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master_blaster · 11-22-2007, 05:23 AM

give us a link YAP ...

WetNLive · 11-22-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by master_blaster

None of you that received this email from Epass did not say if that account was verified with Epass by sending them the requested Documents. Gov. ID, Utility Bill etc.

Are you verified or not ?
If not maybe this is the problem

No offense dude, but I'm not going to provide that information to a non-banking, non-regulated, non-insured entity like ePass. Especially with the history of keeping this information protected and private like they have had in the recent past.

Besides, most of the big sponsors check you out, and require that you fill out tax paperwork before they will create your affiliate account anyway. Hell, some of them even require references from other programs nowadays, before accepting you.

This whole thing is just insulting, if you ask me. Banks can't make changes to the terms of their ATM or Credit Cards like this without providing 60 days advance notice here in the USA (or is it 90 days...I forget). I guess that's the difference between a regulated industry, like banking, and a non-regulated pay system like ePass.

If it is now because of some security concern, then where was that concern when they were fucking people over, allowing theft, and freezing accounts a while back. Too little too late in my opinion.

hateman · 11-22-2007, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetNLive

This whole thing is just insulting, if you ask me. Banks can't make changes to the terms of their ATM or Credit Cards

You just said yourself that epass is a non banking entity.

If you don't like it - don't use it.

cams2chat · 11-22-2007, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman

my account is verified and i didnt get any such emails

Yes and so is my personal account and I dont get these emails.

I am amazed that so many dont get it. They whine about Epassporte taking Gambling money yet whine more that Epassporte wants to have basic checks in place as to who owns some of these accounts. There are a lot worse things accounts can be used for than gambling and anything that improves the system and security is fine by me.

I keep a large balance in Epassporte, I supply people with cards and I am happy they are making sure things are secure.

WetNLive · 11-22-2007, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman

You just said yourself that epass is a non banking entity.

If you don't like it - don't use it.

There's always got to be one in the crowd.

If I had known they were gonna pull this shit, I never would have started with them a couple of years ago.

Making a change like this, literally overnight, at this time of year is a major pain in the ass, and seriously impedes my cash flow for about 6 weeks. Some of my sponsors are from Europe, and with the delays involved in receiving and processing a check from them, it sets me back about 4 weeks vs. receiving a payment via ePass.

BTW - WTF is that Militant, Gay, White Power, Neo-Nazi dance video you have in your sig? Is that supposed to tie in with your board name or something?

Zuss · 11-22-2007, 05:44 AM

That's techno viking.

And it would be sbdolutely HORRID if this policy would affect my account. How am I supposed to change hundreds of sponsor accounts? Hell, I don't even remember all of them but still recieve epass payments once in a while.....fuck that shit.

hateman · 11-22-2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetNLive

There's always got to be one in the crowd.

If I had known they were gonna pull this shit, I never would have started with them a couple of years ago.

You said you knew from the start that epass were a non-banking institution.

You knowingly accepted this and all associated risks. So stop whining

WetNLive · 11-22-2007, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman

You said you knew from the start that epass were a non-banking institution.

You knowingly accepted this and all associated risks. So stop whining

I'm not whining. I have an "Affiliate Account", not some gambling account, and here is a screen shot from the ePass site showing the account features I'm supposed to have:

Can't find anything on their site saying I need to be verified in order to use these features.

If you don't like what I have to say, then just put me on ignore, or go find another thread to harass people in.

Oracle Porn · 11-22-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave

All epassporte users should be aware though that they are at risk. If they pay us, and then epass goes out of business... we still haven't received payment for example, so they will be out 2 times the money.

wow...lol your company suck....your company choose to accept epassporte so your company should be aware that they are at risk....you are shifting the blame on your customers? wow thank god I don't host with you...
once the money left my account i dont give a flying fuck if the sky fall...i paid my dues.

JohnnyJames · 11-22-2007, 06:03 AM

No comments on the TIMING of this?

Happened last night, the DAY BEFORE Thanksgiving in the states, with a 4 day holiday for most in the US?

I don't know anything about Epass, but the timing on this looks sneaky as hell, or at the least, very poor judgement on their part. Either way, not good. . .

Oracle Porn · 11-22-2007, 06:04 AM

thank god i didn't get this msg *knock on wood* ...everytime a thread on gfy about epass hits page 2 my heart jumps a little.

