Revshare v.s. PPS - Niche Specific, 2 part question - [inside!] - GoFuckYourself.com

pr0 · 10-15-2007, 04:26 PM

1) Dating - PPS or Revshare
2) Adult Dating - PPS or Revshare
3) VOD Porn - PPS or Revshare
4) Webcam Girls - PPS or Revshare
5) Typical hardcore paysite - - PPS or Revshare
6) Single Girl Paysite - PPS or Revshare
7) Pharmacutecals
8) Typical porn video site (all inclusive + bonus sites)

my personal picks....lets see yours!

1) revshare
2) pps
3) revshare
4) revshare
5) pps
6) pps
7) revshare
8) pps

Secondly....do you hit the program owners up before hand & demand higher payouts & higher revshare rates right from the start? Or do you wait till you push a little traffic over there?

I personally wait till i hit 20 free joins, paid joins, doesn't matter, then i hit my rep up & demand a higher payout be set if they wish to continue receiving my traffic.

The way i see it, its now a traffic pushers paradise, with so many programs out today for each niche, no one owns the market anymore.

Whats your take on this issue? Please be sure to answer both questions!

Pornwolf · 10-15-2007, 04:29 PM

I'm right there with ya on the list.

Except VOD. I don't have much experience with that.

Also, on #8 I choose revshare.

StarkReality · 10-15-2007, 04:57 PM

1) Dating - Revshare - People with the intention to find a partner for life will spend quite a time looking around, writing, building virtual relations.

2) Adult Dating - PPS - The guys are up for a quick fuck and will switch to the next site if they aren't successful and get replies from fake promo profiles only.

3) VOD Porn - Revshare - It's built for revshare, casual porn users who don't want to go out and rent a DVD, very loyal customers.

4) Webcam Girls - Revshare - Using PPS for some sites, but revshare most of the time since I wouldn't want to miss those guys spending hundreds or even thousands a month. Whales are rare, but well make up for those only spending money once.

5) Typical hardcore paysite - Revshare and PPS - Totally depends on the sponsor and my experience with their retention. Definitely PPS if the members area sucks or rebills magically disappear to a large extend compared with other similar sites.

6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare - Solo girl site members are often loyal fans looking for some kind of virtual girlfriend, they stay for a long time. Again, if it's just content of the girl, no extras, no webcam shows, no member interaction, I use PPS.

7) Pharmacutecals - Revshare, but not promoting them much

8) Typical porn video site - Revshare - Same as for hardcore paysite

I never hit up anyone beforehand, since I'm always busy and often quite a time passes till I start sending traffic after signup...so, I'm waiting till I see good results and have a better position to ask for more

Z · 10-15-2007, 04:59 PM

1) Dating - Revshare
2) Adult Dating - PPS
3) VOD Porn - Revshare
4) Webcam Girls - Revshare
5) Typical hardcore paysite - - PPS
6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare
7) Pharmacutecals - PPS
8) Typical porn video site (all inclusive + bonus sites) - PPS
9) Escorts - Whatever LD is offering 'cause we ROCK!

I would definitely send some traffic first before asking for a higher payout, it's just tacky for somebody, even somebody as reliable as pr0 to demand something higher or a better % without even sending a join.

pr0 · 10-15-2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z

1) Dating - Revshare
2) Adult Dating - PPS
3) VOD Porn - Revshare
4) Webcam Girls - Revshare
5) Typical hardcore paysite - - PPS
6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare
7) Pharmacutecals - PPS
8) Typical porn video site (all inclusive + bonus sites) - PPS
9) Escorts - Whatever LD is offering 'cause we ROCK!

i totally forgot escorts....but i think i would go revshare, if you hook a few whales who order them weekly, or travel, i would imagine that could be some massive loot...btw my webcams.com acct, the AVERAGE user has spent over $100, on AVERAGE no shit, some are already up in the $400 area, after only 1 month

fuzebox · 10-15-2007, 05:15 PM

I haven't seen evidence of the "revshare is better" thing on pretty much every program I promote... I know there's exceptions everywhere, but for me the rule is PPS only unless the PPS amount is low or it's an exceptional site in it's niche.

