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minusonebit 12-07-2007 01:02 PM

Anti-Bush Protesters Prosecuted for ?Unauthorized Display of Sign?
 
Jeff Zurawski and Sarah Hartfield had never even gone to a political demonstration before this year. But because they were outraged by Bush?s war, they went to Washington a couple of times and to Camp Casey once.

When they returned to their homes in DuPage County, Illinois, this spring, they decided to try to wake up their fellow citizens.

And so on May 6th, they went out onto the bridge over the North-South Highway and held a banner that said, ?IMPEACH Bush and Cheney?LIARS.? They also displayed a flag upside down.

?If I had the money to buy a billboard, I would but I don?t,? says Zurawski, a home inspector. ?So that?s what I came up with.?

They were there for about an hour and a half when a state trooper pulled up.

Full Story: http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc120607

Isn't this just lovely? Welcome to the PSA! :mad:

sortie 12-07-2007 01:05 PM

I hear you, but that is illegal no matter what the sign said.

See it works like this : "They didn't pay anybody so it is illegal".

Matt 26z 12-07-2007 01:22 PM

If it were me I would have tied up the banner and gotten out of there.

12clicks 12-07-2007 01:28 PM

I love it

Bryan G 12-07-2007 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13483967)
I love it

You love having no freedom of speach???? wow wonderful

Pleasurepays 12-07-2007 01:45 PM

reaching much?

directfiesta 12-07-2007 02:10 PM

Yould they have been charged and arrested if the sign would of said:

" support our troops "

and

" Clinton is a liar ... "

?????

papill0n 12-07-2007 02:48 PM

is this some sort of joke?

escorpio 12-07-2007 02:59 PM

If they were from a backwards hick place like DeKalb county they should have known what to expect by displaying a sign calling our Commander in Chief a liar and flying the flag upside down. Might as well have made a sign that said "Fuck Jesus" while they were at it. I'm surprised they didn't get thrown off the overpass.

cool1 12-07-2007 02:59 PM

cops can be such dicks

G-Rotica 12-07-2007 03:00 PM

Ugh, I can't believe the USA has come to this. and Naperville IL even. I know a lot of the cops there, guess it time to make a call and make some pigs feel real small.

DaddyHalbucks 12-07-2007 03:00 PM

GWB is a good guy, but the protesters deserve a right to be heard.

"Illegal sign" ordinances were designed to control commercial speech --not political speech (usually referred to as "free speech.")

mikeyddddd 12-07-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13484282)
...but the protesters deserve a right to be heard.

You may be salvageable after all.

cherrylula 12-07-2007 03:21 PM

If you are going to protest, be sure to not be ignorant of laws while doing so.

V_RocKs 12-07-2007 04:02 PM

Mean while 2 guys got shot, countless drug deals went down, 3 daughters and two mothers, plus, one grandmother was raped.

Nice...

Way to pick your battles.

czarina 12-07-2007 04:06 PM

welcome to the new RED AMERICA!

directfiesta 12-07-2007 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 13484318)
You may be salvageable after all.

Maybe his account was hacked ?????

DaddyHalbucks 12-07-2007 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 13484318)
You may be salvageable after all.

Thanks Bro.

:winkwink:

minusonebit 12-07-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 13484318)
You may be salvageable after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13484499)
Maybe his account was hacked ?????

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

stev0 12-07-2007 07:39 PM

That angry cop/war vet should be fired, an upside down flag might piss him off but he doesn't have a right to do anything about it.

SmokeyTheBear 12-07-2007 08:11 PM

too bad so sad , hanging shit on overpasses is illegal it always has been.

Theres a reason for it , it's dangerous to everyone else.

They took down signs honouring troops too.

I'm all for free speech , but not when it compromises my safety.

woj 12-07-2007 08:50 PM

If it wasn't for the cops they probably would have gotten beat up by someone anyway...

Pleasurepays 12-07-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13484282)
GWB is a good guy, but the protesters deserve a right to be heard.

"Illegal sign" ordinances were designed to control commercial speech --not political speech (usually referred to as "free speech.")

thats total bullshit.

you can't hang shit off a bridge over a highway.. period. has nothing to do with what the sign says.

some of you other guys are so full of hate for Bush that you have lost all sense of reason. but please... go make a 20 ton steel sign with covered with spikes and broken glass and hang it off the bridge and use the argument "hey, this is protected speech and you have no right to tell me what kind of uninspected, unregulated, unsafe shit i can suspend over a busy freeway"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

directfiesta 12-08-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13485551)
thats total bullshit.

you can't hang shit off a bridge over a highway

Quote:

and held a banner
where do you get that hang thing ....

ronbotx 12-08-2007 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 13484014)
You love having no freedom of speach???? wow wonderful

Shouldn't you be tending to your pet spammers rather than making political commentary about someone else's country?

