Anti-Bush Protesters Prosecuted for ?Unauthorized Display of Sign? - GoFuckYourself.com

minusonebit · 12-07-2007, 01:02 PM

Jeff Zurawski and Sarah Hartfield had never even gone to a political demonstration before this year. But because they were outraged by Bush?s war, they went to Washington a couple of times and to Camp Casey once.

When they returned to their homes in DuPage County, Illinois, this spring, they decided to try to wake up their fellow citizens.

And so on May 6th, they went out onto the bridge over the North-South Highway and held a banner that said, ?IMPEACH Bush and Cheney?LIARS.? They also displayed a flag upside down.

?If I had the money to buy a billboard, I would but I don?t,? says Zurawski, a home inspector. ?So that?s what I came up with.?

They were there for about an hour and a half when a state trooper pulled up.

Full Story: http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc120607

Isn't this just lovely? Welcome to the PSA!

sortie · 12-07-2007, 01:05 PM

I hear you, but that is illegal no matter what the sign said.

See it works like this : "They didn't pay anybody so it is illegal".

Matt 26z · 12-07-2007, 01:22 PM

If it were me I would have tied up the banner and gotten out of there.

12clicks · 12-07-2007, 01:28 PM

I love it

Bryan G · 12-07-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I love it

You love having no freedom of speach???? wow wonderful

Pleasurepays · 12-07-2007, 01:45 PM

reaching much?

directfiesta · 12-07-2007, 02:10 PM

Yould they have been charged and arrested if the sign would of said:

" support our troops "

and

" Clinton is a liar ... "

?????

papill0n · 12-07-2007, 02:48 PM

is this some sort of joke?

escorpio · 12-07-2007, 02:59 PM

If they were from a backwards hick place like DeKalb county they should have known what to expect by displaying a sign calling our Commander in Chief a liar and flying the flag upside down. Might as well have made a sign that said "Fuck Jesus" while they were at it. I'm surprised they didn't get thrown off the overpass.

cool1 · 12-07-2007, 02:59 PM

cops can be such dicks

G-Rotica · 12-07-2007, 03:00 PM

Ugh, I can't believe the USA has come to this. and Naperville IL even. I know a lot of the cops there, guess it time to make a call and make some pigs feel real small.

DaddyHalbucks · 12-07-2007, 03:00 PM

GWB is a good guy, but the protesters deserve a right to be heard.

"Illegal sign" ordinances were designed to control commercial speech --not political speech (usually referred to as "free speech.")

mikeyddddd · 12-07-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

...but the protesters deserve a right to be heard.

You may be salvageable after all.

cherrylula · 12-07-2007, 03:21 PM

If you are going to protest, be sure to not be ignorant of laws while doing so.

V_RocKs · 12-07-2007, 04:02 PM

Mean while 2 guys got shot, countless drug deals went down, 3 daughters and two mothers, plus, one grandmother was raped.

Nice...

Way to pick your battles.

czarina · 12-07-2007, 04:06 PM

welcome to the new RED AMERICA!

directfiesta · 12-07-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

You may be salvageable after all.

Maybe his account was hacked ?????

DaddyHalbucks · 12-07-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

You may be salvageable after all.

Thanks Bro.

minusonebit · 12-07-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

You may be salvageable after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Maybe his account was hacked ?????

stev0 · 12-07-2007, 07:39 PM

That angry cop/war vet should be fired, an upside down flag might piss him off but he doesn't have a right to do anything about it.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-07-2007, 08:11 PM

too bad so sad , hanging shit on overpasses is illegal it always has been.

Theres a reason for it , it's dangerous to everyone else.

They took down signs honouring troops too.

I'm all for free speech , but not when it compromises my safety.

woj · 12-07-2007, 08:50 PM

If it wasn't for the cops they probably would have gotten beat up by someone anyway...

Pleasurepays · 12-07-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

GWB is a good guy, but the protesters deserve a right to be heard.

"Illegal sign" ordinances were designed to control commercial speech --not political speech (usually referred to as "free speech.")

thats total bullshit.

you can't hang shit off a bridge over a highway.. period. has nothing to do with what the sign says.

some of you other guys are so full of hate for Bush that you have lost all sense of reason. but please... go make a 20 ton steel sign with covered with spikes and broken glass and hang it off the bridge and use the argument "hey, this is protected speech and you have no right to tell me what kind of uninspected, unregulated, unsafe shit i can suspend over a busy freeway"

directfiesta · 12-08-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

thats total bullshit.

you can't hang shit off a bridge over a highway

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and held a banner

where do you get that hang thing ....

ronbotx · 12-08-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan

You love having no freedom of speach???? wow wonderful

Shouldn't you be tending to your pet spammers rather than making political commentary about someone else's country?