For example, with cams, a lot of cam sponsors are paying $100+. For me to average that on revshare, my surfers have to AVERAGE spending of $500 each... I know there are people who will, but every time I promote revshare cam sites I end up with a whole lot of $6 signups that die out after a few days.

Paysites? I know these guys can afford to pay me the $30-40 with all the xsells, upsells and ex-member mailings... VERY FEW sponsors have made me close to $30 a sale with the rebills on trials. Hell very few manage to do that with full monthly signups. Again, exceptions apply but they are few.

VOD? I've tried a couple, I'm sorry but the 10 cent payments don't excite me and they have not added up. I'll take a VOD sponsor that pays per signup like Adult Rental any day.

I know people won't agree with me, all I have to go on is my own experiences over the last 4 years, and I stick to em.

pr0 · 10-15-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I haven't seen evidence of the "revshare is better" thing on pretty much every program I promote... I know there's exceptions everywhere, but for me the rule is PPS only unless the PPS amount is low or it's an exceptional site in it's niche.

For example, with cams, a lot of cam sponsors are paying $100+. For me to average that on revshare, my surfers have to AVERAGE spending of $500 each... I know there are people who will, but every time I promote revshare cam sites I end up with a whole lot of $6 signups that die out after a few days.

Paysites? I know these guys can afford to pay me the $30-40 with all the xsells, upsells and ex-member mailings... VERY FEW sponsors have made me close to $30 a sale with the rebills on trials. Hell very few manage to do that with full monthly signups. Again, exceptions apply but they are few.

VOD? I've tried a couple, I'm sorry but the 10 cent payments don't excite me and they have not added up. I'll take a VOD sponsor that pays per signup like Adult Rental any day.

I know people won't agree with me, all I have to go on is my own experiences over the last 4 years, and I stick to em.

great reply rob...& yup i agree VOD is a sticky situation no doubt & adult rental really does have that market cornered at the moment...well then of course you have AEBN....but i happen to love anything made/ran by platinum bucks : )

sublimed · 10-15-2007, 05:22 PM

why pps on solo girl sites? don't these buyers stay for awhile? of course only if the sponsor updates their site(s) content regularly.

fuzebox · 10-15-2007, 05:31 PM

Also I'd like to add that for me, money now is worth more than money later. A few sponsors now are starting to show their value with the rebills, but to be honest I would have preferred the $30 per sale 6 months ago than $34-38 per sale this month.

fuzebox · 10-15-2007, 09:00 PM

Bump for a good thread

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-15-2007, 09:20 PM

nice thread thanks for showing it to me rob, sucks without search

back up!

Nismo · 10-15-2007, 09:31 PM

I'll choose PPS over revshare for almost any program/site, unless the site is new, has amazing content and is an underpromote niche. The only exception to this is if the programs sites convert very well and im getting 70%.

DEA - banned for life · 10-15-2007, 09:38 PM

lol why would you start the same thread i started 1 hour before you did?...coincidence i guess

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/776745-revshare-vs-payperjoin.html

...wierd

dynastoned · 10-16-2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality

1) Dating - Revshare - People with the intention to find a partner for life will spend quite a time looking around, writing, building virtual relations.

2) Adult Dating - PPS - The guys are up for a quick fuck and will switch to the next site if they aren't successful and get replies from fake promo profiles only.

3) VOD Porn - Revshare - It's built for revshare, casual porn users who don't want to go out and rent a DVD, very loyal customers.

4) Webcam Girls - Revshare - Using PPS for some sites, but revshare most of the time since I wouldn't want to miss those guys spending hundreds or even thousands a month. Whales are rare, but well make up for those only spending money once.

5) Typical hardcore paysite - Revshare and PPS - Totally depends on the sponsor and my experience with their retention. Definitely PPS if the members area sucks or rebills magically disappear to a large extend compared with other similar sites.

