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Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 01:36 PM

www.spunkycash.com

Matthew Stregger

Never sell anything to this overgrown clown. The guy owes me a ton of money, and I've consistantly had to chase him down for it. He bought some sites off of me ages ago, agreed to pay me $5,000.00 a month, and instead blows his money on everything except paying people what he owes them. Yes, he has done this to others, too.

The guy tells me at the beginning of November, "Hey, I won't be around until the end of the month. I'll get you your money then." Well, yesterday comes (the 28th) and I find out he finally wired me money. But, not the $5,000.00 we'd agreed on... only $2,000.00! At this point I'm pretty pissed, so I contact him to ask where my missing $3,000.00 is. He tells me, "Oh, I IM'ed you a few days ago to tell you I'd only send $2,000.00. Did you not get it?" Bullshit! I never got any message about that, and furthermore, you shouldn't assume somebody got an IM regarding important financial information. He could have PM'ed me through his message board, or even called me.

So, I'm pretty pissed off, tell him that $2,000.00 is not what we'd agreed on, and point the domains of the sites I've sold him elsewhere. At this point he knows I mean business so he tells me he sent out another $2,000.00. I wake up today, check my account... nothing. Completely screwed.

This is not the first time this guy has pulled this shit. Since I've made this crappy business deal with him, I've had other webmasters tell me similar stories. Now, thanks to this asshole, all my bills are late this month, I wasn't able to pay my mortgage and car payment, and the bank is probably going to start foreclosure on my house. He's been consistantly late paying me (I've had a late fee tacked to my mortgage every month for the last six months) and this month didn't even pay me even half of the agreed amount. He told me he had a "busy month," yet I've seen him posting on message boards how he's been sitting around playing video games. Real busy.

Ignore my IM's. Delete my threads. Nice try, Spunky. I want the money you owe me, and if you don't pay-up, you're not only fucking over me, but fucking over the model whose site I sold you since you forced me to shut down the domain. I'm sure she'll be happy to know you fucked me over once again and in the process, burned her as well.

Not fun having your mortgage company call you every single day wondering where their money is. Not fun knowing your car will be repossessed soon. All because the guy who's suppose to run a "tight ship" and "big program" is treating you with complete disrespect and not paying you what he agreed to pay you.

I feel sorry for the other webmasters he's screwed. I know how they feel, trust me. I'm beyond pissed.

(Also posted this in Buy and Sell, but had numerous requests to move it here.)

thonglife · 11-29-2007, 01:39 PM

I've always wondered what was going around with you two guy juggling solo girl sites around. It's annoying as hell to constantly change link codes for the programs you guys go back and forth on.

abadfish · 11-29-2007, 01:39 PM

reminds me of this thread...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=763511

BusterBunny · 11-29-2007, 01:39 PM

spotting......

tranza · 11-29-2007, 01:42 PM

Sig spot right here....

StarkReality · 11-29-2007, 01:44 PM

Do I need popcorn ?

xNetworx · 11-29-2007, 01:47 PM

Was this agreement in writing? If so, was it created by an attorney? If not, you just took a lesson in Business 101.

erosfagmaster · 11-29-2007, 01:48 PM

I think he may have snubbed me once.

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 01:51 PM

He had the nerve to PM me and threaten me after I posted a little comment about the money he owes on his board. What a guy. He ignored the IM's I sent him, but was obviously online since he removed my thread and also PM'ed me.

Since posting this I've already received a few IM's from other people he's burned. People need to speak up, not sit back and be scared of this guy.

Will Black · 11-29-2007, 01:51 PM

Bizup for da resolution.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-29-2007, 01:52 PM

this may get big...

thehand · 11-29-2007, 01:55 PM

halfpint · 11-29-2007, 02:05 PM

Somebody buy my sig

Enemator · 11-29-2007, 02:07 PM

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 02:14 PM

I'd have to say the one good thing about SpunkyCash is Erik, who's been extremely nice to me during all of this and is currently working behind the scenes to resolve things. Even sent me some money from his own account to help ease tension.

Stand-up guy, right there.

D · 11-29-2007, 02:22 PM

Hmm...

Might wanna hit a mod up to remove that forum's url from your inital post.

