Fucking Traffic Browkers. They Are *ALL* Scammers. - GoFuckYourself.com

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 02:31 PM

*ALL* of you so-called Traffic Brokers are SCAMMERS.

I have bought from a long list of you. None of you have ever given me conversions that were sufficient enough to generate a profit. I am tired of seeing ratios of 1:100K and other similar crap. The cost of your traffic is not worth the price I pay for it. Your traffic is not worth shit if I spend more money buying it than I get from the sales it generates. And of course, all of you, when you make your little sales pitches, tell me stupid things like "I have one guy converting at 1:150" and other such crap.

So here is the new deal for all of you fucking scammers that keep hitting me up on the IMs wanting to sell me your worthless "traffic":

1. I will buy 100K hits of your "traffic" and I will point it to one of my blogs (gay or straight). If it converts at a rate where I have turned a profit, then you get to keep your money and I'll buy more.

2. I will only pay by credit card or PayPal until you have proven that you are not selling me shit.

3. I wont ask you where your traffic comes from because it doesn't matter. Not that any of you know anyway. I have tried asking where you get your traffic before so I can attempt to screen out the people selling gold-plated turds, but quickly learned that none of you even know where your fucking traffic comes from. But no problem, it doesn't matter. All that matters is how or if it performs.

If your traffic fails to turn a profit, you'll have the following three options (and this will be in our agreement, up fucking front) and there will be no exceptions, even if you have some customer telling you he is converting at 1:20.

1. You can send me another 100K hits at no cost and *if* it that batch converts at a ratio that is sufficient for me to make a profit, then that will be that. From then on out, I will buy your traffic at the rate I paid you for 100K hits, but I will get 200k hits because thats all its worth, as was clearly demonstrated by the test we just conducted. If it takes you sending 700K hits before you turn a profit for me, then I will pay the 100k hits rate and get 700k hits.

2. You can give me a refund and that will be that. I'll add you to my long list of people peddling shit that is not worth shit.

3. If you do not issue the refund or send more traffic, I will charge it back.

So come on, traffic brokers. Prove to me that just one of you runs a legitimate business. I don't think any of you can do it. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, you're all scammers. Selling a worthless product that is misrepresented and dishonestly peddled.

Now I am sure one of you is thinking "Hey, no fair! You just took the scam out of it!" Yeah, no shit. I am tired of buying shit and I am not going to do it anymore. And anyone that doesn't want to play along, can keep their fucking shit, opps, I mean, traffic.

Klen · 12-01-2007, 02:37 PM

It's depend what kind of traffic buy,and for which site you buy.For example if you buy tgp traffic for your paysite or anything similar then you cant except sales beacuse it's a skim/blind traffic(surfer which click on except something else)For best results is good to use ppc campaign on sites where is avaible or by simply using search engines.

CDSmith · 12-01-2007, 02:49 PM

I'm not saying you are guilty of this, but some idiots think it's as simple as slapping some banners and links to FHG's on a site and it will be enough to magically convert traffic purchased from brokers. Such idiots don't have the wherewithal to realize that maybe it is they who don't know how to convert traffic to signups and instead blame the brokers, call them scammers etc.

Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker.

That said, the only other thing I'll say is it's probably unwise to be tossing around the word "scammers" like you're doing.

Mr.White · 12-01-2007, 03:19 PM

Now thats another muthafawking minusonebit thread

By the way, i didnt get my newspaper today. Is your bicycle broken?

JOKER · 12-01-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker.

Quoted for truth

Good luck for the post-starter to learn the traffic game

rowan · 12-01-2007, 03:27 PM

I'm sure brokers will be falling over each other in the rush to provide you with traffic, knowing that they're going to lose money if you're not satisfied. Good try!

Snake Doctor · 12-01-2007, 03:41 PM

Traffic brokers is not a very specific term.

Are you referring to products like chokertraffic or to people like cybercat and GTS?

ShaveBucks · 12-01-2007, 03:51 PM

WTF is a "Browker" you illiterate little ass clown of a password posting retard?

the Shemp · 12-01-2007, 03:52 PM

is there a guaranteed return on any advertising? in any business? anywhere?

ravo · 12-01-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

*ALL* of you so-called Traffic Brokers are SCAMMERS.