6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare - Solo girl site members are often loyal fans looking for some kind of virtual girlfriend, they stay for a long time. Again, if it's just content of the girl, no extras, no webcam shows, no member interaction, I use PPS.

7) Pharmacutecals - Revshare, but not promoting them much

8) Typical porn video site - Revshare - Same as for hardcore paysite

Exactly what my response would have been. It's just common sense..

pr0 · 10-16-2007, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

lol why would you start the same thread i started 1 hour before you did?...coincidence i guess
...wierd

wow thats crazy man....i guess i woke up with esp this morning

i just woke up & posted it

coincidence my thread got way more posts though?

WiredGuy · 10-16-2007, 12:23 AM

1) Dating - Revshare
2) Adult Dating - PPS
3) VOD Porn - Don't promote it
4) Webcam Girls - PPS
5) Typical hardcore paysite - PPS
6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare
7) Pharmacutecals - Don't promote it
8) Typical porn video site - PPS

WG

dynastoned · 10-16-2007, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

lol why would you start the same thread i started 1 hour before you did?...coincidence i guess

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/776745-revshare-vs-payperjoin.html

...wierd

HEY LOOK AT ME!!

abcx · 10-16-2007, 12:29 AM

PPS on ALL but a REALLY good cam site if you have targetted traffic. Id take revshare on that. I guess OVERALL though, for these companies to be in business REVSHARE has to be the way to go haha. ;)

Jago Webcams · 10-16-2007, 01:22 AM

1) revshare
2) pps
3) pps
4) revshare
5) pps
6) pps
7) revshare
8) pps

cykoe6 · 10-16-2007, 01:46 AM

Nice thread. Thanks for the great tips pr0

BV · 10-16-2007, 01:48 AM

Pro, your first question is flawed. I'll explain why:

Say you have 2 different Single Girl Sites with hot tours that convert off the hook.

Site A updates every day and the model is very interactive. This site I would go revshare.

Site B updates once a week and model is not so active and site also has upsells in the members area. This I go PPS. (or find another good revshare site to push)

As far as your second question. It would depend on what the sponsor was paying out default. Maybe he is already paying out 60 or 70%.

Would you ask for more if they were already paying out a high amount? I get the impression that no matter what they pay out you would want or at least ask for more.

So in answer to your question, I would have to see how it went and if the sales were coming in and the sponsor is paying out satisfactorily I wouldn't say a word before or after.

AmeliaG · 10-16-2007, 02:06 AM

I'm a fan of revshare for anything I push much because I don't really like to push stuff my surfers won't be that into and revshare equals more dough for something they like.

That said, send SpookyCash 20 joins and hit me up on ICQ at 337070007 for a higher payout

pr0 · 10-16-2007, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

Pro, your first question is flawed. I'll explain why:

Say you have 2 different Single Girl Sites with hot tours that convert off the hook.

Site A updates every day and the model is very interactive. This site I would go revshare.

Site B updates once a week and model is not so active and site also has upsells in the members area. This I go PPS. (or find another good revshare site to push)

As far as your second question. It would depend on what the sponsor was paying out default. Maybe he is already paying out 60 or 70%.

Would you ask for more if they were already paying out a high amount? I get the impression that no matter what they pay out you would want or at least ask for more.

So in answer to your question, I would have to see how it went and if the sales were coming in and the sponsor is paying out satisfactorily I wouldn't say a word before or after.

excellent observations....yes my post was inherently flawed (and open to situational vulnerability)

alexanderv · 10-16-2007, 06:39 AM

1) Dating - Never promoted it
2) Adult Dating - PPS
3) VOD Porn - PPS
4) Webcam Girls - Revshare
5) Typical hardcore paysite - -Revshare
6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare
7) Pharmacutecals - PPS
8) Typical porn video site - Revshare (in case of regular updates on the site)

fuzebox · 10-16-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcx

PPS on ALL but a REALLY good cam site if you have targetted traffic. Id take revshare on that. I guess OVERALL though, for these companies to be in business REVSHARE has to be the way to go haha. ;)

Everyone says this, but it's not necessarily the case... There are a lot of other ways to make money on that traffic. One company once told me they set their affiliate payouts at break-even just so they could profit from selling their exits to another company. By increasing the payouts as much as they could, that attracts more affiliates and makes the exit more valuable as a flat rate sale.