People have been banned for less.

Good luck getting everything straightened out.

Mutt · 11-29-2007, 02:29 PM

I will weigh in on this matter soon - I should have done it on behalf of a friend who has gone through the same thing for a year and a half with this deadbeat but I didn't want to get involved at the time - shame on me.

thonglife · 11-29-2007, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehand

Damn that looks good!

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D

Hmm...

Might wanna hit a mod up to remove that forum's url from your inital post.

People have been banned for less.

Good luck getting everything straightened out.

Yeah, didn't know that wasn't allowed. My bad. Any mod can feel free to remove it. I already got the point across.

JD · 11-29-2007, 02:36 PM

Dirty F · 11-29-2007, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erosfagmaster

I think he may have snubbed me once.

Mutt · 11-29-2007, 02:43 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=763511

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=783593

tigermtb · 11-29-2007, 02:44 PM

Never had a problem getting paid for anything.

I have been paid by Spunky for items ranging from $25 to $6,000.

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

Never had a problem getting paid for anything.

I have been paid by Spunky for items ranging from $25 to $6,000.

If it's small payments, you're usually okay. But, if he owes you a decent sum of money... you're going to be waiting ages to get it. If he tells you he'll pay you in installments then you're really fucked.

SoloGirlsContent · 11-29-2007, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

Never had a problem getting paid for anything.

I have been paid by Spunky for items ranging from $25 to $6,000.

maybe that was when he had money. word around the campfire is , his money is drying up, but his spending is still heavy. when the two collide..oops no mo money to pay "unimportant people"

minusonebit · 11-29-2007, 02:54 PM

A few of the things I have learned over time:

1. NEVER put yourself in a position where you wont be able to meet your obligations if X, Y and Z don't pay on time. Always assume that no one will pay on time and then allow yourself to be pleasantly surprised when they do.

2. NEVER extend credit to people who you do not implicitly trust. For those you do extend credit to, always have written agreement signed by the parties and have it notarized. Banks exist to loan money, you should exist to sell stuff, not compete with the banks.

3. NEVER allow payments to get more than one cycle behind. If they do, the deal is off and the deal goes directly to the lawyers for litigation. Even if the guy *IS* in the hospital or his (insert some family connection here) died.

4. ALWAYS have a provision in your agreement that allows you to automatically withdraw payment(s) due you via ACH from the person's bank account if they are not made voluntarily on time. Using a service like paybycheck.com, this is easy to do and its perfectly legal because it is authorized by the account holder when they signup.

5. For large deals, require all checks to be sent by FedEx or equivalent. That puts a stop the 'ole "Checks in the mail" bullshit real fast.

Not that any of this advice will help you now, sounds like you are too late for this one.

tigermtb · 11-29-2007, 03:02 PM

Sounds like you have financial issues to begin with... esp if you're foreclosing over $5k missing per month.

JFK · 11-29-2007, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality

Do I need popcorn ?

with extra butter

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

Sounds like you have financial issues to begin with... esp if you're foreclosing over $5k missing per month.

Uh, know what you're talking about before you chime in. My network has always been solid, but I sold Spunky my highest-grossing site for a good sum of money. I've since invested in a few models and those sites will do great. Takes money make money. It's not like I was going to use the money Spunky was sending me to buy stupid crap. I invested it all in some great sites that should be online within the next month.

;)

pornask · 11-29-2007, 03:11 PM

It sucks when people don't pay their dues

Paysighting · 11-29-2007, 03:13 PM

I trust Matt 100%!

The last 13 months he has paid me +38k, and i've never had any problems.

fris · 11-29-2007, 03:17 PM

nngalleries owner is a douchebag

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask

It sucks when people don't pay their dues

Bingo.

I think Spunky just got in over his head. He got so caught up with buying every site he could that he wound up owing too many people money.

Mutt · 11-29-2007, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

Sounds like you have financial issues to begin with... esp if you're foreclosing over $5k missing per month.

jesus - how does ANT's financial situation in any way make not paying debts any less reprehensible? is there some law out there that excuses debtors their debts based on the character of their creditors?

spunky99 · 11-29-2007, 03:38 PM

lawyer has been informed.. thats all i will say..

