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				Win XP out performs Vista
			 
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			It is sad that Microsoft is putting deadlines on computer makers to install Vista on their machines. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9590_22-6...ml?tag=nl.e550 
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		 Here is service pack 3 for XP if anybody want to try it out. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 So what's new? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 xp is working great for me... Though I havent tried vista yet. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Vista sucks camel wiener. Everyone knows that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Is it true that with vista you cant view websites corrrectly that have png files 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I hope not because I have Joomla themed website that use a lot of PNG images. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 gotta love how MS is forcing that POS on manufacturers... +1 reason why I'll be building my own computer and/or buying a man 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 I've been pretty satisfied with Vista. Sure some fatal errors pop up now and then, but everyone program I've installed runs smoothly. 
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		 I think it happens if you are using IE 7 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'll probably only upgrade to Vista once XP updates officially cease. I'm not really that keen on buying new versions of some of my expensive software that work properly with it, or finding that my older hw has no vista driver. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Biggest dis I've heard about Vista is it immediately allocates all of your system memory for itself and then dishes it out to other applications as they need it. For people like many of us who encode and edit videos, that sucks, because instead of needing two gigs of RAM, we need four.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Vista is very stable, however you need a dual core system. Most of the test are using Intel systems and not AMD... Try running XP 32bit on a 64bit system... You can install it, however there are issues... then you say well why not get XP 64bit... right??? ... well XP 64bit is actually a modified MS 2003 server and will not run much of anything... and there are driver issues... So then you say if you are a gamer lets try vista... Now Vista 64bit is far from perfect, however it is hell of a lot more stable then XP... there are some  XP video games that will not run and there is not the driver support as of yet, however the alternative is using linux/gui and if you are a gamer such is out of the question ! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Of the 5 people that I know with macs that upgraded, 4 of them went back to the old version after just a couple days with the new OS. You mean Vista runs faster on some specific hardware then other. Macs have it easy, they right one set of drivers, because they control what hardware people use, Try putting a different video card into a mac and see how well it works. Windows makes an OS thats supposed to work on an almost unlimited amount of different configurations of hardware. Quote: 
	
 Yes Vista will allocate every last bit of ram not being used. Why wouldnt it? RAM that is sitting un used is wasted ram, might as well put it to use. The good thing abotu vista is it actually knows how to properly allocate RAM usage unlike XP. When you render video Vista will give up all the ram the rendering program can use. And of course editors are using 4gb instead of 2 now, why wouldnt they, vista can actually use 4gb unlike XP. 4gb will run slower then 2gb in a vista system. 
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		 Here we go again. We have had this thread 10 times now. 90% of the people who claim Vista sucks are pathetic dumb sheep who havent even tried it! Then 5% who have tried and have no clue how to configure an OS (yes, Vista sucks out of the box) and then the final 5% who truly have problems. Could be anything. Hardware, software etc. XP users also have this as any other OS. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 1) I was testing Vista on the same PC where I have XP installed (Core 2 Duo/2Gb RAM). 2) Course I'm also getting the info from the other sources as well. The ZNet article mentioned above is one of those sources. 1) According to my personal feeling - yes, it's very slow. 2) According to ZNet's tests: it works more than 2 times slower than XP (80 seconds instead of 30 seconds on a same test) 
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		 Funny then...  it was a race I performed... I rendered the exact same 3D image on  both the XP unit and new vista dual core. The exact same same settings and tweaks.  Hit enter and let em rip. Vista blows the doors off XP by maybe 20 seconds, put it this way, maybe a 5 car length finish advantage for vista over XP. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Yes I had headaches at first. look up 50 tweaks for vista - turn on your proccessor to 100% and its a whole new animal. BUT ---BUT I DO need help unsticking my vista dreamweaver properties box from the bottom of the screen. Otherwise its light years faster than the old workhorse XP. I felt the same way but once I was forced to make it work, it wasn't that bad.  | 
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