10-15-2007, 04:26 PM	#1
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Revshare v.s. PPS - Niche Specific, 2 part question - [inside!] 1) Dating - PPS or Revshare 2) Adult Dating - PPS or Revshare 3) VOD Porn - PPS or Revshare 4) Webcam Girls - PPS or Revshare 5) Typical hardcore paysite - - PPS or Revshare 6) Single Girl Paysite - PPS or Revshare 7) Pharmacutecals 8) Typical porn video site (all inclusive + bonus sites) my personal picks....lets see yours! 1) revshare 2) pps 3) revshare 4) revshare 5) pps 6) pps 7) revshare 8) pps Secondly....do you hit the program owners up before hand & demand higher payouts & higher revshare rates right from the start? Or do you wait till you push a little traffic over there? I personally wait till i hit 20 free joins, paid joins, doesn't matter, then i hit my rep up & demand a higher payout be set if they wish to continue receiving my traffic. The way i see it, its now a traffic pushers paradise, with so many programs out today for each niche, no one owns the market anymore. Whats your take on this issue? Please be sure to answer both questions! __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

10-15-2007, 04:29 PM	#2
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I'm right there with ya on the list. Except VOD. I don't have much experience with that. Also, on #8 I choose revshare. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-15-2007, 09:31 PM	#12
Nismo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,977	I'll choose PPS over revshare for almost any program/site, unless the site is new, has amazing content and is an underpromote niche. The only exception to this is if the programs sites convert very well and im getting 70%. __________________ i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

10-16-2007, 12:23 AM	#16
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	1) Dating - Revshare 2) Adult Dating - PPS 3) VOD Porn - Don't promote it 4) Webcam Girls - PPS 5) Typical hardcore paysite - PPS 6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare 7) Pharmacutecals - Don't promote it 8) Typical porn video site - PPS WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-16-2007, 01:22 AM	#19
Jago Webcams Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: webcams Posts: 694	1) revshare 2) pps 3) pps 4) revshare 5) pps 6) pps 7) revshare 8) pps Last edited by Jago Webcams; 10-16-2007 at 01:24 AM..

10-15-2007, 04:57 PM	#3
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	1) Dating - Revshare - People with the intention to find a partner for life will spend quite a time looking around, writing, building virtual relations. 2) Adult Dating - PPS - The guys are up for a quick fuck and will switch to the next site if they aren't successful and get replies from fake promo profiles only. 3) VOD Porn - Revshare - It's built for revshare, casual porn users who don't want to go out and rent a DVD, very loyal customers. 4) Webcam Girls - Revshare - Using PPS for some sites, but revshare most of the time since I wouldn't want to miss those guys spending hundreds or even thousands a month. Whales are rare, but well make up for those only spending money once. 5) Typical hardcore paysite - Revshare and PPS - Totally depends on the sponsor and my experience with their retention. Definitely PPS if the members area sucks or rebills magically disappear to a large extend compared with other similar sites. 6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare - Solo girl site members are often loyal fans looking for some kind of virtual girlfriend, they stay for a long time. Again, if it's just content of the girl, no extras, no webcam shows, no member interaction, I use PPS. 7) Pharmacutecals - Revshare, but not promoting them much 8) Typical porn video site - Revshare - Same as for hardcore paysite I never hit up anyone beforehand, since I'm always busy and often quite a time passes till I start sending traffic after signup...so, I'm waiting till I see good results and have a better position to ask for more

10-15-2007, 04:59 PM	#4
Z Vidi Vici Veni Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,308	1) Dating - Revshare 2) Adult Dating - PPS 3) VOD Porn - Revshare 4) Webcam Girls - Revshare 5) Typical hardcore paysite - - PPS 6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare 7) Pharmacutecals - PPS 8) Typical porn video site (all inclusive + bonus sites) - PPS 9) Escorts - Whatever LD is offering 'cause we ROCK! I would definitely send some traffic first before asking for a higher payout, it's just tacky for somebody, even somebody as reliable as pr0 to demand something higher or a better % without even sending a join.