I don't recall you ever buying from me...

And, if you're trying to convert skimmed traffic on blog, good luck; it's almost impossible.

Successful traffic buying is all about matching up the expectations of the source to the content on the target.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Traffic brokers is not a very specific term.

Are you referring to products like chokertraffic or to people like cybercat and GTS?

I am talking about people that sell "traffic". I.e. you send me $20 and I'll make sure that X,XXX people visit your site. Brokers is too nice a word for them. Should be calling them Traffic Crack Whores. People selling advertising space are different than brokers, you are buying space and not a specific number of hits.

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

is there a guaranteed return on any advertising? in any business? anywhere?

No, but selling shit as gold is dishonest and scammy. And thats exactly what they are doing. Its a worthless product. They know its worthless and so do I. Yet they keep talking about it as if it is not and a few people buy each time. Those who are unhappy just leave.

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Originally Posted by rowan

I'm sure brokers will be falling over each other in the rush to provide you with traffic, knowing that they're going to lose money if you're not satisfied. Good try!

Thats OK, they can keep their shit traffic. Its not a matter of me being "happy". Its either profitable or its not. Either I got more sales out of their traffic than it cost me or I didn't. If they are selling shit its still shit regardless of whose buying it.

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Originally Posted by ravo

I don't recall you ever buying from me...

And, if you're trying to convert skimmed traffic on blog, good luck; it's almost impossible.

Successful traffic buying is all about matching up the expectations of the source to the content on the target.

I don't think I have bought from you yet. But if you're selling the same shit the rest of them are, then you are included. Most of these tards cant even tell me where they get their traffic, I think I had one of them give me actual links to where the traffic was coming from, the most the rest of them could manage was the occasional "around" type of stupid response.

WarChild · 12-01-2007, 04:13 PM

Wow imagine my surprise to learn that the idiot who will write blog posts for pennies doesn't know how to convert traffic. I mean, it's really amazing.

JOKER · 12-01-2007, 04:14 PM

The guy sure sounds bitter

Shagbunny · 12-01-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

is there a guaranteed return on any advertising? in any business? anywhere?

good point

the Shemp · 12-01-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

No, but selling shit as gold is dishonest and scammy. And thats exactly what they are doing. Its a worthless product. They know its worthless and so do I. Yet they keep talking about it as if it is not and a few people buy each time. Those who are unhappy just leave.

.

first off. to be successful, you are going to have to learn to figure out what is real and what is BS...and boards have a lot of BS on them...i have always put people that beat their chest or wave their flag at EVERY opportunity in the suspicious category....get referrals from trusted people, not from some guy that got two free drinks and a bag of cheezies in Vegas...

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I'm not saying you are guilty of this, but some idiots think it's as simple as slapping some banners and links to FHG's on a site and it will be enough to magically convert traffic purchased from brokers. Such idiots don't have the wherewithal to realize that maybe it is they who don't know how to convert traffic to signups and instead blame the brokers, call them scammers etc.

Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker.

That said, the only other thing I'll say is it's probably unwise to be tossing around the word "scammers" like you're doing.

What else can you do with it? There is nothing else you can do with it. Except become a traffic broker and sell it for more than you paid for it. I send the visitor directly to a blog post based on what I am told the traffic type is. Lesbo traffic might get sent to the one below.

http://www.pornstarcatalog.com/index...a-3-way-scene/

Its a good program that pays reasonably well with a new site and good content. Its not over promoted. Its not a fucking ARS site that everyone and their mother has already checked out. If they don't fucking convert at a rate good enough to pay for the fucking traffic (the case I am thinking of cost me $1 per thousand hits, $100 for 100K hits, and I got a big fat "0" sign ups out of it when even at a shitty ratio of 1:10,000, I should have gotten 10 sales which @ $30/sale would have made me $300 or a 200% ROI.) then its not fucking convertible.