Some Guy · 11-29-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99

lawyer has been informed.. thats all i will say..

How much do you owe him?

Har, har, har.

But... problem resolved for now anyway, thanks to Erik, who's a great guy and the single best part of SpunkyCash. I still can't believe he paid me money from his own account to help fix this. What a guy!

11-29-2007, 01:36 PM	#1
Some Guy Affordable Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,750	Never sell ANYTHING to Spunky... www.spunkycash.com Matthew Stregger Never sell anything to this overgrown clown. The guy owes me a ton of money, and I've consistantly had to chase him down for it. He bought some sites off of me ages ago, agreed to pay me $5,000.00 a month, and instead blows his money on everything except paying people what he owes them. Yes, he has done this to others, too. The guy tells me at the beginning of November, "Hey, I won't be around until the end of the month. I'll get you your money then." Well, yesterday comes (the 28th) and I find out he finally wired me money. But, not the $5,000.00 we'd agreed on... only $2,000.00! At this point I'm pretty pissed, so I contact him to ask where my missing $3,000.00 is. He tells me, "Oh, I IM'ed you a few days ago to tell you I'd only send $2,000.00. Did you not get it?" Bullshit! I never got any message about that, and furthermore, you shouldn't assume somebody got an IM regarding important financial information. He could have PM'ed me through his message board, or even called me. So, I'm pretty pissed off, tell him that $2,000.00 is not what we'd agreed on, and point the domains of the sites I've sold him elsewhere. At this point he knows I mean business so he tells me he sent out another $2,000.00. I wake up today, check my account... nothing. Completely screwed. This is not the first time this guy has pulled this shit. Since I've made this crappy business deal with him, I've had other webmasters tell me similar stories. Now, thanks to this asshole, all my bills are late this month, I wasn't able to pay my mortgage and car payment, and the bank is probably going to start foreclosure on my house. He's been consistantly late paying me (I've had a late fee tacked to my mortgage every month for the last six months) and this month didn't even pay me even half of the agreed amount. He told me he had a "busy month," yet I've seen him posting on message boards how he's been sitting around playing video games. Real busy. Ignore my IM's. Delete my threads. Nice try, Spunky. I want the money you owe me, and if you don't pay-up, you're not only fucking over me, but fucking over the model whose site I sold you since you forced me to shut down the domain. I'm sure she'll be happy to know you fucked me over once again and in the process, burned her as well. Not fun having your mortgage company call you every single day wondering where their money is. Not fun knowing your car will be repossessed soon. All because the guy who's suppose to run a "tight ship" and "big program" is treating you with complete disrespect and not paying you what he agreed to pay you. I feel sorry for the other webmasters he's screwed. I know how they feel, trust me. I'm beyond pissed. (Also posted this in Buy and Sell, but had numerous requests to move it here.) __________________ Need a Cheap Design? - Cheap Quality Content Available! Fuck you Michelle Malkin and Fox News Last edited by Vendzilla; 11-29-2007 at 02:32 PM.. Reason: Don't link to other forum's, its a rule, I checked

11-29-2007, 01:39 PM	#2
thonglife So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US Posts: 1,566	I've always wondered what was going around with you two guy juggling solo girl sites around. It's annoying as hell to constantly change link codes for the programs you guys go back and forth on. Last edited by thonglife; 11-29-2007 at 01:40 PM..

11-29-2007, 01:39 PM	#3
abadfish Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 1,482	reminds me of this thread... http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=763511 __________________ Reanna Mae

11-29-2007, 01:39 PM	#4
BusterBunny perverted justice decoy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: unborn still in the womb connected via blackberry Posts: 19,291	spotting...... __________________ my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

11-29-2007, 01:42 PM	#5
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11-29-2007, 01:44 PM	#6
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	Do I need popcorn ?

11-29-2007, 01:47 PM	#7
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Was this agreement in writing? If so, was it created by an attorney? If not, you just took a lesson in Business 101.

11-29-2007, 01:48 PM	#8
erosfagmaster Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 20	I think he may have snubbed me once.

