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papill0n 11-14-2007 02:34 PM

Move to Australia - no tipping going on here :)

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 13372450)
Where did I say that everyone who doesn't agree with me is a scumbag asshole or uncivilized? I said that reading threads like this makes it easy to tell who is and who isn't. I never stated my opinion on the topic at hand, (tipping) it's just that I saw a lot of very telling statements from people, on both sides of the issue.

You're really riled up about this huh?

rile up?

how would i be "riled up"... contrary to your own inflated view of yourself, you are just pixels on a monitor.

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 13372465)
Yes and thats where I hate it in the States. They should be paid their min wage by the restaurant like any other worker. All it does is put the weight of paying the employee on the customer and you feel guilted into doing it no matter the service because you know they get paid $2.50 an hour. In Canada they get min wage which is in BC $8/hr. So they get paid. I tip when good service, I tip some for ok service and none for bad service.

jackass... we are basically saying the same thing... yet you "wouldn't expect me to get it"... because i have no "class" (using your best forum Donald Trump vs Rosie impression)

as you said above... i don't see tips as being an entitlement. of course i tip.


its not what waiters and waitresses gets paid that influences my decision. the hourly wage is lower because the hourly wage isn't their sole source of income on the job and has almost ZERO to do with their actual earnings. what they earn depends on them, their skill and whether or not they are professional and do a great job.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 11-14-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372496)
rile up?

how would i be "riled up"... contrary to your own inflated view of yourself, you are just pixels on a monitor.

I thought you were "riled up" because you SEEMED to be quite upset about my original post in this thread. If that's a misinterpretation than I apologize.

I don't really have an inflated view of myself. I'm a small fish actually. I do have a rule against arguing on the internet though, so I have to leave now. :)

PS. the sites in your sig crack me up

TripleXPrint 11-14-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372471)
i also understand the difference between a big party and the demands of that big party vs two people having lunch and situations where it can be expected to add a service charge or gratuity to the bill.

I'm sorry but 8 people is not a "big party" by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not sure why he needed help waiting on a table of 8? I've gone to restaurants with 20 people and had one server handling us AND other tables.

Oh, and you were a dumbass for assuming. You should have left the 20% on and called it a fucking day! Dumbass.

Forest 11-14-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 13372465)
Yes and thats where I hate it in the States. They should be paid their min wage by the restaurant like any other worker. All it does is put the weight of paying the employee on the customer and you feel guilted into doing it no matter the service because you know they get paid $2.50 an hour. In Canada they get min wage which is in BC $8/hr. So they get paid. I tip when good service, I tip some for ok service and none for bad service.

In the US I tip no matter what because they paid jack and its a joke. I do make sure they know why they got "less" though. The real sad part is the cost of food in the US restaurants and the Canadian restaurants is barely anything, yet the US places pay $5 less per hour to each waiter/waitress on staff. So who really is the loser and winner?

i Always added the tip if i noticed a canadian accent for this reason

not that they are cheap just that their system is different then ours

i did the same for most euros for the same reason

While tipping is still an option that is based on service it is still a common courtesy imho to tip atleast 15% if you received good service.

My avg tip starts at 20% as i was in the biz along time and i know how hard the work is. Now with that being said you can work your way down in the tip very easily and i have been known to tip 25 even 30% for exceptional service

ShellyCrash 11-14-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13372332)
Who knows.

I forwarded him this thread just to be certain.

Yes, really.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I just laughed so hard it hurt. Nice.

Forest 11-14-2007 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13372479)
Move to Australia - no tipping going on here :)

yeah but they add the "cost" of the waitstaff into the price of the food.

there is no difference in the end of the price of the meal generally

just here in the states u get the option to pay a little more if you get better service or not pay for the service at all

For instance some friends and i went to a national chain restaraunt last night. the waiter was fucking horrible and that reflected in a 10% tip

I always leave a tip. how much u get depends on how good your service is

Pics Traffic 11-14-2007 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 13369579)
Want to have fun wth the waitress. Put about 5 or what ever depending on the place. 5$ bills on the table. and tell her thats your tip. Each time I wait or my drink goes dry a bill comes off.

Thas how you get visine eye drops in your drink and end up spending next 12 hours on the shitter. Never piss off waiter.. never..

