CCBill look in here --> - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 01:51 PM

not cool at all that you are processing for a tube site like this

http://www.redtube.com/2151

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 01:53 PM

no 2257 compliance on it - isn't that part of your check through when somebody submits a site to you?

amacontent · 09-30-2007, 03:33 PM

but they could remove 2257 after approval

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent

but they could remove 2257 after approval

Joe that site is filled with stolen content - they don't have any age ID documentation for anything on that site.

Zuzana Designs · 09-30-2007, 03:45 PM

WOW they have a ton of stolen shit on that site .... All sponsors should be super pissed !!!

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 03:49 PM

didn't the owner of CCBILL not long ago make a thread on here with his idea how to combat content theft? I think a nice start might include NOT PROCESSING credit cards for them

DateDoc · 09-30-2007, 03:50 PM

ImLive, AFF, Vidoesz banners and etology ads too.

HorseShit · 09-30-2007, 04:03 PM

my gf is feeding me coronas as we speak

StarkReality · 09-30-2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

didn't the owner of CCBILL not long ago make a thread on here with his idea how to combat content theft? I think a nice start might include NOT PROCESSING credit cards for them

I'm not defending these stealing tube sites, but as far as I remember, CCBill's policy is that they'll pull billing as soon as they receive multiple DMCA notices for a specific site. So, they'll react quick, but aren't proactive when it comes to copyright violations since it's very complicated to check ownership of the content and possible deals with those distributing it.

As soon as content owners act, they'll shut down billing...it's not a perfect solution, but they are far from supporting these kind of sites willingly.

Etology and AFF probably give a fuck, but I'm sure PussyCash and VideosZ will shut down their accounts as well if the content owners contact them.

BV · 09-30-2007, 04:27 PM

Wasn't there just a thread about this site a couple weeks ago?

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

Wasn't there just a thread about this site a couple weeks ago?

no clue, i never saw one but i don't read all threads.

CCBILL may not as policy make their processing clients prove copyright ownership but in this case, CCBILL is very familiar with this industry and the nature of that site should be readily apparent to anybody there.

BV · 09-30-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

no clue, i never saw one but i don't read all threads.

CCBILL may not as policy make their processing clients prove copyright ownership but in this case, CCBILL is very familiar with this industry and the nature of that site should be readily apparent to anybody there.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ccbill+redtube

There is the other thread. Not sure what was resolved out of it but the thread starter sure got reamed.

For the record, I'm against theft 100%, but I am not sure what is going on with RedTube.

Have you looked inside their members area?

I can only speculate what one would find inside after joining. My guess is it's all bought DVD content, maybe some exclusive like they say, basically another DVD content feed plugin site.

So essentially their business model is to appear and operate like any other tubesite on the outside, but also have a twist, as bait in the customers and kind of trick them into thinking if they join they will be able to DOWNLOAD the same content but higher quality and faster inside.

Sort of like a bait and switch member site using a tubsite as a tour.

Actually maybe some of the content on the outside probably is their own licensed clips mixed in with the others.

Just a guess providing that they are still operating with CCBill after all this time.

Probably not a bad idea. A fake tube site that is.

fallenmuffin · 09-30-2007, 05:59 PM

Another RedTube thread.... join the bandwagon

ProjectNaked · 09-30-2007, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

Joe that site is filled with stolen content - they don't have any age ID documentation for anything on that site.

Sadly thiefs have more protection than legitimate sites. It only takes a few weeks and a handful of $$ to build a site full of stolen content and begin selling - where as the rest of us legitimate owners are climbing uphill all the way and watching some scumbag make dollars off of our hard work

jscott · 09-30-2007, 06:07 PM

Bump for Mutt, and for protecting peoples content from theives

12clicks · 09-30-2007, 06:14 PM

mutt, is it your content? if not, you're out of the loop and have no business calling anyonw out about it.
Especially on the weekend.
as a clue, normal business hours do not include weekends.

Beaver Bob · 09-30-2007, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

mutt, is it your content? if not, you're out of the loop and have no business calling anyonw out about it.
Especially on the weekend.
as a clue, normal business hours do not include weekends.

CCBill client support is available 24/7 (excellent customer support everytime btw), so their business hours are on the weekend.