11-29-2007, 01:51 PM	#9
Some Guy Affordable Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,750	He had the nerve to PM me and threaten me after I posted a little comment about the money he owes on his board. What a guy. He ignored the IM's I sent him, but was obviously online since he removed my thread and also PM'ed me. Since posting this I've already received a few IM's from other people he's burned. People need to speak up, not sit back and be scared of this guy. __________________ Need a Cheap Design? - Cheap Quality Content Available! Fuck you Michelle Malkin and Fox News

11-29-2007, 01:51 PM	#10
Will Black Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 261	Bizup for da resolution.

11-29-2007, 01:52 PM	#11
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	this may get big...

11-29-2007, 01:55 PM	#12
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11-29-2007, 02:05 PM	#13
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11-29-2007, 02:07 PM	#14
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11-29-2007, 02:14 PM	#15
Some Guy Affordable Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,750	I'd have to say the one good thing about SpunkyCash is Erik, who's been extremely nice to me during all of this and is currently working behind the scenes to resolve things. Even sent me some money from his own account to help ease tension. Stand-up guy, right there. __________________ Need a Cheap Design? - Cheap Quality Content Available! Fuck you Michelle Malkin and Fox News

11-29-2007, 02:22 PM	#16
D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	Hmm... Might wanna hit a mod up to remove that forum's url from your inital post. People have been banned for less. Good luck getting everything straightened out. __________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

11-29-2007, 02:29 PM	#17
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	I will weigh in on this matter soon - I should have done it on behalf of a friend who has gone through the same thing for a year and a half with this deadbeat but I didn't want to get involved at the time - shame on me. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-29-2007, 02:36 PM	#20
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11-29-2007, 02:43 PM	#22
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=763511 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=783593 __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-29-2007, 02:44 PM	#23
tigermtb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,062	Never had a problem getting paid for anything. I have been paid by Spunky for items ranging from $25 to $6,000. __________________ Jay \| JuicyAds Founder Businessman of the Year [YNOT Awards 2013] The most awarded adult advertising network with 25+ XBIZ, GFY, and YNOT Awards.

11-29-2007, 02:54 PM	#26
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	A few of the things I have learned over time: 1. NEVER put yourself in a position where you wont be able to meet your obligations if X, Y and Z don't pay on time. Always assume that no one will pay on time and then allow yourself to be pleasantly surprised when they do. 2. NEVER extend credit to people who you do not implicitly trust. For those you do extend credit to, always have written agreement signed by the parties and have it notarized. Banks exist to loan money, you should exist to sell stuff, not compete with the banks. 3. NEVER allow payments to get more than one cycle behind. If they do, the deal is off and the deal goes directly to the lawyers for litigation. Even if the guy IS in the hospital or his (insert some family connection here) died. 4. ALWAYS have a provision in your agreement that allows you to automatically withdraw payment(s) due you via ACH from the person's bank account if they are not made voluntarily on time. Using a service like paybycheck.com, this is easy to do and its perfectly legal because it is authorized by the account holder when they signup. 5. For large deals, require all checks to be sent by FedEx or equivalent. That puts a stop the 'ole "Checks in the mail" bullshit real fast. Not that any of this advice will help you now, sounds like you are too late for this one.

11-29-2007, 03:02 PM	#27
tigermtb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,062	Sounds like you have financial issues to begin with... esp if you're foreclosing over $5k missing per month. __________________ Jay \| JuicyAds Founder Businessman of the Year [YNOT Awards 2013] The most awarded adult advertising network with 25+ XBIZ, GFY, and YNOT Awards. Last edited by tigermtb; 11-29-2007 at 03:05 PM..

11-29-2007, 03:11 PM	#30
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	It sucks when people don't pay their dues

11-29-2007, 03:13 PM	#31
Paysighting Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 850	I trust Matt 100%! The last 13 months he has paid me +38k, and i've never had any problems.

11-29-2007, 03:17 PM	#32
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,359	nngalleries owner is a douchebag __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

11-29-2007, 03:38 PM	#35
spunky99 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,462	lawyer has been informed.. thats all i will say.. __________________ Spunky Cash - GND Bank - Good Girls Bank - Bliss Bucks - Nuts For Mobile - Daddy I Get Paid To Be A Whore Click Here To Make Money With Spunky - Domains For Sale - ICQ 281841678