Evil E 11-14-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13372536)
i Always added the tip if i noticed a canadian accent for this reason

not that they are cheap just that their system is different then ours

i did the same for most euros for the same reason

While tipping is still an option that is based on service it is still a common courtesy imho to tip atleast 15% if you received good service.

My avg tip starts at 20% as i was in the biz along time and i know how hard the work is. Now with that being said you can work your way down in the tip very easily and i have been known to tip 25 even 30% for exceptional service

Everyone I know in Canada tips typically at least 15-20% for normal-expected service. And I live in Canada too.

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 13372535)
I'm sorry but 8 people is not a "big party" by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not sure why he needed help waiting on a table of 8? I've gone to restaurants with 20 people and had one server handling us AND other tables.

Oh, and you were a dumbass for assuming. You should have left the 20% on and called it a fucking day! Dumbass.

i can only assume that english is your 3rd language or that you are mildly retarded and someone is typing for you as you scribble out your message on a notepad with a crayon you are carefully gripping with your mouth.

i was simply saying that i can understand adding the gratuity to the bill for large parties. thats all. i wasn't trying to define "large party".

do you tip your full time caregiver thats wiping the drool from your mouth while typing for you?

TripleXPrint 11-14-2007 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372570)
i can only assume that english is your 3rd language or that you are mildly retarded and someone is typing for you as you scribble out your message on a notepad with a crayon you are carefully gripping with your mouth.

i was simply saying that i can understand adding the gratuity to the bill for large parties. thats all. i wasn't trying to define "large party".

do you tip your full time caregiver thats wiping the drool from your mouth while typing for you?

Listen up douchebag, I was quoting your statement just as an example, I wasn't debating your post. But based on your response, which I find highly ironic, I can assume that English is your 4th language and your first three are; Ebonics, Dumbfuck, and Pig Latin (not in that particular order). Get over yourself, dumbass and if you're going to call people out for being retarded try looking at what you type first or at least have your overweight girlfriend proof read it for ya.

Thanks champ, now put your helmet back on. Don't want to fall and hurt yourself.

Forest 11-14-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by knew (Post 13372568)
Everyone I know in Canada tips typically at least 15-20% for normal-expected service. And I live in Canada too.

really? i stand corrected. it had been my experience when living in the keys that most canadians didnt tip well

my appologize to any offended canadians who tip

:winkwink:

buzzy 11-14-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372570)
i can only assume that english is your 3rd language

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Says the guy who can't use commas or paragraphs to save his life. :1orglaugh

Forest 11-14-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA (Post 13372561)
Thas how you get visine eye drops in your drink and end up spending next 12 hours on the shitter. Never piss off waiter.. never..

i worked for a chef once who got so pissed off at a customer that he pulled out his nut sack and droped them right on to the clients fish

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

that guy was nuts

:upsidedow

TripleXPrint 11-14-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13372638)
really? i stand corrected. it had been my experience when living in the keys that most canadians didnt tip well

my appologize to any offended canadians who tip

:winkwink:

I lived in the Keys as well (Marathon) and there was an on-going joke.

What's the difference between a Canadian and a Canoe? A canoe tips. :thumbsup

tony286 11-14-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 13372535)
I'm sorry but 8 people is not a "big party" by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not sure why he needed help waiting on a table of 8? I've gone to restaurants with 20 people and had one server handling us AND other tables.

Oh, and you were a dumbass for assuming. You should have left the 20% on and called it a fucking day! Dumbass.

For a full service restaurant it is a bigger party, for a diner its not. I agree about tipping at starbucks but at a restaurant. Also I would throw guess most of you never worked for a tip so you wouldnt understand.

Forest 11-14-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372570)
i can only assume that english is your 3rd language or that you are mildly retarded and someone is typing for you as you scribble out your message on a notepad with a crayon you are carefully gripping with your mouth.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

man u fucking crack me up

im glad our days of pissing with eachother are long gone

:thumbsup

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 13372626)
Listen up douchebag, I was quoting your statement just as an example, I wasn't debating your post. But based on your response, which I find highly ironic, I can assume that English is your 4th language and your first three are; Ebonics, Dumbfuck, and Pig Latin (not in that particular order). Get over yourself, dumbass and if you're going to call people out for being retarded try looking at what you type first or at least have your overweight girlfriend proof read it for ya.