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 06:19 PM

CCBILL has members area access to the site, I don't. I highly doubt what's in there is licensed DVD content but since I haven't been inside I don't know. CCBILL knows the industry, not hard to take a look inside and see if there are Bangbros, NastyDollars and other well known programs' movies in there. Even if that is the case they are using stolen content on the free side to draw people in. It's wrong.

Mutt · 09-30-2007, 06:24 PM

Calling them out? I'm alerting them to one of their clients who is possibly stealing content from their other clients who do 1000 times the amount of business with CCBILL.

12clicks · 09-30-2007, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver Bob

CCBill client support is available 24/7 (excellent customer support everytime btw), so their business hours are on the weekend.

and their client support doesn't read chat boards.
I'm sure you have a point somewhere.................

xxxice · 09-30-2007, 06:31 PM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/766347-cc-bill-im-calling.html

This was brought up before and all the gfy elites had no problem with it and blamed the poster. This biz is truly sick and they fact the defend sites like this to be bros is beyond disgusting. It's not really even worth posting cause they will put you in the wrong somehow ...

I don't know how anyone could look up to people like this ...

xxxice · 09-30-2007, 06:32 PM

Oh let me add did you contact ccbill etc etc? Why did you post it here etc etc? Be ready for a never ending set of replies from the bigwigs that are so cool and such asses ...

xxxice · 09-30-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/766347-cc-bill-im-calling.html

This was brought up before and all the gfy elites had no problem with it and blamed the poster. This biz is truly sick and the fact they defend sites like this to be bros is beyond disgusting. It's not really even worth posting cause they will put you in the wrong somehow ...

I don't know how anyone could look up to people like this ...

Wasn't able to fix the text in enough time anyways I'll post it again. With edits ;-)

xxxice · 09-30-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ccbill+redtube

There is the other thread. Not sure what was resolved out of it but the thread starter sure got reamed.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/766347-cc-bill-im-calling.html

gooddomains · 10-01-2007, 03:57 AM

I smell some drama coming up

chompers · 10-01-2007, 11:34 AM

any news from ccbill about this?

Shap · 10-01-2007, 04:19 PM

Seeing that my stolen content is on that site I'd love to hear what ccbill has to say about this. I'm surprised this thread is dead today.

peterk · 10-01-2007, 04:22 PM

bump for a answer

Wiredoctor · 10-01-2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Seeing that my stolen content is on that site I'd love to hear what ccbill has to say about this. I'm surprised this thread is dead today.

Bump for a ccbill reply. But really we all know the truth already....they make good money so they are not about to shut off any sites like this, its called Greed people, unfortunately you need to get used to it.

After Shock Media · 10-01-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chompers

any news from ccbill about this?

CCbill has made it clear a few times.

1. They are a large and busy company and can not check every site to make sure they have proper licensing.
2. They do a check for visa approval when they set it up, occassionally they do spot checks but they have tens of thousands of sites to go through.
3. They take quick action when they recieve a DMCA from any content copyright holder. By having them show proof or remove all content listed.
4. If they recieve multiple DMCA's showing ongoing copyright infringment they will pull billing of said site.

So if a site is legal when it goes up they can swap shit around after they get visa approval and then unfortunatly it is in others hands unless they get caught in a red light violation (i.e. random spot check)

Webmasters need to alert others when they find such stolen content. Then content copyright holders need to spend the whole 3 minutes to fill out a proper DMCA and send it to site owner, CCbill, and hosting company. End of story. (however many copyright holders are to damn lazy to do it, well ussually the mid range to small companies are).

Rochard · 10-01-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

CCbill has made it clear a few times.

1. They are a large and busy company and can not check every site to make sure they have proper licensing.
2. They do a check for visa approval when they set it up, occassionally they do spot checks but they have tens of thousands of sites to go through.
3. They take quick action when they recieve a DMCA from any content copyright holder. By having them show proof or remove all content listed.
4. If they recieve multiple DMCA's showing ongoing copyright infringment they will pull billing of said site.

So if a site is legal when it goes up they can swap shit around after they get visa approval and then unfortunatly it is in others hands unless they get caught in a red light violation (i.e. random spot check)

Webmasters need to alert others when they find such stolen content. Then content copyright holders need to spend the whole 3 minutes to fill out a proper DMCA and send it to site owner, CCbill, and hosting company. End of story. (however many copyright holders are to damn lazy to do it, well ussually the mid range to small companies are).

