Paysite Owners, NEW MPEG Access Denied Problem!

[Shap]

Hi Guys. Haven't posted here in a while. Hope everyone is doing well. I'm writing because I've come across something that could potentially affect many of you, especially the Paysite owners out there.

Over the past week our customer support emails for help with Mpeg Video clips have gone thru the roof. Our members were emailing us with problems we had never heard of before. Tonight I went in and downloaded the newest version of Windows Media Player (Version 9).

-I tried to play an mpeg from my members area.
-Result? Windows Media Player Reported Access Denied. I looked into that and it seems Windows Media Player is now looking for some sort of digital certificate before playing an mpeg.

-Next I tried saving the mpeg to my disk and then playing it off the hard drive.
-Result? Windows Media Player said the file was not recognized and not a valid file.

-Then I put the mpeg on a link outside the members area.
-Result? it worked fine.

So it seems that the new Windows Media Player will only play mpegs that are linked outside a secure area and won't play them without this "digital license/certificate". I tried running mpegs off Scoreland, Milf Hunter, Bangbus. Same result.

Have any of you heard of this? Is there a way around it? And if not this seems like a major problem for a number of paysites. I'm thinking the only option is recoding all the video clips to another format. Not exactly a cost/time effective option. Any feedback at all would be appreciated. Thanks :-)))

Shap

[mrthumbs]

Hmmm.. if that's true (and i mean: MS's new policy instead of a bug) that's means shit hitting the fan..

[gecko]

just tell them you use another player

[MiLo]

I´ve heard the most weird shit going on with the new
Media Player 9... i don´t even dare to update.

And about using "another player" maybe someone can point
out a good MPEG player.. a couple of years ago there was
MPEGView that worked like wonders... maybe is still around?

[TheFLY]

SHAP IS IN DA HOUSE -- RESPECT YOUR ELDERS...

WORD

[Shap]

Hi Gecko. I'm not quite sure the solution is that simple. First off a large number of users use the force fed Microsoft Software. Also, I tried the new version of divx, that also is no longer playing Mpegs without a "Digital License".

Shap

[playa]

was up shap,, long time no speak,

i agree this is a serious issue,
it must be a bug cuz i can't see why M$
would not allow MPEG videos,,

seems more of a step backwards

[Shap]

Oh Shit. Milo and The Fly! Whassup Guys?

Shap

[TheFLY]

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[TheFLY]

shaP

SIMPLETON
HAS
A
PENIS
SOMEHOW
HE
ASKED
PETE
SOMETHING
HAS
ABOUT
PROXMIITY
SUBTLY.
HAS
ALBERT
PROXMATED
SHELBY'S
HORSEPOWER
AGAIN?
PROBABLY.

shap shap shap

THE NEWS IS I'M A HEAD OF MY TIME
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WORD

[TDF]

Originally posted by TheFLY
shaP

SIMPLETON
HAS
A
PENIS
SOMEHOW
HE
ASKED
PETE
SOMETHING
HAS
ABOUT
PROXMIITY
SUBTLY.
HAS
ALBERT
PROXMATED
SHELBY'S
HORSEPOWER
AGAIN?
PROBABLY.

shap shap shap

THE NEWS IS I'M A HEAD OF MY TIME
TIMES TIME TIMES TIME TIMES TIME

WORD

the more u post the more the right side of my brain works

[Shap]

Fly You're Crazy!

Whassup Playa! I agree with you. However I don't think it is a bug. If I'm not mistaken an Mp3 is an Mpeg right? If so then it makes perfect sense. Microsoft and these other companies may be trying to help control the mp3 file swapping and as a result they have just hit us webmasters right in da nuts.

Shap

[TheFLY]

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[TDF]

yes its definitely a fuckup on microsofts part. Videos either dont play or they say that it needs a password and the sites password doesnt work

[TheFLY]

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ok

the end.

[The real Dirty D]

Yo Yo Yo Whatz up shap everyone else was doing it...
I hope thats not the case... A Mp3 is an Mpeg... So they may very well be fucking kicking us in da nutz... We need to get to the bottom of this

[drunkdollars]

I just checked my members section its all WMV and everything it working fine with media player 9.
Very weird I am guessing it is just a bug.

But were you guys testing movies that were embedded?