Pleasurepays · 12-08-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

where do you get that hang thing ....

"they held a sign"
"they displayed a flag"
"they were asked to take the sign down"

.... "a bridge over the north/south highway"

forget your political bias and total hatred for the US a moment.. or even the fact that you have no place in commenting on the article to begin with which is a far left website, citing no source other than two potestors and only giving 1/2 of the story. and lets forget the fact for a moment that these two anti-war protesters who unsprisingly add suspiciously colorful details like “He was clenching his teeth, and his veins were bulging out, and he was red-faced,” are intended to incite people like you to begin with and be reasonable.

its a bridge.

over a freeway.

2 large items

2 people

only 4 arms

the flag was "displayed" and the banner was "held"

he later says "they asked us to take the banner down" - "take it down" is not what you do when you are holding something, which indicates that most likely they are either lying or they did "hold" the banner and later hung it from the bridge.

circumstances?

how big were the banners? the flag? was it dangerous? any pics?

well... no one here knows... and as usual, no one here cares about the actual facts.

regardless of what anyone thinks or WANTS to believe. there are laws against this. its not "protected speech" ... and to use anyones logic in defending it, it means i can write "impeach bush" on a baby and dangle it over the freeway and calll it "protected speech"... oh wait, can't do that? why not? you mean laws and legality might come into play? but.. but...

directfiesta · 12-08-2007, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

"they held a sign"
"they displayed a flag"
"they were asked to take the sign down"

.... "a bridge over the north/south highway"

forget your political bias and total hatred for the US a moment.. or even the fact that you have no place in commenting on the article to begin with which is a far left website, citing no source other than two potestors and only giving 1/2 of the story. and lets forget the fact for a moment that these two anti-war protesters who unsprisingly add suspiciously colorful details like ?He was clenching his teeth, and his veins were bulging out, and he was red-faced,? are intended to incite people like you to begin with and be reasonable.

its a bridge.

over a freeway.

2 large items

2 people

only 4 arms

the flag was "displayed" and the banner was "held"

he later says "they asked us to take the banner down" - "take it down" is not what you do when you are holding something, which indicates that most likely they are either lying or they did "hold" the banner and later hung it from the bridge.

circumstances?

how big were the banners? the flag? was it dangerous? any pics?

well... no one here knows... and as usual, no one here cares about the actual facts.

regardless of what anyone thinks or WANTS to believe. there are laws against this. its not "protected speech" ... and to use anyones logic in defending it, it means i can write "impeach bush" on a baby and dangle it over the freeway and calll it "protected speech"... oh wait, can't do that? why not? you mean laws and legality might come into play? but.. but...

so you made it up .That is what I tought ...

BTW, I know you are not capable of seeing the difference between :

- I hate America

and

- I hate this administration

I know, it is pretty complicated to capture the subtility ....

ronbotx · 12-08-2007, 10:15 AM

Thank you for a logical , well thought out post that has some basis in reality. You should probably considering posting on some other BBS as this type of commentary does not do well here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

"they held a sign"
"they displayed a flag"
"they were asked to take the sign down"

.... "a bridge over the north/south highway"

forget your political bias and total hatred for the US a moment.. or even the fact that you have no place in commenting on the article to begin with which is a far left website, citing no source other than two potestors and only giving 1/2 of the story. and lets forget the fact for a moment that these two anti-war protesters who unsprisingly add suspiciously colorful details like ?He was clenching his teeth, and his veins were bulging out, and he was red-faced,? are intended to incite people like you to begin with and be reasonable.

its a bridge.

over a freeway.

2 large items

2 people

only 4 arms

the flag was "displayed" and the banner was "held"

he later says "they asked us to take the banner down" - "take it down" is not what you do when you are holding something, which indicates that most likely they are either lying or they did "hold" the banner and later hung it from the bridge.

circumstances?

how big were the banners? the flag? was it dangerous? any pics?

well... no one here knows... and as usual, no one here cares about the actual facts.

regardless of what anyone thinks or WANTS to believe. there are laws against this. its not "protected speech" ... and to use anyones logic in defending it, it means i can write "impeach bush" on a baby and dangle it over the freeway and calll it "protected speech"... oh wait, can't do that? why not? you mean laws and legality might come into play? but.. but...

directfiesta · 12-08-2007, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx

Thank you for a logical , well thought out post that has some basis in reality. You should probably considering posting on some other BBS as this type of commentary does not do well here.

get off his dick ....

