Fucking Traffic Browkers. They Are *ALL* Scammers.
 

*ALL* of you so-called Traffic Brokers are SCAMMERS.

I have bought from a long list of you. None of you have ever given me conversions that were sufficient enough to generate a profit. I am tired of seeing ratios of 1:100K and other similar crap. The cost of your traffic is not worth the price I pay for it. Your traffic is not worth shit if I spend more money buying it than I get from the sales it generates. And of course, all of you, when you make your little sales pitches, tell me stupid things like "I have one guy converting at 1:150" and other such crap.

So here is the new deal for all of you fucking scammers that keep hitting me up on the IMs wanting to sell me your worthless "traffic":

1. I will buy 100K hits of your "traffic" and I will point it to one of my blogs (gay or straight). If it converts at a rate where I have turned a profit, then you get to keep your money and I'll buy more.

2. I will only pay by credit card or PayPal until you have proven that you are not selling me shit.

3. I wont ask you where your traffic comes from because it doesn't matter. Not that any of you know anyway. I have tried asking where you get your traffic before so I can attempt to screen out the people selling gold-plated turds, but quickly learned that none of you even know where your fucking traffic comes from. But no problem, it doesn't matter. All that matters is how or if it performs.

If your traffic fails to turn a profit, you'll have the following three options (and this will be in our agreement, up fucking front) and there will be no exceptions, even if you have some customer telling you he is converting at 1:20.

1. You can send me another 100K hits at no cost and *if* it that batch converts at a ratio that is sufficient for me to make a profit, then that will be that. From then on out, I will buy your traffic at the rate I paid you for 100K hits, but I will get 200k hits because thats all its worth, as was clearly demonstrated by the test we just conducted. If it takes you sending 700K hits before you turn a profit for me, then I will pay the 100k hits rate and get 700k hits.

2. You can give me a refund and that will be that. I'll add you to my long list of people peddling shit that is not worth shit.

3. If you do not issue the refund or send more traffic, I will charge it back.

So come on, traffic brokers. Prove to me that just one of you runs a legitimate business. I don't think any of you can do it. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, you're all scammers. Selling a worthless product that is misrepresented and dishonestly peddled.

Now I am sure one of you is thinking "Hey, no fair! You just took the scam out of it!" Yeah, no shit. I am tired of buying shit and I am not going to do it anymore. And anyone that doesn't want to play along, can keep their fucking shit, opps, I mean, traffic.

It's depend what kind of traffic buy,and for which site you buy.For example if you buy tgp traffic for your paysite or anything similar then you cant except sales beacuse it's a skim/blind traffic(surfer which click on except something else)For best results is good to use ppc campaign on sites where is avaible or by simply using search engines.

I'm not saying you are guilty of this, but some idiots think it's as simple as slapping some banners and links to FHG's on a site and it will be enough to magically convert traffic purchased from brokers. Such idiots don't have the wherewithal to realize that maybe it is they who don't know how to convert traffic to signups and instead blame the brokers, call them scammers etc.

Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker.

That said, the only other thing I'll say is it's probably unwise to be tossing around the word "scammers" like you're doing.

Now thats another muthafawking minusonebit thread :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
By the way, i didnt get my newspaper today. Is your bicycle broken?

Quoted for truth :2 cents:

Good luck for the post-starter to learn the traffic game :winkwink:

I'm sure brokers will be falling over each other in the rush to provide you with traffic, knowing that they're going to lose money if you're not satisfied. Good try!

Traffic brokers is not a very specific term.

Are you referring to products like chokertraffic or to people like cybercat and GTS?

WTF is a "Browker" you illiterate little ass clown of a password posting retard?

is there a guaranteed return on any advertising? in any business? anywhere?

I don't recall you ever buying from me...

And, if you're trying to convert skimmed traffic on blog, good luck; it's almost impossible.

Successful traffic buying is all about matching up the expectations of the source to the content on the target.

I am talking about people that sell "traffic". I.e. you send me $20 and I'll make sure that X,XXX people visit your site. Brokers is too nice a word for them. Should be calling them Traffic Crack Whores. People selling advertising space are different than brokers, you are buying space and not a specific number of hits.

No, but selling shit as gold is dishonest and scammy. And thats exactly what they are doing. Its a worthless product. They know its worthless and so do I. Yet they keep talking about it as if it is not and a few people buy each time. Those who are unhappy just leave.