And thats what I am saying. All of the fucking traffic peddlers are selling worthless shit. And I dare one of them to prove me differently. If anyone can do it, I'll spend all kinds of money with them because quite frankly, they'll have a monopoly on the business.

Sly · 12-01-2007, 04:21 PM

This sounds like another lawsuit opportunity for you. You should start the paperwork right away, you may be rich before Christmas.

hentaibee · 12-01-2007, 04:23 PM

i have purchased from choker in the past and poured dripplets on blogs in appropriate niches. very good profit from this.

WarChild · 12-01-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

This sounds like another lawsuit opportunity for you. You should start the paperwork right away, you may be rich before Christmas.

He's probably still busy after crying up and down about how he was going to sue Epassporte and then never doing it. Failure like that must take a little something out of you.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

first off. to be successful, you are going to have to learn to figure out what is real and what is BS...and boards have a lot of BS on them...i have always put people that beat their chest or wave their flag at EVERY opportunity in the suspicious category....get referrals from trusted people, not from some guy that got two free drinks and a bag of cheezies in Vegas...

So who should I buy from? Tell me who the good guys are. It has to be a short list.

dissipate · 12-01-2007, 04:25 PM

I really was going to make a post to bash you here, but your stupidity brings me to a loss for words.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

He's probably still busy after crying up and down about how he was going to sue Epassporte and then never doing it. Failure like that must take a little something out of you.

Go douche up someone else's threads you cock sucking pile of feces.

the Shemp · 12-01-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

So who should I buy from? Tell me who the good guys are. It has to be a short list.

i havent bought traffic in a few years, so any data i have isnt relevant now..
but, do you have stats on your traffic...?

for example if you bought 100K, a lot of that will exit from your site right away...what is left over will look at some of your content...how much of that is actually getting through to a signup page?

SuzzyQ · 12-01-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

first off. to be successful, you are going to have to learn to figure out what is real and what is BS...and boards have a lot of BS on them...i have always put people that beat their chest or wave their flag at EVERY opportunity in the suspicious category....get referrals from trusted people, not from some guy that got two free drinks and a bag of cheezies in Vegas...

If ANYONE in this business knows what they are talking about, its Shemp. The guy is brilliant at this stuff.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

I really was going to make a post to bash you here, but your stupidity brings me to a loss for words.

But not at such a loss for words that you were about to push this out?

Snake Doctor · 12-01-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

What else can you do with it? There is nothing else you can do with it. Except become a traffic broker and sell it for more than you paid for it. I send the visitor directly to a blog post based on what I am told the traffic type is. Lesbo traffic might get sent to the one below.

http://www.pornstarcatalog.com/index...a-3-way-scene/

Its a good program that pays reasonably well with a new site and good content. Its not over promoted. Its not a fucking ARS site that everyone and their mother has already checked out. If they don't fucking convert at a rate good enough to pay for the fucking traffic (the case I am thinking of cost me $1 per thousand hits, $100 for 100K hits, and I got a big fat "0" sign ups out of it when even at a shitty ratio of 1:10,000, I should have gotten 10 sales which @ $30/sale would have made me $300 or a 200% ROI.) then its not fucking convertible.

And thats what I am saying. All of the fucking traffic peddlers are selling worthless shit. And I dare one of them to prove me differently. If anyone can do it, I'll spend all kinds of money with them because quite frankly, they'll have a monopoly on the business.

Jeez, there sure is alot of backlash against people who sell traffic and paid spots this holiday season.

As for you, buying traffic that's $1 per K to send to a blog is fucking stupid.
There's really no other way to say it, it's fucking stupid.

90%+ of the traffic from these places is skim from thumb tgp's, the people who buy the traffic and are successful with it are people who use it to grow a TGP.

Obviously if some idiot wants to buy it to send directly to a paysite, or a blog, or whatever, the broker is gonna sell you what you want to buy, it's not their fault that you're an idiot.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

i havent bought traffic in a few years, so any data i have isnt relevant now..
but, do you have stats on your traffic...?

for example if you bought 100K, a lot of that will exit from your site right away...what is left over will look at some of your content...how much of that is actually getting through to a signup page?