I agree. CCBill is a respectable company but they are very large. And in simple terms, they aren't always sure who's content belongs to whom. And it's not like it's difficult to change something or add something once it's been approved by CCBill.

webmasterchecks · 10-01-2007, 05:13 PM

this was a good post

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM

Let me see if I can clearly explain why a company like CCBill cannot act until they are notified.

The DMCA provides service providers a safe harbor from liability IF they act expeditiously when notified of infringement (A DMCA letter).

Failure to act when properly notifed exposes a company like CCBill to the same liability as the direct infringer.

Now, here is the problem:

CCBill processes for tens of thousands of sites, some of which I am certain deal in stolen content.

If CCBill were to cease processing on sites that they THINK, or BELIEVE are dealing in stolen content WITHOUT being notified by the rights holder, they would then assume the liability for ALL sites that they process for.

So in otherwords, site A, B, and C are all dealing in stolen content. CCBill, acting on a hunch, or a belief, cancels processing for sites A and B (without ever receiving a DMCA notice from the rights holder of the content).

They miss site C, also dealing in stolen content, and continue processing.

They have now assumed the liability for the infringing activity of site C.

The argument would be made, hey..you nixed A and B, but you continued to process for C. You believed that A and B were dealing in stolen content, well you should have believed site C was also.

Pay up.

That is why the DMCA notice was provided for in the DMCA. That is why companies like CCBill, eBay, etc CANNOT act in advance without proper notification, but MUST and do act upon proper notification.

It is all about liability.

Hope that clears things up.

pr0 · 10-01-2007, 05:26 PM

Aussie Rebel · 10-01-2007, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

not cool at all that you are processing for a tube site like this

http://www.redtube.com/2151

You think thats not cool? how bout this? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=773422

Validus · 10-01-2007, 05:31 PM

CCBill are good bench, just send their support an email and I am sure they will take care of it.

Nubiles · 10-01-2007, 06:03 PM

I did notice that ccbill dropped skinvideo, I think ccbill is doing right thing. It can just take some time to get it done.

Mutt · 10-01-2007, 06:11 PM

sorry Jeff that doesn't wash - unbeknownst to me there was a previous thread here on GFY about this site and CCBILL was aware of it. I joined the site last night and here is some of what I found in it. CCBILL knows most of these sites very well, they process for most if not all of them and these girls are eminently famous in our industry - Raven Riley, Alison Angel, Kate from KatesPlayground, Melissa Midwest, NextDoorNikki, Dream/TeenKelly etc - it should not take a DMCA for them to know what is going on with this site - all it would have taken is for them to hit up Chris from FTV, Melissa, Spunky and ask 'We noticed your content in this site, we thought you should know as our valued clients -let us know if this site has been given permission to use the content, if not, send us a DMCA and we'll pull their processing, thanks'.

Shap · 10-01-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

sorry Jeff that doesn't wash - unbeknownst to me there was a previous thread here on GFY about this site and CCBILL was aware of it. I joined the site last night and here is some of what I found in it. CCBILL knows most of these sites very well, they process for most if not all of them and these girls are eminently famous in our industry - Raven Riley, Alison Angel, Kate from KatesPlayground, Melissa Midwest, NextDoorNikki, Dream/TeenKelly etc - it should not take a DMCA for them to know what is going on with this site - all it would have taken is for them to hit up Chris from FTV, Melissa, Spunky and ask 'We noticed your content in this site, we thought you should know as our valued clients -let us know if this site has been given permission to use the content, if not, send us a DMCA and we'll pull their processing, thanks'.

Interesting nobody from ccbill has even dared to post on this thread. It's been up for a few days. They no doubt have seen it.

I'm getting the feeling that Stealing content is ok. You'll not only get away with it but you can charge and get paid for it as well.

basschick · 10-01-2007, 06:24 PM

ccbill can't shut down a site just because a bunch of webmasters who don't own the content says it's stolen. that would leave a lot of leeway for webmasters to fuck with each other.

considering that gfy isn't on hahahahahahahahahahahaha, perhaps contacting the content owners would be the smartest thing to do. there are sites out there with videos with watermarks from other sites that have them legitimately, so ccbill needs to hear from the owners of the stolen content.

cess · 10-01-2007, 06:58 PM

There's beast**** on this site too, just search for cat and you'll see it. I can't believe ccbill has anything to do with this site.