Pleasurepays 12-08-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13486701)
where do you get that hang thing ....

"they held a sign"
"they displayed a flag"
"they were asked to take the sign down"

.... "a bridge over the north/south highway"


forget your political bias and total hatred for the US a moment.. or even the fact that you have no place in commenting on the article to begin with which is a far left website, citing no source other than two potestors and only giving 1/2 of the story. and lets forget the fact for a moment that these two anti-war protesters who unsprisingly add suspiciously colorful details like “He was clenching his teeth, and his veins were bulging out, and he was red-faced,” are intended to incite people like you to begin with and be reasonable.

its a bridge.

over a freeway.

2 large items

2 people

only 4 arms

the flag was "displayed" and the banner was "held"

he later says "they asked us to take the banner down" - "take it down" is not what you do when you are holding something, which indicates that most likely they are either lying or they did "hold" the banner and later hung it from the bridge.

circumstances?

how big were the banners? the flag? was it dangerous? any pics?

well... no one here knows... and as usual, no one here cares about the actual facts.

regardless of what anyone thinks or WANTS to believe. there are laws against this. its not "protected speech" ... and to use anyones logic in defending it, it means i can write "impeach bush" on a baby and dangle it over the freeway and calll it "protected speech"... oh wait, can't do that? why not? you mean laws and legality might come into play? but.. but...

directfiesta 12-08-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13486809)
"they held a sign"
"they displayed a flag"
"they were asked to take the sign down"

.... "a bridge over the north/south highway"


forget your political bias and total hatred for the US a moment.. or even the fact that you have no place in commenting on the article to begin with which is a far left website, citing no source other than two potestors and only giving 1/2 of the story. and lets forget the fact for a moment that these two anti-war protesters who unsprisingly add suspiciously colorful details like ?He was clenching his teeth, and his veins were bulging out, and he was red-faced,? are intended to incite people like you to begin with and be reasonable.

its a bridge.

over a freeway.

2 large items

2 people

only 4 arms

the flag was "displayed" and the banner was "held"

he later says "they asked us to take the banner down" - "take it down" is not what you do when you are holding something, which indicates that most likely they are either lying or they did "hold" the banner and later hung it from the bridge.

circumstances?

how big were the banners? the flag? was it dangerous? any pics?

well... no one here knows... and as usual, no one here cares about the actual facts.

regardless of what anyone thinks or WANTS to believe. there are laws against this. its not "protected speech" ... and to use anyones logic in defending it, it means i can write "impeach bush" on a baby and dangle it over the freeway and calll it "protected speech"... oh wait, can't do that? why not? you mean laws and legality might come into play? but.. but...

so you made it up .That is what I tought ...

BTW, I know you are not capable of seeing the difference between :

- I hate America

and

- I hate this administration


I know, it is pretty complicated to capture the subtility .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ronbotx 12-08-2007 10:15 AM

Thank you for a logical , well thought out post that has some basis in reality. You should probably considering posting on some other BBS as this type of commentary does not do well here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13486809)
"they held a sign"
"they displayed a flag"
"they were asked to take the sign down"

.... "a bridge over the north/south highway"


forget your political bias and total hatred for the US a moment.. or even the fact that you have no place in commenting on the article to begin with which is a far left website, citing no source other than two potestors and only giving 1/2 of the story. and lets forget the fact for a moment that these two anti-war protesters who unsprisingly add suspiciously colorful details like ?He was clenching his teeth, and his veins were bulging out, and he was red-faced,? are intended to incite people like you to begin with and be reasonable.

its a bridge.

over a freeway.

2 large items

2 people

only 4 arms

the flag was "displayed" and the banner was "held"

he later says "they asked us to take the banner down" - "take it down" is not what you do when you are holding something, which indicates that most likely they are either lying or they did "hold" the banner and later hung it from the bridge.

circumstances?

how big were the banners? the flag? was it dangerous? any pics?

well... no one here knows... and as usual, no one here cares about the actual facts.

regardless of what anyone thinks or WANTS to believe. there are laws against this. its not "protected speech" ... and to use anyones logic in defending it, it means i can write "impeach bush" on a baby and dangle it over the freeway and calll it "protected speech"... oh wait, can't do that? why not? you mean laws and legality might come into play? but.. but...


directfiesta 12-08-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13486844)
Thank you for a logical , well thought out post that has some basis in reality. You should probably considering posting on some other BBS as this type of commentary does not do well here.

get off his dick ....

Quote:

Zurawski said they took down the flag and banner, but when they were about to leave three DuPage county sheriff's deputies
showed up - one of them with a chip on his shoulder.

"The first words out of his mouth were that he got a report that we were
throwing things from the bridge," Zurawski said. When he and Hartfield denied
the allegation, the deputy took issue with the upside-down flag.