Right. I know alot are going to go away, maybe even most. Thats to be expected. Less than a couple of hundred went off my site and into the tours or FHGs at the sponsor, the number that actually made it to the signup page was like 12. No signups. To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

JohnnyJames · 12-01-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Right. I know alot are going to go away, maybe even most. Thats to be expected. Less than a couple of hundred went off my site and into the tours or FHGs at the sponsor, the number that actually made it to the signup page was like 12. No signups. To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

Shitty bots, then, if they could only get 12 to the signup page.

Buy from better scammers with better bots.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Jeez, there sure is alot of backlash against people who sell traffic and paid spots this holiday season.

As for you, buying traffic that's $1 per K to send to a blog is fucking stupid.
There's really no other way to say it, it's fucking stupid.

90%+ of the traffic from these places is skim from thumb tgp's, the people who buy the traffic and are successful with it are people who use it to grow a TGP.

Obviously if some idiot wants to buy it to send directly to a paysite, or a blog, or whatever, the broker is gonna sell you what you want to buy, it's not their fault that you're an idiot.

I am not an idiot. So fuck off with the name calling.

I don't see why traffic coming from a TGP should't work on a blog. For that matter, I don't see much difference between a blog and a TGP. I have free porn, they have free porn. They are trying to make them signup, I am trying to make them signup. They sell links, I sell links. They worry about PR, I worry about PR. To me, blogs are basically one-person TGPs. In fact, I expect them to replace TGPs. TGPs are dead. There is no money in TGPs unless you wn one. Not alot of difference.

So where do I go to get blog traffic then? PPC SEs? Those require so much work to sit there and manage and babysit. Besides SEO'ing my site. Obviously if I am buying traffic its because I want more than what the SEs are giving me ATM.

seeric · 12-01-2007, 04:44 PM

edit: nevermind.

comment would be over the head of many, so why bother.

ShaveBucks · 12-01-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Right. I know alot are going to go away, maybe even most. Thats to be expected. Less than a couple of hundred went off my site and into the tours or FHGs at the sponsor, the number that actually made it to the signup page was like 12. No signups. To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

I'm sure those kick ass 3 cent writing skills had nothing to do with it.

Vittorio · 12-01-2007, 04:48 PM

Interuption of mudslinging:

Anybody got Celeb traffic they can sell me? Surfers looking for Actresses, celebrities, models, bikini babes, nude celebs, etc. etc?

Hit my thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/788857-traffic-brokers-celebrity-traffic.html

Thanks...

Ok, continue...

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

If ANYONE in this business knows what they are talking about, its Shemp. The guy is brilliant at this stuff.

He sounds like it. Thats why I am trying to pump him for info.

Need more people like him around here. You know, people that actually know something.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaveBucks

I'm sure those kick ass 3 cent writing skills had nothing to do with it.

Show me your blog posts then we'll compare. I freely admit that I am not the best writer out there, but I have alot of people beat and I get told this by everyone who hires me. There is a reason why none of my customers are on here posting that I fucked them over or delivered a shitty product. Wanna guess what the reason is? Didn't think so. Now shut up.

minusonebit · 12-01-2007, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vittorio

Interuption of mudslinging:

Anybody got Celeb traffic they can sell me? Surfers looking for Actresses, celebrities, models, bikini babes, nude celebs, etc. etc?

Hit my thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/788857-traffic-brokers-celebrity-traffic.html

Thanks...

Ok, continue...

Hey musty ball sweat, cant you see I am in the middle of voicing a complaint here? Get your own thread to spam in. This one is taken.

liqqwid · 12-01-2007, 04:56 PM

lol @ gold plated turd :-D

HouseHead · 12-01-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

I am not an idiot. So fuck off with the name calling.

I don't see why traffic coming from a TGP should't work on a blog. For that matter, I don't see much difference between a blog and a TGP. I have free porn, they have free porn. They are trying to make them signup, I am trying to make them signup. They sell links, I sell links. They worry about PR, I worry about PR. To me, blogs are basically one-person TGPs. In fact, I expect them to replace TGPs. TGPs are dead. There is no money in TGPs unless you wn one. Not alot of difference.