[TheFLY]

mpeg IS mpeg

FUCK vidX OR MALCOM x
FUCK THOSE MICROSOFT EXTENSIONS
FUCK ADOBE ACROBAT
i"m not downloading that realplayer crap
SUCK ON MY GAT
ACK

FUCK MAN PURE MPEG IS THE SHIT WHAT IS MICROSLOFT
SHLOFF
SOFT
SLOFF
mICRO$OFT

THIS IS MY LAST POST

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[The real Dirty D]

LOL that was funny

[Shap]

Hi DrunkDollars. Our Wmv videos work fine. The mpegs don't. I'm going to talk with the guy that encoded them for us tomorrow. I'm guess the only solution right now is to get members to download Windows Media Player 7.1

Shap

[TheFLY]

Originally posted by shap
Hi DrunkDollars. Our Wmv videos work fine. The mpegs don't. I'm going to talk with the guy that encoded them for us tomorrow. I'm guess the only solution right now is to get members to download Windows Media Player 7.1

gfy............

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA????????????

PLEASE RESPOND

[drunkdollars]

Shap..
Can you tell the location that the file is looking to get the license from?

[Shap]

Drunkdollars, not that I know of.

[drunkdollars]

I just checked the mpg plug in we have and it is working fine for me.

[MikeEP]

Originally posted by shap
Hi DrunkDollars. Our Wmv videos work fine. The mpegs don't. I'm going to talk with the guy that encoded them for us tomorrow. I'm guess the only solution right now is to get members to download Windows Media Player 7.1

Shap

I'm wondering if someone has already install windows mediaplay 9, that going back to 7.1, and having it work, would be that simple.

I'm assuming that 9.0 installs some new codecs, certificates, or something, that aren't erased when someone reinstalls 7.1 over it. If you try install over 9.0 with 7.1 and it works fine, let us know.

[Shap]

MikeEp. You are correct. Returning to Windows Media 7.1 is not as easy as I thought it would be. I'll keep you posted. I may have to call it a night and start fresh in the Morning.

Shap

[drunkdollars]

Shap if you want
mail me a pw and your url.
I would like to see if I could help
[email protected]

[MikeEP]

Originally posted by shap
MikeEp. You are correct. Returning to Windows Media 7.1 is not as easy as I thought it would be. I'll keep you posted. I may have to call it a night and start fresh in the Morning.

Shap

Did you already try it and it didn't work?

Maybe some "windows gurus" out there can post on how to fully drop 9.0 from the comp to allow a fresh and clean install of 7.1.
Maybe it's just as simple as deleting certain files/certificates that 9.0 installs...hmmm, wish i knew...

Good post Shap, I hope you keep us updated and report your findings.

[boneprone]

Bout time shap came around posting here some more!
I hope this becomes a regualr thing!

As for Windows Media 9 that isnt good to hear, casue you know its the default palyer out there now.

I hope this is a bug they fix. WMP 9 is in beta still right? Which means they probably are unaware of this bug?

[The Machine]

it's still a beta so this should be fixed once M$ hears about it.

still, MS sucks.

[eRock]

Isn't WMP 9 still in it's beta version tho? If enough people bitch about it I'm sure it'll be fixed. Prob'ly a bug like most are saying.

[TheFLY]

Originally posted by boneprone
Bout time shap came around posting here some more!
I hope this becomes a regualr thing!

As for Windows Media 9 that isnt good to hear, casue you know its the default palyer out there now.

I hope this is a bug they fix. WMP 9 is in beta still right? Which means they probably are unaware of this bug?

IF WE WERE STILL USING DOS THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE

[drunkdollars]

Yes its in beta but it might not be a bug it might be something to do with the encoding of the mpegs the first step I think is to see where it is trying to grant the licence from.
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[The Machine]

Originally posted by drunkdollars
Yes its in beta but it might not be a bug it might be something to do with the encoding of the mpegs the first step I think is to see where it is trying to grant the licence from.
I

that's what i'm thinking - how does MP 9 know this is a member area - this seems to be an encoding problem more than anything else.

[drunkdollars]

It is all part of the new microsoft digital licencing.
I am just curious if the default license for an older encoded mpeg to play in media 9 checks on a MS server.

This would suck.

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

I had posted earlier on this topic ... but I will repeat it here ...

THE ONLY WAY TO COMPLETELY GET RID OF MEDIAPLAYER 9, IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE TO THE DAY BEFORE (OR ANY TIME BEFORE YOU INSTALLED WMP9) ... And that is right from Microshit

I am totally PISSED RIGHT THE FUKK OFF with Microshit over this one, to the point I just might buy a fukkin MAC !!!

I have made so many changes to my machine since installing WMP9 that a system restore is not a viable option ... but I now having processes shut down at a rate of at least 1 every hour ever since installing it ... so it might be an option REAL SOON ...I am starting to back every thing up !!!

