SO Comcast is getting sued for screwing with P2P - GoFuckYourself.com

RawAlex · 11-15-2007, 09:41 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071115/...scrimination_5

I have to ask the obvious question: the guy(s) making this lawsuit, did they consider that the RIAA and MPAA are very likely to target them specifically because they are obvious and public users of P2P?

Would an admission of using a P2P network be enough to merit a visit form the feds, a warrant, or perhaps a lawsuit? I understand that there is some legal P2P, but it is a pretty small part of the overall whole out there.

Just a thought.

Cyndalie · 11-15-2007, 09:51 AM

Not all file sharing means the exchange of copyrighted files. He could be trading home videos and other self made files.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-15-2007, 10:01 AM

not to mention all the other LEGAL ways to use torrents and p2p, such as linux distros and legal music from independent artists

Snake Doctor · 11-15-2007, 10:18 AM

RawAlex · 11-15-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Not all file sharing means the exchange of copyrighted files. He could be trading home videos and other self made files.

I always get a laugh out of this idea. For the most part, if you were going to share files with friends, you would just send them the file, or upload it somewhere for them to watch. P2P is a very high overhead protocol when moving a file from A to B. Use FTP, email, almost anything else is more effecient.

Jaysin, how many linux distros does the average guy download to say "I am having problems connecting to P2P?" and how many independant artist songs would they have to download to be concerned about certain network outages that can slow downloads?

The person filing the suit would have to be a power user, using P2P often enough and long enough to (a) notice a dropoff in speed, and (b) have enough experience to know that this is not a normal dropoff.

You don't think he will get a little knock on the door one of these days?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-15-2007, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Jaysin, how many linux distros does the average guy download to say "I am having problems connecting to P2P?" and how many independant artist songs would they have to download to be concerned about certain network outages that can slow downloads?

they completely shut off that protocol, theres no downloading at all

little jimmy just found out ubuntu had a security patch and its a huge file, goes to download the torrent link because obviously everyone and there mother who uses ubuntu has downloaded that, so a 500mb file should download in seconds... click link, NOTHING, WTF!! oh yeah, comcast cut off that protocol, looks like little jimmy is fucked.

kektex · 11-15-2007, 02:57 PM

World of Warcraft distributes its patches using bittorrent as far as I know.
I would be very pissed if I found out I couldnt download a patch for a game I paid using a service I am paying for.

RawAlex · 11-15-2007, 04:04 PM

Jaysin, no, they did not shut off that protocol entirely. Far from it. However, what their platform does is that it sends out cancel or drops to remote systems involved int he transfer of files, using the IP of the their end user. So the remote system thinkgs the connection was cancelled or the send somehow failed, and that block is lost. They don't do it for all packets or all connections, but rather in relationship to traffic levels in various segements (this is based on info I could find when I looked into the product they are apparently using).

It isn't a protocol block, sorry. Perhaps you would like to read and be better informed before you go off on something like this?

RawAlex · 11-15-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kektex

World of Warcraft distributes its patches using bittorrent as far as I know.
I would be very pissed if I found out I couldnt download a patch for a game I paid using a service I am paying for.

If I was a game player, I would be frightened to take patched via bittorrent. It would be so easy for someone to put together a nice hack package and hide it out inside what appears to be an official release. Your download has gone through many, many people's hands on the way to you. It could be fucked with at any time.

Why are companies so fucking cheap that they can't just run a fucking straight download anymore?

pr0 · 11-15-2007, 04:14 PM

its interesting how these anti p2p people sure do know a whole lot about p2p

i know a whole lot about whores, wanna know how?

i fucked em

otherwise everyone that ever did, would obviously know i had just "read about it"

you sure seem to know a lot about p2p

11-15-2007, 09:41 AM	#1
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	SO Comcast is getting sued for screwing with P2P http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071115/...scrimination_5 I have to ask the obvious question: the guy(s) making this lawsuit, did they consider that the RIAA and MPAA are very likely to target them specifically because they are obvious and public users of P2P? Would an admission of using a P2P network be enough to merit a visit form the feds, a warrant, or perhaps a lawsuit? I understand that there is some legal P2P, but it is a pretty small part of the overall whole out there. Just a thought.

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kektex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: elkektex at gmail Posts: 1,813	World of Warcraft distributes its patches using bittorrent as far as I know. I would be very pissed if I found out I couldnt download a patch for a game I paid using a service I am paying for.

11-15-2007, 04:04 PM	#8
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Jaysin, no, they did not shut off that protocol entirely. Far from it. However, what their platform does is that it sends out cancel or drops to remote systems involved int he transfer of files, using the IP of the their end user. So the remote system thinkgs the connection was cancelled or the send somehow failed, and that block is lost. They don't do it for all packets or all connections, but rather in relationship to traffic levels in various segements (this is based on info I could find when I looked into the product they are apparently using). It isn't a protocol block, sorry. Perhaps you would like to read and be better informed before you go off on something like this?