Quote:

Zurawski said they took down the flag and banner, but when they were about to leave three DuPage county sheriff's deputies
showed up - one of them with a chip on his shoulder.

"The first words out of his mouth were that he got a report that we were
throwing things from the bridge," Zurawski said. When he and Hartfield denied
the allegation, the deputy took issue with the upside-down flag.

"His face got blood red," Hartfield said. "He was yelling that he was a veteran and we were disrespecting his son who was in Afghanistan ..

Quote:

Zurawski said they took down the flag and banner, but when they were about to leave three DuPage county sheriff's deputies
showed up - one of them with a chip on his shoulder.

"The first words out of his mouth were that he got a report that we were
throwing things from the bridge," Zurawski said. When he and Hartfield denied
the allegation, the deputy took issue with the upside-down flag.

"His face got blood red," Hartfield said. "He was yelling that he was a
veteran and we were disrespecting his son who was in Afghanistan ..

Quote:

Zurawski said they took down the flag and banner, but when they were about to leave three DuPage county sheriff's deputies
showed up - one of them with a chip on his shoulder.

"The first words out of his mouth were that he got a report that we were
throwing things from the bridge," Zurawski said. When he and Hartfield denied
the allegation, the deputy took issue with the upside-down flag.

"His face got blood red," Hartfield said. "He was yelling that he was a
veteran and we were disrespecting his son who was in Afghanistan ..

very professional

some

to PleasurePays and Ronbotx ....

juz · 12-08-2007, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

so you made it up .That is what I tought ...

BTW, I know you are not capable of seeing the difference between :

- I hate America

and

- I hate this administration

I know, it is pretty complicated to capture the subtility ....

I don't say this often to people, but you're an idiot

directfiesta · 12-08-2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juz

I don't say this often to people, but you're an idiot

so you are not able to see the difference either ... figures

BTW, you guys still hate France ????

juz · 12-08-2007, 10:35 AM

figures what?
You know NOTHING about me, my political leanings, education nothing so what figures?

If something is asked to be taken down, per that article then that means it was hung. I find it amazing you can work in this business and yet you highlight those descriptive phrases as if they are fact, for once pull your head out of your ass

[ScreaM] · 12-08-2007, 10:36 AM

Here we go again.

Pleasurepays · 12-08-2007, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

so you are not able to see the difference either ... figures

BTW, you guys still hate France ????

you do "hate this administration" and thats obvious and can't be denied.

however, just like with the remark above... you go WAAAAAAAY beyond "the administration" and fall back on that position when you get backed into a corner for your non-stop attacks about anything and everything "US" and like webby, you tend to show up anywhere and anywhere you see the chance to attack a country, its entire population and ironically, even those that fervantly agree with you.

It's a little ironic. "you guys still hate France" - more or less refers to inbred idiots who would say "yes" and something which would highlight and irrationanl behavior.

BUT YOU are no more rational, no more reasonable and no more logical. In fact, you are the other side of that same coin.

12clicks · 12-08-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan

You love having no freedom of speach???? wow wonderful

I love freedom of speach. It allows the unintelligent to expose themselves as witnessed by your post.

You want to protest? do it somewhere where safe. Hanging shit off a bridge is dangerous and disruptive.
They should have been clubbed off the bridge.

ronbotx · 12-08-2007, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you do "hate this administration" and thats obvious and can't be denied.

however, just like with the remark above... you go WAAAAAAAY beyond "the administration" and fall back on that position when you get backed into a corner for your non-stop attacks about anything and everything "US" and like webby, you tend to show up anywhere and anywhere you see the chance to attack a country, its entire population and ironically, even those that fervantly agree with you.

It's a little ironic. "you guys still hate France" - more or less refers to inbred idiots who would say "yes" and something which would highlight and irrationanl behavior.

BUT YOU are no more rational, no more reasonable and no more logical. In fact, you are the other side of that same coin.

I posted this on another thread recently, I think it bears repeating now

****************************************
The ignore feature is very useful and certainly made for people like Greywolf/Webby and Fiesta.