Thats OK, they can keep their shit traffic. Its not a matter of me being "happy". Its either profitable or its not. Either I got more sales out of their traffic than it cost me or I didn't. If they are selling shit its still shit regardless of whose buying it.

I don't think I have bought from you yet. But if you're selling the same shit the rest of them are, then you are included. Most of these tards cant even tell me where they get their traffic, I think I had one of them give me actual links to where the traffic was coming from, the most the rest of them could manage was the occasional "around" type of stupid response.

Wow imagine my surprise to learn that the idiot who will write blog posts for pennies doesn't know how to convert traffic. I mean, it's really amazing.

The guy sure sounds bitter :Oh crap

good point

first off. to be successful, you are going to have to learn to figure out what is real and what is BS...and boards have a lot of BS on them...i have always put people that beat their chest or wave their flag at EVERY opportunity in the suspicious category....get referrals from trusted people, not from some guy that got two free drinks and a bag of cheezies in Vegas...

What else can you do with it? There is nothing else you can do with it. Except become a traffic broker and sell it for more than you paid for it. I send the visitor directly to a blog post based on what I am told the traffic type is. Lesbo traffic might get sent to the one below.

http://www.pornstarcatalog.com/index...a-3-way-scene/

Its a good program that pays reasonably well with a new site and good content. Its not over promoted. Its not a fucking ARS site that everyone and their mother has already checked out. If they don't fucking convert at a rate good enough to pay for the fucking traffic (the case I am thinking of cost me $1 per thousand hits, $100 for 100K hits, and I got a big fat "0" sign ups out of it when even at a shitty ratio of 1:10,000, I should have gotten 10 sales which @ $30/sale would have made me $300 or a 200% ROI.) then its not fucking convertible.

And thats what I am saying. All of the fucking traffic peddlers are selling worthless shit. And I dare one of them to prove me differently. If anyone can do it, I'll spend all kinds of money with them because quite frankly, they'll have a monopoly on the business.

This sounds like another lawsuit opportunity for you. You should start the paperwork right away, you may be rich before Christmas.

i have purchased from choker in the past and poured dripplets on blogs in appropriate niches. very good profit from this.

He's probably still busy after crying up and down about how he was going to sue Epassporte and then never doing it. Failure like that must take a little something out of you.

So who should I buy from? Tell me who the good guys are. It has to be a short list.

I really was going to make a post to bash you here, but your stupidity brings me to a loss for words.

Go douche up someone else's threads you cock sucking pile of feces.

i havent bought traffic in a few years, so any data i have isnt relevant now..
but, do you have stats on your traffic...?

for example if you bought 100K, a lot of that will exit from your site right away...what is left over will look at some of your content...how much of that is actually getting through to a signup page?

If ANYONE in this business knows what they are talking about, its Shemp. The guy is brilliant at this stuff.:thumbsup

But not at such a loss for words that you were about to push this out?

Jeez, there sure is alot of backlash against people who sell traffic and paid spots this holiday season.

As for you, buying traffic that's $1 per K to send to a blog is fucking stupid.
There's really no other way to say it, it's fucking stupid.

90%+ of the traffic from these places is skim from thumb tgp's, the people who buy the traffic and are successful with it are people who use it to grow a TGP.

Obviously if some idiot wants to buy it to send directly to a paysite, or a blog, or whatever, the broker is gonna sell you what you want to buy, it's not their fault that you're an idiot. :2 cents:

Right. I know alot are going to go away, maybe even most. Thats to be expected. Less than a couple of hundred went off my site and into the tours or FHGs at the sponsor, the number that actually made it to the signup page was like 12. No signups. To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

Shitty bots, then, if they could only get 12 to the signup page.

Buy from better scammers with better bots.

I am not an idiot. So fuck off with the name calling.

I don't see why traffic coming from a TGP should't work on a blog. For that matter, I don't see much difference between a blog and a TGP. I have free porn, they have free porn. They are trying to make them signup, I am trying to make them signup. They sell links, I sell links. They worry about PR, I worry about PR. To me, blogs are basically one-person TGPs. In fact, I expect them to replace TGPs. TGPs are dead. There is no money in TGPs unless you wn one. Not alot of difference.

So where do I go to get blog traffic then? PPC SEs? Those require so much work to sit there and manage and babysit. Besides SEO'ing my site. Obviously if I am buying traffic its because I want more than what the SEs are giving me ATM.

edit: nevermind.

comment would be over the head of many, so why bother.

I'm sure those kick ass 3 cent writing skills had nothing to do with it.