Thanks champ, now put your helmet back on. Don't want to fall and hurt yourself.

you were quoting my remarks and commenting on the post that i quoted regarding the fact that most restaurants have a policy of adding the gratuity to the bill automatically if the party is X people or more. ... the main point being the fact that sometimes the gratuity is automatically added.... not "8 people" or 20 or 1000 or what was a favorite food of viking explorers ... not sure why you felt that remark needed some dissection, analysis and debate.

my only guess is that you found the paragraph tough, challenging and somewhat difficult to comprehend.

my bad. its not your fault... and i shouldn't be making fun of you for trying so hard.

TripleXPrint 11-14-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13372652)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Says the guy who can't use commas or paragraphs to save his life. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I'm picturing Jim Carey sucking in a huge gulp of air and spouting out why Einhorn is a man from Ace Ventura. :1orglaugh

Forest 11-14-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13372664)
For a full service restaurant it is a bigger party, for a diner its not. I agree about tipping at starbucks but at a restaurant. Also I would throw guess most of you never worked for a tip so you wouldnt understand.

most restaurants will add tip to parties of 6 or more

at chops which is fine dining ur doing a ton of table side work

its not just a matter of bringing u your food. wine needs to be opened and poured constantly. the dover soles and beef carving are very time consuming and a pain in the ass

i always hated having to do ceasers or dover soles table side. they take forever

TripleXPrint 11-14-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372676)
you were quoting my remarks and commenting on the post that i quoted regarding the fact that most restaurants have a policy of adding the gratuity to the bill automatically if the party is X people or more. ... the main point being the fact that sometimes the gratuity is automatically added.... not "8 people" or 20 or 1000 or what was a favorite food of viking explorers ... not sure why you felt that remark needed some dissection, analysis and debate.

my only guess is that you found the paragraph tough, challenging and somewhat difficult to comprehend.

my bad. its not your fault... and i shouldn't be making fun of you for trying so hard.

Sorry, I don't speak Dumbfuck. Can you babelfish that and repost?

I'm through with you. Everytime I read one of your responses I lose a couple brain cells. Now fuck off, you're starting to bug me.

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13372652)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Says the guy who can't use commas or paragraphs to save his life. :1orglaugh

this is what we need... more communist retards playing "go fuckyourself grammar police" as if a forum for backwards assholes and societal outcasts is a gathering place for mensa members and people with doctorates in english





i thought the hall monitors eventually all grew up to security guards, obsessed with role playing games and star trek conventions.

i was wrong.

some become forum grammar police.

wow.

i'm having an off day.

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 13372698)
Sorry, I don't speak Dumbfuck. Can you babelfish that and repost?

I'm through with you. Everytime I read one of your responses I lose a couple brain cells. Now fuck off, you're starting to bug me.

i know you're furiously scribbling, crayon in mouth trying to scratch out "i know you are, but what am i" for your caregiver to type in preparation to my next reply to you anticipating name calling..

but i'm going to deprive you of the chance to use that witty and original comeback

sorry.

D 11-14-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13372438)
No, but there is one that says all parties of 8 or more will have a 20% gratuity automatically added to their bills. It's just that this idiot decided to take it off the bill, and didn't mention it to the customer, so the customer probably thought he was giving a reasonable extra tip on top of the 20%.

Good point.

tony286 11-14-2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13372690)
most restaurants will add tip to parties of 6 or more

at chops which is fine dining ur doing a ton of table side work

its not just a matter of bringing u your food. wine needs to be opened and poured constantly. the dover soles and beef carving are very time consuming and a pain in the ass

i always hated having to do ceasers or dover soles table side. they take forever

Went to mortons all the talking and presenting. I was thinking to myself on a busy night this must really suck.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-14-2007 03:25 PM

150 cheap ass tippers and 1 waiter with an attitude...

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...CowTipping.jpg

Anyone ever tip a cow?

ADG

D 11-14-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13372394)
i was at the quiznos (fast food joint) the other day and they had a tip jar.

i laughed and asked the guy why it was there.

:1orglaugh Yeah... no argument there. I always thought it was a bit much.

I guess I don't mind it so long as they don't give ya funny looks for not using it.