So where do I go to get blog traffic then? PPC SEs? Those require so much work to sit there and manage and babysit. Besides SEO'ing my site. Obviously if I am buying traffic its because I want more than what the SEs are giving me ATM.

Keep trying, maybe someone will tell you right were to get good traffic for your blogs

polle54 · 12-01-2007, 05:10 PM

Jesus Christ

always the same kind of bullshit.

It's so god damn simple. Not everyone has brain enough to generate money using traffic broker traffic. If everyone had, no one would sell it of course.

I have seen plenty of guys turning it to profit in many creative ways but of course if you are stupid enough to send it to a blog or a paysite tour then you can't profit.

on trafficholder I reffed a guy who has no spend over $32k... somehow I doubt that he just keeps throwing money out of the window the last year he bought this.

You got to be creative and think outside the box, I mean really outside the box.

woj · 12-01-2007, 05:12 PM

Come on, it's not exactly a secret that traffic brokers charge more for traffic than the traffic is worth to an average webmaster...

sandman! · 12-01-2007, 05:12 PM

what do you expect for traffic at $1 per k ?

rowan · 12-01-2007, 05:15 PM

You're sending traffic to a SINGLE post and wonder why it's not converting?

Most of the traffic that TGP brokers sell usually comes from a page with 100+ thumbs. ie: plenty of variety

Your niche may match but that doesn't mean the surfer will necessarily be interested in that particular girl.

WarChild · 12-01-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

I am not an idiot. So fuck off with the name calling.

Here's the first problem, you're already wrong in the first sentence of your post.

_Lush_ · 12-01-2007, 05:17 PM

Please post your current list of shit peddlers so we all can see

kichi · 12-01-2007, 05:17 PM

why do you think they sell their traffic? if it converted they would jsut send it to their affiliate links for aff or whoever.

Snake Doctor · 12-01-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

I am not an idiot. So fuck off with the name calling.

I don't see why traffic coming from a TGP should't work on a blog. For that matter, I don't see much difference between a blog and a TGP. I have free porn, they have free porn. They are trying to make them signup, I am trying to make them signup. They sell links, I sell links. They worry about PR, I worry about PR. To me, blogs are basically one-person TGPs. In fact, I expect them to replace TGPs. TGPs are dead. There is no money in TGPs unless you wn one. Not alot of difference.

So where do I go to get blog traffic then? PPC SEs? Those require so much work to sit there and manage and babysit. Besides SEO'ing my site. Obviously if I am buying traffic its because I want more than what the SEs are giving me ATM.

Ok let's review.

A surfer looking for free porn is at a thumb mgp/tgp.
This site has links to hundreds of galleries with free pics and movies, and sometimes when they click on a thumb they get directed to another thumb tgp/mgp that also has links to hundreds of free galleries.

Now they click a thumb and get sent your page, that has a few thumbs, a shitload of text that they don't care about....and that's it.

And then you wonder why this traffic isn't productive on your site.

You say blogs are the new TGP's, and that TGP's are dead...but the traffic you're buying is from TGP's, they're being sent to your blog, and they don't like it.
What does that tell you?

rowan · 12-01-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

You're sending traffic to a SINGLE post and wonder why it's not converting?

Most of the traffic that TGP brokers sell usually comes from a page with 100+ thumbs. ie: plenty of variety

Your niche may match but that doesn't mean the surfer will necessarily be interested in that particular girl.

To put my explanation another way...

The clickthrough ratio of the best thumbs on my TGPs usually peaks at about 6-7%. This means that for every 100 page loads, that particular thumb will be clicked by 6 or 7 people.

Apply that data to a single blog post and you can guess that you're probably wasting a lot of traffic.

Another way still (keep reading, I've got a possible solution)

If you had a blog titled "skinny russian chicks with shaved pussies and big tits posing outdoors" I might be interested, but that doesn't mean I'd like every girl. Out of 50 models/posts I might only think 1 or 2 are hot. Let the surfers decide what they like, not what you think they'll like. Send to your blog root page, or set up a pseudo TGP with thumbs that link to your posts. Or just do a thumb TGP full stop.