Basically all of their thousands of posts are a variant of the following:

-America Sucks
-Bush is a dictator and an Idiot
-Our Military are babykillers and and obviously to are too dumb know what they got into
-There is no terrorism problem....the Islamo-Nazis are simply mis-understood "freedom fighters"
-And just to remind us how clever and witty their repetitive and boring posts are, they always include some of these ""

I've always suspected that Webby and Fiesta were siamese twins who were separated at birth; each left with less than half a brain and no testicles. They've got no real-world expertise or special educational background in geo-politics, economics, or military matters.. yet they happily re-gurgitate what their favorite, uninformed, left wing, anti-american, socialist website has to say as fact. They are two bitter old men who have made a career on GFY of whining and bitching about someone elses country. When asked a direct question about themselves, you'll never get a direct answer.

************************************************** ******

ronbotx · 12-08-2007, 11:12 AM

A small edit to my previous post

-And just to remind us how clever and witty their repetitive and boring posts are, they always include some of these "

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12-07-2007, 01:02 PM	#1
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Anti-Bush Protesters Prosecuted for ?Unauthorized Display of Sign? Jeff Zurawski and Sarah Hartfield had never even gone to a political demonstration before this year. But because they were outraged by Bush?s war, they went to Washington a couple of times and to Camp Casey once. When they returned to their homes in DuPage County, Illinois, this spring, they decided to try to wake up their fellow citizens. And so on May 6th, they went out onto the bridge over the North-South Highway and held a banner that said, ?IMPEACH Bush and Cheney?LIARS.? They also displayed a flag upside down. ?If I had the money to buy a billboard, I would but I don?t,? says Zurawski, a home inspector. ?So that?s what I came up with.? They were there for about an hour and a half when a state trooper pulled up. Full Story: http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc120607 Isn't this just lovely? Welcome to the PSA!

12-07-2007, 01:05 PM	#2
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	I hear you, but that is illegal no matter what the sign said. See it works like this : "They didn't pay anybody so it is illegal". __________________

12-07-2007, 01:28 PM	#4
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,794	I love it __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

12-07-2007, 02:10 PM	#7
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,783	Yould they have been charged and arrested if the sign would of said: " support our troops " and " Clinton is a liar ... " ????? __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

12-07-2007, 03:00 PM	#11
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	Ugh, I can't believe the USA has come to this. and Naperville IL even. I know a lot of the cops there, guess it time to make a call and make some pigs feel real small. __________________

12-07-2007, 01:22 PM	#3
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	If it were me I would have tied up the banner and gotten out of there.

12-07-2007, 01:45 PM	#6
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	reaching much?

12-07-2007, 02:48 PM	#8
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	is this some sort of joke?

12-07-2007, 02:59 PM	#9
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 23,218	If they were from a backwards hick place like DeKalb county they should have known what to expect by displaying a sign calling our Commander in Chief a liar and flying the flag upside down. Might as well have made a sign that said "Fuck Jesus" while they were at it. I'm surprised they didn't get thrown off the overpass.

12-07-2007, 02:59 PM	#10
cool1 sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada Posts: 24,939	cops can be such dicks

12-07-2007, 03:00 PM	#12
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	GWB is a good guy, but the protesters deserve a right to be heard. "Illegal sign" ordinances were designed to control commercial speech --not political speech (usually referred to as "free speech.") __________________ Boner Money

12-07-2007, 03:21 PM	#14
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	If you are going to protest, be sure to not be ignorant of laws while doing so.

12-07-2007, 04:02 PM	#15
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Mean while 2 guys got shot, countless drug deals went down, 3 daughters and two mothers, plus, one grandmother was raped. Nice... Way to pick your battles.

12-07-2007, 04:06 PM	#16
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	welcome to the new RED AMERICA!

12-07-2007, 07:39 PM	#20
stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	That angry cop/war vet should be fired, an upside down flag might piss him off but he doesn't have a right to do anything about it.

12-07-2007, 08:11 PM	#21
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	too bad so sad , hanging shit on overpasses is illegal it always has been. Theres a reason for it , it's dangerous to everyone else. They took down signs honouring troops too. I'm all for free speech , but not when it compromises my safety. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

12-07-2007, 08:50 PM	#22
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	If it wasn't for the cops they probably would have gotten beat up by someone anyway... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

12-08-2007, 10:35 AM	#32
juz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 307	figures what? You know NOTHING about me, my political leanings, education nothing so what figures? If something is asked to be taken down, per that article then that means it was hung. I find it amazing you can work in this business and yet you highlight those descriptive phrases as if they are fact, for once pull your head out of your ass

12-08-2007, 10:36 AM	#33
[ScreaM] Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,664	Here we go again.

12-08-2007, 11:12 AM	#37
ronbotx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,634	A small edit to my previous post -And just to remind us how clever and witty their repetitive and boring posts are, they always include some of these ""