I imagine if I ordered something special-instructioned to death... like "a sandwich with this one one side, and that on another with this that and the other on the side, exactly 4 banana peppers, etc.," or if I opted to leave my stuff on the table for them to clean up after me, I might toss a buck in.

Forest 11-14-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13372744)
Went to mortons all the talking and presenting. I was thinking to myself on a busy night this must really suck.

not really. most fine dining places have front and back waiters bus help wine stewards ect ect. but what most dont consider is all these people take a % of the tip

so this allows for more table side service from the front waiter and keeps the service at a level one should expect from a finer dining est.

JohnnyJames 11-14-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by goldmine (Post 13372302)
bump to see my forgotten ICQ number....


summary anyone?


Summary: If you are an Atlanta waiter, hotshot lawyer Ron Weiner doesn't tip worth shit.

Real Sinatra about to be fired for calling Ron Weiner out on being a low-tipping scumbag weiner.

Unfortunate. Pseudonyms could have avoided all this trouble. Now there are a dozen threads with Weiner all over em.

Pics Traffic 11-14-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13372658)
i worked for a chef once who got so pissed off at a customer that he pulled out his nut sack and droped them right on to the clients fish

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

that guy was nuts

:upsidedow

Ive seen it all as well. I was working in fine dining Italian place and kitchen staff was far from being fine dining. Those mother fucking Mexicans would pick off the plates, drop shit on the floor and put it right back on the plate and pour some extra souse just to cover dirt. Waiters are even worst…

tony286 11-14-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13372774)
not really. most fine dining places have front and back waiters bus help wine stewards ect ect. but what most dont consider is all these people take a % of the tip

so this allows for more table side service from the front waiter and keeps the service at a level one should expect from a finer dining est.

Well at mortons we had two at the same time besides the back waiters and we were four people.I thought it seemed like alot.

BuggyG 11-14-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 13369579)
Want to have fun wth the waitress. Put about 5 or what ever depending on the place. 5$ bills on the table. and tell her thats your tip. Each time I wait or my drink goes dry a bill comes off.

ROFL!! Was think ing about that while reading this thread. Saw it on TV show.. think it was 3rd Rock from the sun. Classic. Always thouhgt about doing it

robfantasy 11-14-2007 03:54 PM

my friend who is a bartender will call you out for leaving a bad tip in front of everyone in the club and then come around the bar and throw you out.

sometimes he beats ppl up

aint that some shit

lol

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 13372671)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

man u fucking crack me up

im glad our days of pissing with eachother are long gone

:thumbsup


hehe.. its been a while now. sometimes it seems like eons ago since all this porn on this thing called "the internet" started.

those old netpond days were very comical... i miss those days a little just because of the entertainment value.

i hit you up on ICQ because you asked me to. was i in trouble? :(

frostyimpressions 11-14-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13371194)
Forcing your employees to rattle their beggars cup by paying them abysmally low wages should be a crime.

I agree completely!! Also, what a lot of people don't know, is the reason why their steak dinner costs $17 as opposed to $30 is because of the fact that the servers are being paid below minimum wage.

I stayed serving tables for 5 years because it was the only place in my area that was flexible with my school schedule and paid enough to keep a roof over my head.

NoComments 11-14-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13372911)
hehe.. its been a while now. sometimes it seems like eons ago since all this porn on this thing called "the internet" started.

those old netpond days were very comical... i miss those days a little just because of the entertainment value.

i hit you up on ICQ because you asked me to. was i in trouble? :(

ahhhh...
all familiar faces are once again in the same thread
;)

GAMEFINEST 11-14-2007 04:12 PM

this thread went downhill

shannmarie 11-14-2007 04:34 PM

I was on my way into a career in Hospitality -- even got Bachelors. The following summer, I decided to "take it easy" and just fuck around for a bit.

Totally got spoiled that summer and DECIDED I PREFERRED TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BILL.

Uhhh, and now here I am. LOL

Pleasurepays 11-14-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 13372971)
ahhhh...
all familiar faces are once again in the same thread
;)

ha.. i got busted again.

you can tell when i am busy or have a lot on my mind... i post more for sport. sometimes i enjoy coming here to insult the intelligence of those who have very little. its a lot like shooting a bullet with a bullet.


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