The Duck · 11-22-2007, 06:05 AM

Epass had my account locked a week ago or so and have yet failed to inform me why, I have sent them documents 4 times and they reply with a standard pre-written message that I have to send documents every time. The support has been very bad and the lack of information very unprofessional.

I will phase out my use of epassporte and look for other services over the next few months.

campimp · 11-22-2007, 06:21 AM

i have an affiliate card from AWE that got the above message about feature changes, but i have a gift account as well, and that one did not get the message.

but the gift account used to be able to send and recieve money from other gift accounts, and now that is not working.. so who knows...

not a good situation and makes me wonder if my payments will be coming or not

Zuss · 11-22-2007, 06:29 AM

Maybe it's affecting AWE accounts because they advertise the fact that they're handing out non-verified accounts in a very open manner. No wonder it attracts people who misuse epass gift accounts as they would use AWE just as a tool to get the card.

teg0 · 11-22-2007, 06:32 AM

I hope that doesn't happen to my account. I've had it for a long time, but I think it was originally one that I got from a sponsor.

tranza · 11-22-2007, 06:40 AM

Keep us posted man... I'd really like to know why they did that and if they plan on doing this to everybodies accounts..

Ross · 11-22-2007, 07:09 AM

I guess this only affects people who had accounts opened for them? I signed up to epass directly for my account and I didn't get this.

I hope everything with my account is ok.

Klen · 11-22-2007, 07:26 AM

I am even from limited country yet again i have all possible features,including opening aff accounts.

Michael O · 11-22-2007, 08:25 AM

This rule change have happened because of the account type you have please email me your UserID to [email protected] and we will review your account on Monday and see if the restrictions can be lifted from your account.
I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing you.

Thanks
Michael Olsen

YAP · 11-22-2007, 08:35 AM

Monday... argh..

Some people got on the phone with epass and they all got the same response.. The company who gave you the account needs to give permission to get funds trough other company's.

AlexShark · 11-22-2007, 08:39 AM

None of this shit would happen if epassporte would require more than a simple username and password to send money to other accounts.
Seems that security keys like fethard for example are something to discover in year 3000.
After all they come from the totally unsecure crap of epoch where the antifraud system allows more fraud transactions than legit ones.
Congrats!

digital-bliss · 11-22-2007, 11:34 AM

I got my account restricted because of dumb reasons, I tried calling their support system but of no avail.

I messaged Michael O as my last resort, and he did the impossible :D he lifted all the restrictions and is working mighty fine again :D

If you have an epass problem, Michael O is your best bet

JamesK · 11-22-2007, 11:40 AM

Michael just told me that if you did not get the message in your inbox by now you don't have to worry about getting your account restricted.

If you do just hit him up at ICQ# 95431302

blogman9 · 11-22-2007, 11:47 AM

Added to: http://www.thereisnomoneyinporn.com

ez12 · 11-22-2007, 11:51 AM

Mail send Michael.. I hope you can clear somethings up for me

baddog · 11-22-2007, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjnet

Unfortunately that's not possible for many europeans.

Why not? They have credit cards in the EU. I have seen them.

~Ray · 11-22-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalownz

what the ??

i got my epass from 1 sponsor

but i have other sponsors that pay me out on to the same account

I only want 1 epass card not 20+ cards

do the math

soopamanluva · 11-22-2007, 01:18 PM

It sucks! I didn't see this until now! SHIT

rajs41 · 11-22-2007, 01:20 PM

so what will do about this?

Gambit · 11-22-2007, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Why not? I did it, and I'm Dutch. You just need a CC to verify the acount. That's all. And in many countries in the EU you can get a creditcard. So I don't see the problem?

They don't accept mastercards anymore. So i'm European, have a credit card but still can't verify.

BogY_KinG · 11-22-2007, 02:53 PM

This is CRAZY!!! What is wrong!!!??

smutnut · 11-22-2007, 05:30 PM

Yea, though I walk through the valley of death...

Scotty.T · 11-22-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Why not? They have credit cards in the EU. I have seen them.

Not all CC/banks show or make the pending amounts, required to verify the account, available on statements or the consumer level system unfortunately.

BucksMania · 11-22-2007, 06:29 PM

just open your own personal acc, not a one created by a sponsor and you should be ok

minusonebit · 11-22-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

This rule change have happened because of the account type you have please email me your UserID to [email protected] and we will review your account on Monday and see if the restrictions can be lifted from your account.
I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing you.

