Anyone using a collection agency? - GoFuckYourself.com

G-Rotica · 10-05-2007, 02:39 PM

I ask because I own a small collection agnecy in Iowa and was considering getting into adult, like charge backs and stuff. Do you get enough info (name, address) on chargebacks to go after the dead beats?

ro8in · 10-05-2007, 02:42 PM

loads of business coming your way

Masterchief · 10-05-2007, 02:55 PM

problem is that a lot of the chargebacks are because of stolen credit cards, so you're going to be collecting debts from people that infact do not owe anything at all.

DamageX · 10-05-2007, 03:43 PM

If the ones who owe you anything are not US-based, you can kiss it buh-bye.

mn · 10-05-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Rotica

I ask because I own a small collection agnecy in Iowa and was considering getting into adult, like charge backs and stuff. Do you get enough info (name, address) on chargebacks to go after the dead beats?

Almost impossible. But if you really want to give it a try you better work in the online gambling industry. In adult it's small amounts to collect. In online gambling it's not unusual with $5000+ chargebacks...

Good luck.

BruceM · 10-05-2007, 04:58 PM

Hi G-Rotica

We may be interested - you can send me details at bruce -AT- lecash -DOT- com

G-Rotica · 10-05-2007, 07:42 PM

Self bump.

Bruce, I'll drop you a line in the morning.

Iron Fist · 10-05-2007, 08:57 PM

Interesting

Good luck!

WiredGuy · 10-05-2007, 09:01 PM

I use them regularly, about to enter the litigation phase.
WG

amateurcanada · 10-05-2007, 09:09 PM

Good idea to try and capture those people - my efforts of collection letters, calls etc. many years ago as a test rendered 0 result.

After Shock Media · 10-05-2007, 10:35 PM

I know laws vary state by state. Though some shit could end up in a world of hurt as far as fair debt collections. You very well may find it very hard to prove it was a given person with permission or using their own card.

If a roommate used a card without permission that would be small claimes/fraud and not collections depending on the state laws.

I wish you good luck and would love to see a company crack this nut. Though I do not have a crap load of chargebacks over the years I do have a number of checks and cards that failed to rebill after usage.

minusonebit · 10-05-2007, 10:46 PM

I have used them from time to time to collect court judgments. I find most to be worthless and staffed by inept people incapable of doing so much as returning a phone call.

Its really hard to find a good collection agency. Most of them are just as much deadbeats as the people they go after. I no longer pay ANYTHING up front, including litigation costs because I have had such a poor experience in that regards. Once they get that money, they seem to get lazy and not do a whole lot of anything. I really prefer anymore to do my own collecting but I no longer have the time for it.

I have a huge stack of default judgments that need to be domesticated and pursued in that bitch of a state known as California. If you want to give them a try, hit me up and I'll see if I can find the files. Its about a hundred thousand dollars worth, not including interest. I'll go 50/50 but dont even think about asking for advance fees up front.

G-Rotica · 10-08-2007, 07:13 AM

Ok olks, sorry for the delayed response. I spent part of the weekend talking to the lawyer we use for garnishments and what not. It would seem that most of you guys are correct. This is not good business to chase. So that idea is out the window. Sorry to raise any hopes.

cess · 10-08-2007, 07:22 AM

I'd like to hear one of those conversations...

rep: Hi I'm calling about a online subscription bill john doe owes is he there?
lady: He's my husband, what does he owe?
rep: He bought a subscription to fuckmeintherear.com and there was a chargeback.
lady: Are you fucking kidding me? I'm gonna kill that motherfucker!

G-Rotica · 10-08-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cess

I'd like to hear one of those conversations...

rep: Hi I'm calling about a online subscription bill john doe owes is he there?
lady: He's my husband, what does he owe?
rep: He bought a subscription to fuckmeintherear.com and there was a chargeback.
lady: Are you fucking kidding me? I'm gonna kill that motherfucker!

I was hoping it would work like that. But (according to the slimeball) use of foul language could get me sued silly, even if it is the website name.

minusonebit · 10-08-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

I was hoping it would work like that. But (according to the slimeball) use of foul language could get me sued silly, even if it is the website name.

Yep, foul language and you cant even threaten to break their legs or kill family members anymore. Sucks, I tell ya, sucks!

cess · 10-08-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Yep, foul language and you cant even threaten to break their legs or kill family members anymore. Sucks, I tell ya, sucks!

Meh you could still name adult sites without the "foul language". Second I didn't say the bill collector would be threatening anyone...

10-05-2007, 02:39 PM	#1
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	Anyone using a collection agency? I ask because I own a small collection agnecy in Iowa and was considering getting into adult, like charge backs and stuff. Do you get enough info (name, address) on chargebacks to go after the dead beats? __________________

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Masterchief Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 530	problem is that a lot of the chargebacks are because of stolen credit cards, so you're going to be collecting debts from people that infact do not owe anything at all.

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I know laws vary state by state. Though some shit could end up in a world of hurt as far as fair debt collections. You very well may find it very hard to prove it was a given person with permission or using their own card. If a roommate used a card without permission that would be small claimes/fraud and not collections depending on the state laws. I wish you good luck and would love to see a company crack this nut. Though I do not have a crap load of chargebacks over the years I do have a number of checks and cards that failed to rebill after usage. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-05-2007, 10:46 PM	#12
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	I have used them from time to time to collect court judgments. I find most to be worthless and staffed by inept people incapable of doing so much as returning a phone call. Its really hard to find a good collection agency. Most of them are just as much deadbeats as the people they go after. I no longer pay ANYTHING up front, including litigation costs because I have had such a poor experience in that regards. Once they get that money, they seem to get lazy and not do a whole lot of anything. I really prefer anymore to do my own collecting but I no longer have the time for it. I have a huge stack of default judgments that need to be domesticated and pursued in that bitch of a state known as California. If you want to give them a try, hit me up and I'll see if I can find the files. Its about a hundred thousand dollars worth, not including interest. I'll go 50/50 but dont even think about asking for advance fees up front.

10-08-2007, 07:13 AM	#13
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	Ok olks, sorry for the delayed response. I spent part of the weekend talking to the lawyer we use for garnishments and what not. It would seem that most of you guys are correct. This is not good business to chase. So that idea is out the window. Sorry to raise any hopes. __________________

10-08-2007, 07:22 AM	#14
cess Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,921	I'd like to hear one of those conversations... rep: Hi I'm calling about a online subscription bill john doe owes is he there? lady: He's my husband, what does he owe? rep: He bought a subscription to fuckmeintherear.com and there was a chargeback. lady: Are you fucking kidding me? I'm gonna kill that motherfucker!