10-15-2007, 05:15 PM	#6
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,132	I haven't seen evidence of the "revshare is better" thing on pretty much every program I promote... I know there's exceptions everywhere, but for me the rule is PPS only unless the PPS amount is low or it's an exceptional site in it's niche. For example, with cams, a lot of cam sponsors are paying $100+. For me to average that on revshare, my surfers have to AVERAGE spending of $500 each... I know there are people who will, but every time I promote revshare cam sites I end up with a whole lot of $6 signups that die out after a few days. Paysites? I know these guys can afford to pay me the $30-40 with all the xsells, upsells and ex-member mailings... VERY FEW sponsors have made me close to $30 a sale with the rebills on trials. Hell very few manage to do that with full monthly signups. Again, exceptions apply but they are few. VOD? I've tried a couple, I'm sorry but the 10 cent payments don't excite me and they have not added up. I'll take a VOD sponsor that pays per signup like Adult Rental any day. I know people won't agree with me, all I have to go on is my own experiences over the last 4 years, and I stick to em.

10-15-2007, 05:22 PM	#8
sublimed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 339	why pps on solo girl sites? don't these buyers stay for awhile? of course only if the sponsor updates their site(s) content regularly.

10-15-2007, 05:31 PM	#9
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,132	Also I'd like to add that for me, money now is worth more than money later. A few sponsors now are starting to show their value with the rebills, but to be honest I would have preferred the $30 per sale 6 months ago than $34-38 per sale this month.

10-15-2007, 09:00 PM	#10
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,132	Bump for a good thread

10-15-2007, 09:20 PM	#11
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	nice thread thanks for showing it to me rob, sucks without search back up!

10-15-2007, 09:38 PM	#13
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	lol why would you start the same thread i started 1 hour before you did?...coincidence i guess https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/776745-revshare-vs-payperjoin.html ...wierd

10-16-2007, 12:29 AM	#18
abcx Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 132	PPS on ALL but a REALLY good cam site if you have targetted traffic. Id take revshare on that. I guess OVERALL though, for these companies to be in business REVSHARE has to be the way to go haha. ;)

10-16-2007, 01:46 AM	#20
cykoe6 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,499	Nice thread. Thanks for the great tips pr0 __________________ бабки, шлюхи, сила

10-16-2007, 01:48 AM	#21
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Pro, your first question is flawed. I'll explain why: Say you have 2 different Single Girl Sites with hot tours that convert off the hook. Site A updates every day and the model is very interactive. This site I would go revshare. Site B updates once a week and model is not so active and site also has upsells in the members area. This I go PPS. (or find another good revshare site to push) As far as your second question. It would depend on what the sponsor was paying out default. Maybe he is already paying out 60 or 70%. Would you ask for more if they were already paying out a high amount? I get the impression that no matter what they pay out you would want or at least ask for more. So in answer to your question, I would have to see how it went and if the sales were coming in and the sponsor is paying out satisfactorily I wouldn't say a word before or after.

10-16-2007, 02:06 AM	#22
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,571	I'm a fan of revshare for anything I push much because I don't really like to push stuff my surfers won't be that into and revshare equals more dough for something they like. That said, send SpookyCash 20 joins and hit me up on ICQ at 337070007 for a higher payout __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

10-16-2007, 06:39 AM	#24
alexanderv Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 591	1) Dating - Never promoted it 2) Adult Dating - PPS 3) VOD Porn - PPS 4) Webcam Girls - Revshare 5) Typical hardcore paysite - -Revshare 6) Single Girl Paysite - Revshare 7) Pharmacutecals - PPS 8) Typical porn video site - Revshare (in case of regular updates on the site) __________________ ADULTRATED.COM, simply the best convertions around, excellent promo tools ADULTBOUNCER.COM - promote the biggest AEN on the planet!