Thanks
Michael Olsen

Need to change that little logo to an ePass one on that desk.

IllTestYourGirls · 11-22-2007, 06:55 PM

why am I agreeing with you so much Baddog, such an easy solution. $35 bucks or something like that and get your own card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Could be it. I can understand that. Maybe the risk factor has gotten too high with those type of accounts.

So, open your own with your own info. Problem solved.

MoreMagic · 11-22-2007, 08:59 PM

Epass is taking Mastercard again. So your problem must be solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambit

They don't accept mastercards anymore. So i'm European, have a credit card but still can't verify.

Poontank · 11-22-2007, 09:05 PM

MediaGuy · 11-22-2007, 09:09 PM

Yo

Didn't read the whole hread but

get a Visa card account - you'll be home freeeee

Lee at Payoneer · 11-27-2007, 11:48 AM

What can I say other than "thanks" to all the guys who having received and used our cards, had positive experiences and are spreading the word.

If you have any requests or suggestions we're always happy to hear them as it helps us focus on whats important for our cardholders to try and improve the service.
Warmest regards,
Lee.

[ScreaM] · 11-27-2007, 11:50 AM

I love epassporte.

candyflip · 11-27-2007, 11:50 AM

I just read the first few posts before posting, but it seems like people will bitch no matter what happens at ePass.

No security. Let's bitch.
New security. Let's bitch about that now.

They can't win, shitty service aside.

Michael O · 11-27-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee at Payoneer

What can I say other than "thanks" to all the guys who having received and used our cards, had positive experiences and are spreading the word.

If you have any requests or suggestions we're always happy to hear them as it helps us focus on whats important for our cardholders to try and improve the service.
Warmest regards,
Lee.

Thanks Lee for bumping the thread I hope I can return the courtesy one day.
It give me the chance to post this:

ePassporte sent out a message on November 21, 2007 regarding modifications to some Account. If you received this notification please disregard this notification, as these changes have been reverted and your Account will work as it did before you received the message.

We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused and thank you for your patience. ePassporte will re-evaluate this policy and provide a suitable solution for all Account Holders. You will be notified well in advance of any modifications to your Account.

IllTestYourGirls · 11-27-2007, 12:38 PM

Michael you have email. Thanks

11-22-2007, 05:44 AM	#56
Zuss Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,187	That's techno viking. And it would be sbdolutely HORRID if this policy would affect my account. How am I supposed to change hundreds of sponsor accounts? Hell, I don't even remember all of them but still recieve epass payments once in a while.....fuck that shit. __________________ I like cookies.

11-22-2007, 06:04 AM	#61
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,432	thank god i didn't get this msg knock on wood ...everytime a thread on gfy about epass hits page 2 my heart jumps a little. __________________

11-22-2007, 06:05 AM	#62
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	Epass had my account locked a week ago or so and have yet failed to inform me why, I have sent them documents 4 times and they reply with a standard pre-written message that I have to send documents every time. The support has been very bad and the lack of information very unprofessional. I will phase out my use of epassporte and look for other services over the next few months. __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

11-22-2007, 06:29 AM	#64
Zuss Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,187	Maybe it's affecting AWE accounts because they advertise the fact that they're handing out non-verified accounts in a very open manner. No wonder it attracts people who misuse epass gift accounts as they would use AWE just as a tool to get the card. __________________ I like cookies.

11-22-2007, 06:32 AM	#65
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,197	I hope that doesn't happen to my account. I've had it for a long time, but I think it was originally one that I got from a sponsor. __________________ OV Tube - Tube Script Software

11-22-2007, 05:23 AM	#51
master_blaster Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 75	give us a link YAP ...

11-22-2007, 06:03 AM	#60
JohnnyJames Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 621	No comments on the TIMING of this? Happened last night, the DAY BEFORE Thanksgiving in the states, with a 4 day holiday for most in the US? I don't know anything about Epass, but the timing on this looks sneaky as hell, or at the least, very poor judgement on their part. Either way, not good. . .

11-22-2007, 06:21 AM	#63
campimp Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Gamehendge Posts: 1,336	i have an affiliate card from AWE that got the above message about feature changes, but i have a gift account as well, and that one did not get the message. but the gift account used to be able to send and recieve money from other gift accounts, and now that is not working.. so who knows... not a good situation and makes me wonder if my payments will be coming or not

11-22-2007, 06:40 AM	#66
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Keep us posted man... I'd really like to know why they did that and if they plan on doing this to everybodies accounts.. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

11-22-2007, 07:09 AM	#67
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	I guess this only affects people who had accounts opened for them? I signed up to epass directly for my account and I didn't get this. I hope everything with my account is ok.

