XMaster

101 poker addict

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papill0n

102 poker eggspurts

Snake Doctor

You say this, and then you say your line with AK is usually call, call, fold.

Sounds to me like someone is a little confused.

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RawAlex

I got egg... someone else is doing the spurt.

micker

Not to tilt you further but a gay waiter is a Q3, not a Q10. In addition, if the guy was playing tight all night up to that point he may have planned on loosing the hand to throw you off. He just lucked.

dig420

sounds to me like someone doesn't play a lot of poker if they don't know how tricky AK can be, but someone wants to pop off in this thread like they know something anyway. Any guesses who that someone might be?

Alex, calling with 99 to see the flop isn't a bad play, what I'm saying is pushing with it against a maniac isn't a mistake. It's a very reasonable play. You might get caught every now and then but overall it's a winner. It slows him down, and you're going to be the favorite most of the time.

Makaveli

I'm going to take a break from poker.. Running fucking horrible.. I think a month should do.. Tonight I go play in a $100+50 satellite, make final table down to 4 players. UTG moves allin.. He's done it 5-6 times in a row just picking up the blinds. Im in BB and it comes to me. I look down at AQ of spade. I'm not going to fold that it's now or never right, the blinds are going up every ten minutes now. So we're about even in chips, I call him. He turns over 67d. Flop comes I spike ace. He has shit. Turn 7, river 7.. I'm not kidding you. It's been a bad month poker wise. My bank roll is pretty much gone.. To make things worse porn sales are sucking balls in a big way too.

dig420

I feel your pain. In online poker, it's like someone flips a switch and all of a sudden you can't win a hand no matter what your cards are. I just don't trust it.

Snake Doctor

When I was a beginning poker player and thought I knew everything I thought AK was tricky (and assumed that it MUST be tricky for everyone else too)
Once I learned how to play it correctly in both limit and no-limit and cash game and tournament situations it has become on of my most profitable hands.

You may know more than the average casual poker player dig, but you don't know nearly as much as you think you do.

I see statements that you make and the attitude that goes along with them as signs of where you're at in your game. I say this because I've seen it dozens of times in other players on poker bbs's.

Here's some good information on that subject (although it was written about tournament players I still think it is relevant)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4242545&page=1

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Makaveli

I play live bro... I don't stick money into those sites.I play on Full tilt free rolls. That's about it.

dig420

ok expert, let's go lock up 1k on FT right now, since you're such an infallible pro. Let's see if you can take it from me.

dig420

bad runs happen live too, they're just usually not that dramatic.

Snake Doctor

Classic, absolutely classic.

When your argument can no longer stand on it's merits, challenge the opposition to a heads-up match.

Man, you've been on tilt waaaaay too long. You need a break brah.

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dig420

You talk too much. Quickest way to end it is to put money on the table. You're a better player than me right? Easy money for you. Come and get it.

Snake Doctor

I talk too much? I'm almost certain that you have as many or more posts in this thread than me.

You're also missing the point, even if we played heads up and you beat me, took every cent I had and I went into hock for more and you took that too.....it still doesn't make pushing all-in preflop with pocket nines in a cash game a good move.

I mean c'mon man, you're practically challenging me to a duel or a fist fight because you can't win the argument. You're acting like "an over-aggressive 12 year old"

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dig420

Let me modify this statement so it's extra super duper clear and then maybe you won't be so confused. I RAISE, and make it healthy, with AK. If I get reraised, like this poster did, I find it difficult to fold AK. I also find it difficult to fold it the first bet after the flop because I know damn well there's a continuation bet coming whether the reraiser hit his hand or not. If the reraiser makes another bet on the turn and I still haven't paired or hit a nut draw I have to lay it down. If he checks, he gets to call my bet or fold. AK is the only non-made hand that dictates my actions this way, and I don't enjoy it.

Do you understand now?

dig420

yes, you talk too much in a case in which you're totally wrong, and you try to make it sound like you're the all-wise, all knowing poker pro. I doubt you've played at my cash levels. Not saying you definitely haven't, but I doubt it. When I suspect someone is talking out his ass about poker, I want his chips. It's my nature.

Snake Doctor

I love how you think I'm "totally wrong"...it has never once occured to you that my argument has merit....the fact that you would push all in with 99 means that's the only right play, anyone who disagrees with you must be a total fish who gets pushed around by aggressive players.

I personally think the cash level you play at, along with your "wsop and wpt cards" are because you're a high income person with an expensive hobby, not because you're a great player.

Playing heads up would be stupid.
So we get it all in with KK vs JJ, or AA vs QQ, or AKs vs TT....and how does that prove who the better player is?
If I suck out on you and take your whole grand does that mean that I'm right and you're wrong about how to play the pocket 9's in this scenario?
If you flop top set and I flop middle set and we get it all in, does that make me a fish who doesn't know what he's talking about?

Get over yourself man. You can't counter my arguments on their merit, or by using math or logic or any type of sound game theory to prove you're right, so you have to challenge me to "step outside" to settle it.

Pffffttt....whatever dude.

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Makaveli

Man this is almost like being at the Poker table.... :P