Interuption of mudslinging:

Anybody got Celeb traffic they can sell me? Surfers looking for Actresses, celebrities, models, bikini babes, nude celebs, etc. etc?

Hit my thread: fucking-around-and-business-discussion/788857-traffic-brokers-celebrity-traffic.html

Thanks...

Ok, continue...

He sounds like it. Thats why I am trying to pump him for info. :)

Need more people like him around here. You know, people that actually know something. :disgust

Show me your blog posts then we'll compare. I freely admit that I am not the best writer out there, but I have alot of people beat and I get told this by everyone who hires me. There is a reason why none of my customers are on here posting that I fucked them over or delivered a shitty product. Wanna guess what the reason is? Didn't think so. Now shut up. :)

Hey musty ball sweat, cant you see I am in the middle of voicing a complaint here? Get your own thread to spam in. This one is taken. :321GFY

lol @ gold plated turd :-D

Keep trying, maybe someone will tell you right were to get good traffic for your blogs

Jesus Christ

always the same kind of bullshit.

It's so god damn simple. Not everyone has brain enough to generate money using traffic broker traffic. If everyone had, no one would sell it of course.

I have seen plenty of guys turning it to profit in many creative ways but of course if you are stupid enough to send it to a blog or a paysite tour then you can't profit.

on trafficholder I reffed a guy who has no spend over $32k... somehow I doubt that he just keeps throwing money out of the window the last year he bought this.

You got to be creative and think outside the box, I mean really outside the box.

Come on, it's not exactly a secret that traffic brokers charge more for traffic than the traffic is worth to an average webmaster...

what do you expect for traffic at $1 per k ?

You're sending traffic to a SINGLE post and wonder why it's not converting? :helpme

Most of the traffic that TGP brokers sell usually comes from a page with 100+ thumbs. ie: plenty of variety

Your niche may match but that doesn't mean the surfer will necessarily be interested in that particular girl.

Here's the first problem, you're already wrong in the first sentence of your post.

why do you think they sell their traffic? if it converted they would jsut send it to their affiliate links for aff or whoever.

Ok let's review.

A surfer looking for free porn is at a thumb mgp/tgp.
This site has links to hundreds of galleries with free pics and movies, and sometimes when they click on a thumb they get directed to another thumb tgp/mgp that also has links to hundreds of free galleries.

Now they click a thumb and get sent your page, that has a few thumbs, a shitload of text that they don't care about....and that's it.

And then you wonder why this traffic isn't productive on your site.

You say blogs are the new TGP's, and that TGP's are dead...but the traffic you're buying is from TGP's, they're being sent to your blog, and they don't like it.
What does that tell you?

To put my explanation another way...

The clickthrough ratio of the best thumbs on my TGPs usually peaks at about 6-7%. This means that for every 100 page loads, that particular thumb will be clicked by 6 or 7 people.

Apply that data to a single blog post and you can guess that you're probably wasting a lot of traffic.


Another way still (keep reading, I've got a possible solution)

If you had a blog titled "skinny russian chicks with shaved pussies and big tits posing outdoors" I might be interested, but that doesn't mean I'd like every girl. Out of 50 models/posts I might only think 1 or 2 are hot. Let the surfers decide what they like, not what you think they'll like. Send to your blog root page, or set up a pseudo TGP with thumbs that link to your posts. Or just do a thumb TGP full stop. :)

I personally think you're looking at "blogs" the wrong way also.

I see blogs as a mechanism to generate traffic, I don't see them as a "destination" for traffic.

I AM SOOOO ON THE SAME WAVE LINK AS THIS .. AND NOT TO BE A COPY CAT BUT FUCK THIS SOUNDS PERFECT ... I THINK THIS SHOULD BE THE NEW LAW OF THE INTERNET .. I AM COPYING THIS AND PASTING IT TO EVERY SINGLE DEAL OUT THERE .. I WILL PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR GOOD PROFITABLE TRAFFIC .. BUT SERIOUSLY SHIT TRAFFIC SHOULD BE REFUNDED ..

So let's recap on the last year or so with minusonebit:

1) Can't understand how Epassporte works and ends up getting canned there.
2) Threatens to sue Epassporte but does nothing about it.
3) Spreads private information of more than 300 webmasters with his blog in hopes of a few extra ad word pennies.
4) Offers his writing services at less than third world outsource prices. You get what you pay for.
5) Can't understand how a TGP is different than a blog.

Stunning success my man, stunning success!

Nice summary there :thumbsup