Snake Doctor · 12-01-2007, 05:24 PM

I personally think you're looking at "blogs" the wrong way also.

I see blogs as a mechanism to generate traffic, I don't see them as a "destination" for traffic.

jakethedog · 12-01-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

*ALL* of you so-called Traffic Brokers are SCAMMERS.

I have bought from a long list of you. None of you have ever given me conversions that were sufficient enough to generate a profit. I am tired of seeing ratios of 1:100K and other similar crap. The cost of your traffic is not worth the price I pay for it. Your traffic is not worth shit if I spend more money buying it than I get from the sales it generates. And of course, all of you, when you make your little sales pitches, tell me stupid things like "I have one guy converting at 1:150" and other such crap.

So here is the new deal for all of you fucking scammers that keep hitting me up on the IMs wanting to sell me your worthless "traffic":

1. I will buy 100K hits of your "traffic" and I will point it to one of my blogs (gay or straight). If it converts at a rate where I have turned a profit, then you get to keep your money and I'll buy more.

2. I will only pay by credit card or PayPal until you have proven that you are not selling me shit.

3. I wont ask you where your traffic comes from because it doesn't matter. Not that any of you know anyway. I have tried asking where you get your traffic before so I can attempt to screen out the people selling gold-plated turds, but quickly learned that none of you even know where your fucking traffic comes from. But no problem, it doesn't matter. All that matters is how or if it performs.

If your traffic fails to turn a profit, you'll have the following three options (and this will be in our agreement, up fucking front) and there will be no exceptions, even if you have some customer telling you he is converting at 1:20.

1. You can send me another 100K hits at no cost and *if* it that batch converts at a ratio that is sufficient for me to make a profit, then that will be that. From then on out, I will buy your traffic at the rate I paid you for 100K hits, but I will get 200k hits because thats all its worth, as was clearly demonstrated by the test we just conducted. If it takes you sending 700K hits before you turn a profit for me, then I will pay the 100k hits rate and get 700k hits.

2. You can give me a refund and that will be that. I'll add you to my long list of people peddling shit that is not worth shit.

3. If you do not issue the refund or send more traffic, I will charge it back.

So come on, traffic brokers. Prove to me that just one of you runs a legitimate business. I don't think any of you can do it. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, you're all scammers. Selling a worthless product that is misrepresented and dishonestly peddled.

Now I am sure one of you is thinking "Hey, no fair! You just took the scam out of it!" Yeah, no shit. I am tired of buying shit and I am not going to do it anymore. And anyone that doesn't want to play along, can keep their fucking shit, opps, I mean, traffic.

I AM SOOOO ON THE SAME WAVE LINK AS THIS .. AND NOT TO BE A COPY CAT BUT FUCK THIS SOUNDS PERFECT ... I THINK THIS SHOULD BE THE NEW LAW OF THE INTERNET .. I AM COPYING THIS AND PASTING IT TO EVERY SINGLE DEAL OUT THERE .. I WILL PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR GOOD PROFITABLE TRAFFIC .. BUT SERIOUSLY SHIT TRAFFIC SHOULD BE REFUNDED ..

WarChild · 12-01-2007, 05:32 PM

So let's recap on the last year or so with minusonebit:

1) Can't understand how Epassporte works and ends up getting canned there.
2) Threatens to sue Epassporte but does nothing about it.
3) Spreads private information of more than 300 webmasters with his blog in hopes of a few extra ad word pennies.
4) Offers his writing services at less than third world outsource prices. You get what you pay for.
5) Can't understand how a TGP is different than a blog.

Stunning success my man, stunning success!

papill0n · 12-01-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

So let's recap on the last year or so with minusonebit:

1) Can't understand how Epassporte works and ends up getting canned there.
2) Threatens to sue Epassporte but does nothing about it.
3) Spreads private information of more than 300 webmasters with his blog in hopes of a few extra ad word pennies.
4) Offers his writing services at less than third world outsource prices. You get what you pay for.
5) Can't understand how a TGP is different than a blog.

