few days that Nats has any problem that they were "aware" of

However, as it unfolded tonite, it actually turns out that
supposedly the Nats software had the same admin account forced to be used
by TMM on all clients servers so every Nats isntallation was accessible via
this supposed admin password.. In short, I am guessing they sacrficed security for convienence. not sure but perhaps more inidivual passwords were used but perhaps the database was somehow comprimised for ALL clients??
Still guessing here

Anyhow... from what I gather, although TMM / Nats was denying anything
relates to them has known that their server was hacked and this
admin info has been being abused (at this point who knows if its internal or a hackjob)

From what I gather pbucksjohn has been going around threatning lawsuits to some affiliate runners over on the OC3 hosting services who are aware and have been talking about this exploit???

From what I gather he has also been threating minusbitone here a lawsuit about I dunno what, prolly the same garbage.

Just recently Pbucksjohn has now confirmed someone supposedly hacked their server adn got this admin account and is able to access all Nats
systems in the world. Which i guess would give them complete access
to all DB info, and who knows what else....... for all Nats systems in use

But yet all this Nats systems have been fixed several days to weeks ago.. so someone has been lying thru theyre teeph..... you can handle the rest of the analyzatio and how this affects you

You are a fucking asshole. Get a life and stop trying to fuck with the adult biz. Im almost certian you are just a top secret christian coalition member planted here at gfy to cause dissent in our industry. Give it up.

teksonline · 12-22-2007, 10:21 PM

im an asshole, but im connected to a network of assholes that will eat you alive

nico-t · 12-22-2007, 10:22 PM

interesting... btw kinda unrelated point: Always when there's a nats thread they say you can't shave with nats. When i say in those threads that i severely doubt that any system, including the NATS system, is 'unshavable' i always get shit from everybody. Fucking funny in my opinion: Every piece of software can be modified. When people say that NATS is the only softare in the world that can't be modified they sound moronic.

notoldschool · 12-22-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by teksonline

im an asshole, but im connected to a network of assholes that will eat you alive

are you trying to hurt peoples biz is my question? There are too many people who provide for their famalies that you threaten with every post aimed at making adult look worse. Those are the facts. Why the need to tear away at our industry?

minusonebit · 12-22-2007, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I didnt read any of the threads before, now I have I am a little concerned....

However there are pages of this stuff.....

Whats the short story?

Cliff Notes on TMM/NATS Hack Attack:

NATS/TMM got hacked back in October. All NATS data including sales info, webmaster info was apparently exposed and possibly stolen. They tried to cover it up. When OC3 Networks called them on it, they released a statement basically blaming the criminals and saying it really wasn't thier fault. John threatened to sue me for talking about it on GFY. Trust NATS/TMM, they are working on trying to find a way to fix it several months after the fact now that is public knowledge. They are sorry, and it was "a real eye opener".

minusonebit · 12-22-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

fuck. i was hoping for the cliffs notes.

Cliff Notes on TMM/NATS Hack Attack:

NATS/TMM got hacked back in October. All NATS data including sales info, webmaster info was apparently exposed and possibly stolen. They tried to cover it up. When OC3 Networks called them on it, they released a statement basically blaming the criminals and saying it really wasn't thier fault. John threatened to sue me for talking about it on GFY. Trust NATS/TMM, they are working on trying to find a way to fix it several months after the fact now that is public knowledge. They are sorry, and it was "a real eye opener".

teksonline · 12-22-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

are you trying to hurt peoples biz is my question? There are too many people who provide for their famalies that you threaten with every post aimed at making adult look worse. Those are the facts. Why the need to tear away at our industry?

What do I threaten? I listen to a fool lie thru his teeth. I tell fool to shutup
Fool think he above world, try to play bar muscle game on forum.
Easy to call bluff, many have before, not scared of bar muscle.
If you use bar muscle, you must have balls to go all the way, of course going all the way is what the Bluff caller wants.. Person still lie more. Truth come out, and person try to act as a savior, alst whilst still throwing bar muscle around..

What the fuck this has to do with industry?

Guy basically is saying, im an idiot please shoot me... But let's keep doing business

12-22-2007, 08:45 PM	#1
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12-22-2007, 08:49 PM	#4
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12-22-2007, 10:05 PM	#11
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	fuck. i was hoping for the cliffs notes. __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

12-22-2007, 08:47 PM	#2
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	its a long story. a really long one.

12-22-2007, 09:25 PM	#10
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	I have read some more - I will refrain from telling you I told you so...... But I did - years ago...

12-22-2007, 10:14 PM	#12
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	Here is the short summary as I have percieved it. Over the past several days suspicions have been arising that Nats software /or some Proccessor in use of this system has possibly been compromised or is in part of a conspiracy of spamming emails of those who join up for their services, both as affiliate as as customers I believe it has been repeatably denied by TMM owner Pbucksjohn over the last few days that Nats has any problem that they were "aware" of However, as it unfolded tonite, it actually turns out that supposedly the Nats software had the same admin account forced to be used by TMM on all clients servers so every Nats isntallation was accessible via this supposed admin password.. In short, I am guessing they sacrficed security for convienence. not sure but perhaps more inidivual passwords were used but perhaps the database was somehow comprimised for ALL clients?? Still guessing here Anyhow... from what I gather, although TMM / Nats was denying anything relates to them has known that their server was hacked and this admin info has been being abused (at this point who knows if its internal or a hackjob) From what I gather pbucksjohn has been going around threatning lawsuits to some affiliate runners over on the OC3 hosting services who are aware and have been talking about this exploit??? From what I gather he has also been threating minusbitone here a lawsuit about I dunno what, prolly the same garbage. Just recently Pbucksjohn has now confirmed someone supposedly hacked their server adn got this admin account and is able to access all Nats systems in the world. Which i guess would give them complete access to all DB info, and who knows what else....... for all Nats systems in use But yet all this Nats systems have been fixed several days to weeks ago.. so someone has been lying thru theyre teeph..... you can handle the rest of the analyzatio and how this affects you

12-22-2007, 10:21 PM	#14
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	im an asshole, but im connected to a network of assholes that will eat you alive

12-22-2007, 10:22 PM	#15
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	interesting... btw kinda unrelated point: Always when there's a nats thread they say you can't shave with nats. When i say in those threads that i severely doubt that any system, including the NATS system, is 'unshavable' i always get shit from everybody. Fucking funny in my opinion: Every piece of software can be modified. When people say that NATS is the only softare in the world that can't be modified they sound moronic.