V_RocKs · 10-01-2007, 10:28 PM

Do they have any Juicy?

V_RocKs · 10-01-2007, 10:30 PM

Do they have any Juicy?

jaYMan · 10-02-2007, 10:37 AM

neat.

=/

Shap · 10-02-2007, 02:25 PM

BiggleJones · 10-02-2007, 05:12 PM

No response yet? Thats weak.

corvette · 10-02-2007, 05:16 PM

with all due respect, i think this post i had made in the previous thread would apply here, as you are referring to the same website

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

Ripshit, I assure you that we take the issue with clients using unlicensed content very seriously. You will not find any clients that are still processing with us that we have received multiple dmca notices on. In many cases, it is difficult to tell what sites have unlicensed content, and we are not in a position to shut the billing mechanism down of one of our clients if we ?suspect? that they are using unlicensed content.

In any case, I understand this is hot topic and rightfully so. If/when we receive dmca notices that indicate one of our clients is using content they do not have a right to use, that client will not be processing with us any longer. Now I understand that the immediate response to my post by some will be ?well, you guys should just know when a site is using other peoples content and not accept it.? but the reality is that the staff in CCBill policy review do not have a way of knowing for certain whether a site is using content that they are not allowed to use and by law we have to abide by the DMCA

It is very simple process to send us DMCA notices, you don?t need an attorney and it only takes a few moments (see below) and if/when contacted, we will hold your hand through this very quick process. ([email protected], icq 45471840).

If your content is on somebody elses site without your permission, we want to know about it as much as you do

As an ISP, CCBill follows the procedures prescribed by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) for notification, takedown, and counter-notification. If you believe that a CCBill client has something on a website that constitutes infringement of your copyrights, or if any of your other intellectual property rights have been violated, please provide the following information to CCBill's Registered DMCA Agent:
1. Your electronic or physical signature.
2. A description of the copyrighted work and where the original work is located.
3. A description of where the infringement is located.
4. Your address, telephone number, and email address.
5. A statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the use of the work is not authorized by the copyright owner, agent, or the law.
6. A statement by you, that under penalty of perjury, that the above information is accurate and that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on the owner's behalf.
Please send all legal notices to:
http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/htm...copyright.html

Shap · 10-03-2007, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

with all due respect, i think this post i had made in the previous thread would apply here, as you are referring to the same website

I emailed you and I'm waiting for a reply

corvette · 10-03-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I emailed you and I'm waiting for a reply

you have mail

Mutt · 10-04-2007, 02:46 PM

here's the good news - RedTube no longer processed by CCBILL

good job CCBILL

cess · 10-05-2007, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

here's the good news - RedTube no longer processed by CCBILL

good job CCBILL

Looks like they are hosted with http://www.hahahahahaha.com which is a US based host unless I'm mistaken.

It's against hahahahahaha.com's TOS to have beast porn on your site...

Weird I can't type in their host name, anyway just look up their domain here and you can see it. http://www.whois.sc/

09-30-2007, 01:51 PM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	CCBill look in here --> not cool at all that you are processing for a tube site like this http://www.redtube.com/2151 __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-30-2007, 01:53 PM	#2
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	no 2257 compliance on it - isn't that part of your check through when somebody submits a site to you? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-30-2007, 03:33 PM	#3
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,877	but they could remove 2257 after approval __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

09-30-2007, 03:45 PM	#5
Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,851	WOW they have a ton of stolen shit on that site .... All sponsors should be super pissed !!! __________________ Website Design - Consulting - Development sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work

09-30-2007, 03:49 PM	#6
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	didn't the owner of CCBILL not long ago make a thread on here with his idea how to combat content theft? I think a nice start might include NOT PROCESSING credit cards for them __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-30-2007, 03:50 PM	#7
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	ImLive, AFF, Vidoesz banners and etology ads too. __________________

09-30-2007, 04:03 PM	#8
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	my gf is feeding me coronas as we speak

09-30-2007, 04:27 PM	#10
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Wasn't there just a thread about this site a couple weeks ago?