Stunning success my man, stunning success!

Nice summary there

12-01-2007, 02:31 PM	#1
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	*Fucking Traffic Browkers. They Are ALL* Scammers.** ALL of you so-called Traffic Brokers are SCAMMERS. I have bought from a long list of you. None of you have ever given me conversions that were sufficient enough to generate a profit. I am tired of seeing ratios of 1:100K and other similar crap. The cost of your traffic is not worth the price I pay for it. Your traffic is not worth shit if I spend more money buying it than I get from the sales it generates. And of course, all of you, when you make your little sales pitches, tell me stupid things like "I have one guy converting at 1:150" and other such crap. So here is the new deal for all of you fucking scammers that keep hitting me up on the IMs wanting to sell me your worthless "traffic": 1. I will buy 100K hits of your "traffic" and I will point it to one of my blogs (gay or straight). If it converts at a rate where I have turned a profit, then you get to keep your money and I'll buy more. 2. I will only pay by credit card or PayPal until you have proven that you are not selling me shit. 3. I wont ask you where your traffic comes from because it doesn't matter. Not that any of you know anyway. I have tried asking where you get your traffic before so I can attempt to screen out the people selling gold-plated turds, but quickly learned that none of you even know where your fucking traffic comes from. But no problem, it doesn't matter. All that matters is how or if it performs. If your traffic fails to turn a profit, you'll have the following three options (and this will be in our agreement, up fucking front) and there will be no exceptions, even if you have some customer telling you he is converting at 1:20. 1. You can send me another 100K hits at no cost and if it that batch converts at a ratio that is sufficient for me to make a profit, then that will be that. From then on out, I will buy your traffic at the rate I paid you for 100K hits, but I will get 200k hits because thats all its worth, as was clearly demonstrated by the test we just conducted. If it takes you sending 700K hits before you turn a profit for me, then I will pay the 100k hits rate and get 700k hits. 2. You can give me a refund and that will be that. I'll add you to my long list of people peddling shit that is not worth shit. 3. If you do not issue the refund or send more traffic, I will charge it back. So come on, traffic brokers. Prove to me that just one of you runs a legitimate business. I don't think any of you can do it. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, you're all scammers. Selling a worthless product that is misrepresented and dishonestly peddled. Now I am sure one of you is thinking "Hey, no fair! You just took the scam out of it!" Yeah, no shit. I am tired of buying shit and I am not going to do it anymore. And anyone that doesn't want to play along, can keep their fucking shit, opps, I mean, traffic. Last edited by minusonebit; 12-01-2007 at 02:33 PM..

12-01-2007, 02:49 PM	#3
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I'm not saying you are guilty of this, but some idiots think it's as simple as slapping some banners and links to FHG's on a site and it will be enough to magically convert traffic purchased from brokers. Such idiots don't have the wherewithal to realize that maybe it is they who don't know how to convert traffic to signups and instead blame the brokers, call them scammers etc. Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker. That said, the only other thing I'll say is it's probably unwise to be tossing around the word "scammers" like you're doing. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

12-01-2007, 03:51 PM	#8
ShaveBucks Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Razor's Edge Posts: 467	WTF is a "Browker" you illiterate little ass clown of a password posting retard? __________________

12-01-2007, 03:52 PM	#9
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	is there a guaranteed return on any advertising? in any business? anywhere? __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

12-01-2007, 04:13 PM	#12
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Wow imagine my surprise to learn that the idiot who will write blog posts for pennies doesn't know how to convert traffic. I mean, it's really amazing. __________________ .

12-01-2007, 02:37 PM	#2
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	It's depend what kind of traffic buy,and for which site you buy.For example if you buy tgp traffic for your paysite or anything similar then you cant except sales beacuse it's a skim/blind traffic(surfer which click on except something else)For best results is good to use ppc campaign on sites where is avaible or by simply using search engines.

12-01-2007, 03:19 PM	#4
Mr.White Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Standup Guys Suite Posts: 703	Now thats another muthafawking minusonebit thread By the way, i didnt get my newspaper today. Is your bicycle broken?