WTG Microshit !!!
This fukking MediaPlayer makes Windows ME seem AWESOME !!!

Microsoft thinks they have us by the short and curlies ... I think it is time the American buying public shows them elsewise !!!

[The Machine]

anyway, don't worry about this guys. i'll post a solution tomorrow.

[TheFLY]

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
I had posted earlier on this topic ... but I will repeat it here ...

THE ONLY WAY TO COMPLETELY GET RID OF MEDIAPLAYER 9, IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE TO THE DAY BEFORE (OR ANY TIME BEFORE YOU INSTALLED WMP9) ... And that is right from Microshit

I am totally PISSED RIGHT THE FUKK OFF with Microshit aver this one, to the point I just might buy a fukkin MAC !!!

I have made so many changes to my machine since installing WMP9 that a system restore is not a viable option ... but I now having processes shut down at a rate of at least 1 every hour ever since installing it ... so it might be an option REAL SOON ...I am starting to back every thing up !!!

WTG Microshit !!! this fukking MediaPlayer makes Windows ME seem AWESOME !!!

Microsoft thinks they have us by the short and curlies ... I think it is time the American buying public shows them elsewise !!!

MAN I FEEL YUR PAIN MAN THEY THINK THEY HAVE US BY THE SHORT AND CURLIES BUT NIO WAY THIS IS AMERICA FUCK BULL GATES THAT LITTLE PIG-=SQUEAK

FUCKING DORK ON HIS TRAMPOLINE
DOES HE THINK HE IS WILLY WONKA?

FUCK THAT I'JM NOT DROWING IN HIS CHOCOLATE SHIT
DAMN BILL GATES
FUCK HIS FUCKING MPEG TRICKS
DIV X CRAP

DAMN

OK THIS IS MY LAST POST


DUDE BUY A FUCKING Mac
-- NO HELL nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

GO BACK TO DOS MAN
LET THEM FEEL YOUR PAIN

DOS 3.1 FUCK DAT SHIT
GO BACK TO DOS 2.0 BEFORE BILL GATES GOD INVOLVED
FUCK HIM

OK THIS IS MY LAST POST

[Voodoo]

DivX Player
WinAmp
RealOne

If you are going to use a player, I'd choose one of those, they are not in order of any preference.

[Morgan]

check here for shit:
http://communities.microsoft.com/New...dowsmedia.beta

[Pornwolf]

I went through this with M$ last week. Hungry is right, you have to restore your computer or just format C like I did to return to the way it was. Microsoft is hard lining the file traders. They are also making it harder to get the DRM SDK's to add signatures to your files.

I think this might be the one thing that saves Realplayer.

[Morgan]

or here:
http://communities.microsoft.com/new...PageNu mber=1

[Mr.Fiction]

A couple of us have posted already about this fiasco with WMP9.

There appears to be big problems with password protected movies.

Check the microsoft beta newsgroup (I forget what it's called but you can find it on the Microsoft support site) and you will see that lots of people are having these problems.

This is still a beta, hopefully they will fix it.

I had to restore my machine to get rid of that piece of shit.

[TheFLY]

Originally posted by Pornwolf


I think this might be the one thing that saves Realplayer.

ok that's the funniest thing i've heard all week

[DX]

If you're installing BETA software (ESPECIALLY FROM MICROSOFT) despite all the warnings, and it ends up biting you in the ass, you shouldn't be bitching about it... you did it to yourself.

[Shap]

I must have missed the other posts regarding this. Luckily I installed the WMP9 tonight and was able to remove it with the system restore. Wasn't much of a headache since I removed it right away. However anyone who has had it installed for a while is looking at a big mess.

I'm off to bed now. I've sent out a few emails trying to find a solution to this. I'll post any info I find out in the morning

Shap

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

PETE !!!!!!!!!!

I'm beginnin to think you don't love me anymore !!!

Mike says you are looking for a roomate for Nina's ????

Answer your damn ICQ dood !!!

[AWC]

The Beta version of the Media Player does not have support for HTTP Basic
authentication. Please see this article for details:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q329149

[S.L.L.D]

Hey Shap.
Just checked our latest video galleries and they all worked fine.

Why not embed the mpgs as we are doing? That seems to override the problem.

About nastys or our other stuff, I had to do a right click 'save as target'. Straight download wouldn't work. We'll see tomorrow...

roberto/ score-cash

[Jizar II]

Microsoft needs to get their shit together, this is very bad