11-22-2007, 07:26 AM	#68
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,234	I am even from limited country yet again i have all possible features,including opening aff accounts. __________________ For GFY administration inquiries- email info at gfy.com or send PM. For advertising inquiries - email marketing at gfy.com Inquiries which are not related to administration or advertising on GFY wont be processed.

11-22-2007, 08:25 AM	#69
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	This rule change have happened because of the account type you have please email me your UserID to [email protected] and we will review your account on Monday and see if the restrictions can be lifted from your account. I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing you. Thanks Michael Olsen __________________ Truth Teller

11-22-2007, 08:35 AM	#70
YAP So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 177	Monday... argh.. Some people got on the phone with epass and they all got the same response.. The company who gave you the account needs to give permission to get funds trough other company's. Last edited by YAP; 11-22-2007 at 08:37 AM..

11-22-2007, 08:39 AM	#71
AlexShark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 476	None of this shit would happen if epassporte would require more than a simple username and password to send money to other accounts. Seems that security keys like fethard for example are something to discover in year 3000. After all they come from the totally unsecure crap of epoch where the antifraud system allows more fraud transactions than legit ones. Congrats! __________________ Last edited by AlexShark; 11-22-2007 at 08:41 AM..

11-22-2007, 11:34 AM	#72
digital-bliss Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 100	I got my account restricted because of dumb reasons, I tried calling their support system but of no avail. I messaged Michael O as my last resort, and he did the impossible :D he lifted all the restrictions and is working mighty fine again :D If you have an epass problem, Michael O is your best bet

11-22-2007, 11:40 AM	#73
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	Michael just told me that if you did not get the message in your inbox by now you don't have to worry about getting your account restricted. If you do just hit him up at ICQ# 95431302 __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

11-22-2007, 11:47 AM	#74
blogman9 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,261	Added to: http://www.thereisnomoneyinporn.com

11-22-2007, 11:51 AM	#75
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	Mail send Michael.. I hope you can clear somethings up for me __________________ Main sites: Duclerck.com & Diderote.com My Hosting: AmeriNOC My Sponsors: NewNudeCash, Silvercash, Sapphic Cash, BCash4you Email: webmaster @ duclerck.com

11-22-2007, 01:18 PM	#78
soopamanluva Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: not far Posts: 7,070	It sucks! I didn't see this until now! SHIT __________________ I need $$$$$

11-22-2007, 01:20 PM	#79
rajs41 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA - Sr. Partner, co-CEO & Co-founder of MGA (Miller/Gold Talent Agency) and Owner of TMA (Terrence McQuewick Agency) Posts: 6,470	so what will do about this?

11-22-2007, 02:53 PM	#81
BogY_KinG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,870	This is CRAZY!!! What is wrong!!!??

11-22-2007, 05:30 PM	#82
smutnut So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,889	Yea, though I walk through the valley of death...

11-22-2007, 06:29 PM	#84
BucksMania Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,758	just open your own personal acc, not a one created by a sponsor and you should be ok

11-22-2007, 09:05 PM	#88
Poontank So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 200

11-22-2007, 09:09 PM	#89
MediaGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Montrealquebecanada Posts: 5,500	Yo Didn't read the whole hread but get a Visa card account - you'll be home freeeee __________________ YOU Are Industry News! Press Releases: pr[at]payoutmag.com Facebook: Payout Magazine! Facebook: MIKEB! ICQ: 248843947 Skype: Mediaguy1

11-27-2007, 11:48 AM	#90
Lee at Payoneer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 68	What can I say other than "thanks" to all the guys who having received and used our cards, had positive experiences and are spreading the word. If you have any requests or suggestions we're always happy to hear them as it helps us focus on whats important for our cardholders to try and improve the service. Warmest regards, Lee.

11-27-2007, 11:50 AM	#91
[ScreaM] Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,664	I love epassporte.

11-27-2007, 11:50 AM	#92
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,030	I just read the first few posts before posting, but it seems like people will bitch no matter what happens at ePass. No security. Let's bitch. New security. Let's bitch about that now. They can't win, shitty service aside. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

11-27-2007, 12:38 PM	#94
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	Michael you have email. Thanks __________________