12-01-2007, 03:27 PM	#6
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I'm sure brokers will be falling over each other in the rush to provide you with traffic, knowing that they're going to lose money if you're not satisfied. Good try!

12-01-2007, 03:41 PM	#7
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Traffic brokers is not a very specific term. Are you referring to products like chokertraffic or to people like cybercat and GTS?

12-01-2007, 04:14 PM	#13
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	The guy sure sounds bitter __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

12-01-2007, 04:21 PM	#17
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,337	This sounds like another lawsuit opportunity for you. You should start the paperwork right away, you may be rich before Christmas. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

12-01-2007, 04:23 PM	#18
hentaibee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: netherlands Posts: 724	i have purchased from choker in the past and poured dripplets on blogs in appropriate niches. very good profit from this. __________________ icq: 45649137 http://www.bigtitsponsors.com- good big tit sponsors list http://www.huge-tits-boobs.com a huge boobs blog

12-01-2007, 04:25 PM	#21
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	I really was going to make a post to bash you here, but your stupidity brings me to a loss for words.

12-01-2007, 04:44 PM	#30
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	edit: nevermind. comment would be over the head of many, so why bother.

12-01-2007, 04:48 PM	#32
Vittorio Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,974	Interuption of mudslinging: Anybody got Celeb traffic they can sell me? Surfers looking for Actresses, celebrities, models, bikini babes, nude celebs, etc. etc? Hit my thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/788857-traffic-brokers-celebrity-traffic.html Thanks... Ok, continue... __________________ 28 GIGS of Hardcore Content for $69 !!

12-01-2007, 04:56 PM	#36
liqqwid Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: world-wide Posts: 162	lol @ gold plated turd :-D __________________ "I wasn't born with talent for the game, but passion for the game." ~ Wayne Gretzky ~

12-01-2007, 05:10 PM	#38
polle54 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Beach Posts: 4,626	Jesus Christ always the same kind of bullshit. It's so god damn simple. Not everyone has brain enough to generate money using traffic broker traffic. If everyone had, no one would sell it of course. I have seen plenty of guys turning it to profit in many creative ways but of course if you are stupid enough to send it to a blog or a paysite tour then you can't profit. on trafficholder I reffed a guy who has no spend over $32k... somehow I doubt that he just keeps throwing money out of the window the last year he bought this. You got to be creative and think outside the box, I mean really outside the box. __________________ ICQ# 143561781

12-01-2007, 05:12 PM	#39
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	Come on, it's not exactly a secret that traffic brokers charge more for traffic than the traffic is worth to an average webmaster... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

12-01-2007, 05:12 PM	#40
sandman! Icq: 14420613 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago Posts: 15,432	what do you expect for traffic at $1 per k ? __________________ Need WebHosting ? Email me for some great deals [email protected]

12-01-2007, 05:15 PM	#41
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	You're sending traffic to a SINGLE post and wonder why it's not converting? Most of the traffic that TGP brokers sell usually comes from a page with 100+ thumbs. ie: plenty of variety Your niche may match but that doesn't mean the surfer will necessarily be interested in that particular girl.

12-01-2007, 05:17 PM	#43
_Lush_ Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GDL Jal. Posts: 536	Please post your current list of shit peddlers so we all can see __________________ IcQ 50611033

12-01-2007, 05:17 PM	#44
kichi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 338	why do you think they sell their traffic? if it converted they would jsut send it to their affiliate links for aff or whoever. __________________ no sig

12-01-2007, 05:24 PM	#47
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I personally think you're looking at "blogs" the wrong way also. I see blogs as a mechanism to generate traffic, I don't see them as a "destination" for traffic.

12-01-2007, 05:32 PM	#49
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	So let's recap on the last year or so with minusonebit: 1) Can't understand how Epassporte works and ends up getting canned there. 2) Threatens to sue Epassporte but does nothing about it. 3) Spreads private information of more than 300 webmasters with his blog in hopes of a few extra ad word pennies. 4) Offers his writing services at less than third world outsource prices. You get what you pay for. 5) Can't understand how a TGP is different than a blog. Stunning success my man, stunning success! __________________ .