"His face got blood red," Hartfield said. "He was yelling that he was a veteran and we were disrespecting his son who was in Afghanistan ..
Quote:

Zurawski said they took down the flag and banner, but when they were about to leave three DuPage county sheriff's deputies
showed up - one of them with a chip on his shoulder.

"The first words out of his mouth were that he got a report that we were
throwing things from the bridge," Zurawski said. When he and Hartfield denied
the allegation, the deputy took issue with the upside-down flag.

"His face got blood red," Hartfield said. "He was yelling that he was a
veteran and we were disrespecting his son who was in Afghanistan ..
Quote:

Zurawski said they took down the flag and banner, but when they were about to leave three DuPage county sheriff's deputies
showed up - one of them with a chip on his shoulder.

"The first words out of his mouth were that he got a report that we were
throwing things from the bridge," Zurawski said. When he and Hartfield denied
the allegation, the deputy took issue with the upside-down flag.

"His face got blood red," Hartfield said. "He was yelling that he was a
veteran and we were disrespecting his son who was in Afghanistan ..
very professional :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

some :love2suck to PleasurePays and Ronbotx ....

juz 12-08-2007 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13486841)
so you made it up .That is what I tought ...

BTW, I know you are not capable of seeing the difference between :

- I hate America

and

- I hate this administration


I know, it is pretty complicated to capture the subtility .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


I don't say this often to people, but you're an idiot

directfiesta 12-08-2007 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juz (Post 13486885)
I don't say this often to people, but you're an idiot

so you are not able to see the difference either ... figures :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


BTW, you guys still hate France ????

juz 12-08-2007 10:35 AM

figures what?
You know NOTHING about me, my political leanings, education nothing so what figures?

If something is asked to be taken down, per that article then that means it was hung. I find it amazing you can work in this business and yet you highlight those descriptive phrases as if they are fact, for once pull your head out of your ass

[ScreaM] 12-08-2007 10:36 AM

Here we go again.

Pleasurepays 12-08-2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13486894)
so you are not able to see the difference either ... figures :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


BTW, you guys still hate France ????

you do "hate this administration" and thats obvious and can't be denied.

however, just like with the remark above... you go WAAAAAAAY beyond "the administration" and fall back on that position when you get backed into a corner for your non-stop attacks about anything and everything "US" and like webby, you tend to show up anywhere and anywhere you see the chance to attack a country, its entire population and ironically, even those that fervantly agree with you.

It's a little ironic. "you guys still hate France" - more or less refers to inbred idiots who would say "yes" and something which would highlight and irrationanl behavior.

BUT YOU are no more rational, no more reasonable and no more logical. In fact, you are the other side of that same coin.

12clicks 12-08-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 13484014)
You love having no freedom of speach???? wow wonderful

I love freedom of speach. It allows the unintelligent to expose themselves as witnessed by your post.

You want to protest? do it somewhere where safe. Hanging shit off a bridge is dangerous and disruptive.
They should have been clubbed off the bridge.

ronbotx 12-08-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13487014)
you do "hate this administration" and thats obvious and can't be denied.

however, just like with the remark above... you go WAAAAAAAY beyond "the administration" and fall back on that position when you get backed into a corner for your non-stop attacks about anything and everything "US" and like webby, you tend to show up anywhere and anywhere you see the chance to attack a country, its entire population and ironically, even those that fervantly agree with you.

It's a little ironic. "you guys still hate France" - more or less refers to inbred idiots who would say "yes" and something which would highlight and irrationanl behavior.

BUT YOU are no more rational, no more reasonable and no more logical. In fact, you are the other side of that same coin.

I posted this on another thread recently, I think it bears repeating now

****************************************
The ignore feature is very useful and certainly made for people like Greywolf/Webby and Fiesta.

Basically all of their thousands of posts are a variant of the following:

-America Sucks
-Bush is a dictator and an Idiot
-Our Military are babykillers and and obviously to are too dumb know what they got into
-There is no terrorism problem....the Islamo-Nazis are simply mis-understood "freedom fighters"
-And just to remind us how clever and witty their repetitive and boring posts are, they always include some of these ""

I've always suspected that Webby and Fiesta were siamese twins who were separated at birth; each left with less than half a brain and no testicles. They've got no real-world expertise or special educational background in geo-politics, economics, or military matters.. yet they happily re-gurgitate what their favorite, uninformed, left wing, anti-american, socialist website has to say as fact. They are two bitter old men who have made a career on GFY of whining and bitching about someone elses country. When asked a direct question about themselves, you'll never get a direct answer.

************************************************** ******

ronbotx 12-08-2007 11:12 AM

A small edit to my previous post

-And just to remind us how clever and witty their repetitive and boring posts are, they always include some of these ":1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh"


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