09-30-2007, 05:59 PM	#13
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Another RedTube thread.... join the bandwagon

09-30-2007, 06:07 PM	#15
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Bump for Mutt, and for protecting peoples content from theives

09-30-2007, 06:14 PM	#16
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	mutt, is it your content? if not, you're out of the loop and have no business calling anyonw out about it. Especially on the weekend. as a clue, normal business hours do not include weekends. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

09-30-2007, 06:19 PM	#18
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	CCBILL has members area access to the site, I don't. I highly doubt what's in there is licensed DVD content but since I haven't been inside I don't know. CCBILL knows the industry, not hard to take a look inside and see if there are Bangbros, NastyDollars and other well known programs' movies in there. Even if that is the case they are using stolen content on the free side to draw people in. It's wrong. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-30-2007, 06:24 PM	#19
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Calling them out? I'm alerting them to one of their clients who is possibly stealing content from their other clients who do 1000 times the amount of business with CCBILL. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-30-2007, 06:31 PM	#21
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/766347-cc-bill-im-calling.html This was brought up before and all the gfy elites had no problem with it and blamed the poster. This biz is truly sick and they fact the defend sites like this to be bros is beyond disgusting. It's not really even worth posting cause they will put you in the wrong somehow ... I don't know how anyone could look up to people like this ... Last edited by xxxice; 09-30-2007 at 06:33 PM..

09-30-2007, 06:32 PM	#22
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Oh let me add did you contact ccbill etc etc? Why did you post it here etc etc? Be ready for a never ending set of replies from the bigwigs that are so cool and such asses ...

10-01-2007, 03:57 AM	#25
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	I smell some drama coming up

10-01-2007, 11:34 AM	#26
chompers Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 189	any news from ccbill about this?

10-01-2007, 04:19 PM	#27
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Seeing that my stolen content is on that site I'd love to hear what ccbill has to say about this. I'm surprised this thread is dead today.

10-01-2007, 04:22 PM	#28
peterk Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,529	bump for a answer __________________ Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

10-01-2007, 05:26 PM	#33
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	__________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

10-01-2007, 05:31 PM	#35
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	CCBill are good bench, just send their support an email and I am sure they will take care of it.

10-01-2007, 06:03 PM	#36
Nubiles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,496	I did notice that ccbill dropped skinvideo, I think ccbill is doing right thing. It can just take some time to get it done. __________________ NUBILES.NET : Hosted galleries with thumbs and descriptions \| nn galleries \| Hosted free sites \| 3 new girls shot each week \| Icq 143674274

10-01-2007, 06:11 PM	#37
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	sorry Jeff that doesn't wash - unbeknownst to me there was a previous thread here on GFY about this site and CCBILL was aware of it. I joined the site last night and here is some of what I found in it. CCBILL knows most of these sites very well, they process for most if not all of them and these girls are eminently famous in our industry - Raven Riley, Alison Angel, Kate from KatesPlayground, Melissa Midwest, NextDoorNikki, Dream/TeenKelly etc - it should not take a DMCA for them to know what is going on with this site - all it would have taken is for them to hit up Chris from FTV, Melissa, Spunky and ask 'We noticed your content in this site, we thought you should know as our valued clients -let us know if this site has been given permission to use the content, if not, send us a DMCA and we'll pull their processing, thanks'. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

10-01-2007, 06:24 PM	#39
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	ccbill can't shut down a site just because a bunch of webmasters who don't own the content says it's stolen. that would leave a lot of leeway for webmasters to fuck with each other. considering that gfy isn't on hahahahahahahahahahahaha, perhaps contacting the content owners would be the smartest thing to do. there are sites out there with videos with watermarks from other sites that have them legitimately, so ccbill needs to hear from the owners of the stolen content. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

10-01-2007, 06:58 PM	#40
cess Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,921	There's beast**** on this site too, just search for cat and you'll see it. I can't believe ccbill has anything to do with this site.

10-01-2007, 10:28 PM	#41
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Do they have any Juicy?

10-01-2007, 10:30 PM	#42
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Do they have any Juicy?

10-02-2007, 10:37 AM	#43
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	neat. =/ __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

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10-04-2007, 02:46 PM	#49
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	here's the good news - RedTube no longer processed by CCBILL good job CCBILL __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!