ATK cash shaves plain and simple ... heres proof - GoFuckYourself.com

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:27 PM

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../01/?id=102886

click my new ccbill link .. then click join and select join by credit card

when you get the ccbill credit card info screen hot the back key like a surfer trying to make sure he wants to join the site

now what do you get??

you get this shit

http://atkingdom.review-network.com/...rough%20CCBill

:

good thing I check everything out before I send anything

Makingcoin · 10-01-2007, 09:29 PM

That's a traffic leak not shaving.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:30 PM

i run a network of computers and its funny because the system I signed up on will take me back to the previous page like it should but whn I log into another computer and click the same links i get the razor lol

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

That's a traffic leak not shaving.

thats not just a traffic leak.....

thats not on an exit thats on an incomplete signup

100% intentional

for me a complete and utte setup like this is nothing short of shaving

spacedog · 10-01-2007, 09:32 PM

input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='1608530

clicked your link, went straight to join, clicked credit card, got sent to another page, clicked button & view source..

Fuckers

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:36 PM

hahahahah it ust all got fixed now

lLMAO

goes back to the page it should now

wow man I tell ya

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:38 PM

ok its back again

WTF

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='1608530

clicked your link, went straight to join, clicked credit card, got sent to another page, clicked button & view source..

Fuckers

yeah that id ending in 530 is mine

what im pissed about is that once a customer finaly gets to see how much the site cost ... ( 30.00 permonth )

if they do not signup right at that very moment you lose the sale

a lot of people will hit the backspace key just to make sure its worth 30 bucks per month

but when they hit the back button they get a review page that you dont get credit for and it looks like the script does this to every fourth click or so

Quickdraw · 10-01-2007, 09:45 PM

Do they pay affiliates for the sales through 2000charge?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Do they pay affiliates for the sales through 2000charge?

2000charge?? where do you see that at??

spacedog · 10-01-2007, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

yeah that id ending in 530 is mine

what im pissed about is that once a customer finaly gets to see how much the site cost ... ( 30.00 permonth )

if they do not signup right at that very moment you lose the sale

a lot of people will hit the backspace key just to make sure its worth 30 bucks per month

but when they hit the back button they get a review page that you dont get credit for and it looks like the script does this to every fourth click or so

My bad.. I saw id=102886 in your link above, so thought that was your id.. ok.. got ya now..

Still fucked up about stealing the back clicks though..

Makingcoin · 10-01-2007, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

yeah that id ending in 530 is mine

if they do not signup right at that very moment you lose the sale

If they come back and join later how are you using the sale? I am sure the surfer is cookied with your ref id.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

If they come back and join later how are you using the sale? I am sure the surfer is cookied with your ref id.

in order to complete a sale with that surfer at that point he would need to come in thru my original traffic source that got him there

but thats unlikely seeing as how now this http://atkingdom.review-network.com/...ugh%20CC Bill

is the only window he has open

any and everything relating to the transaction and or path to conversion we were on has now been discarded and the surfer is given the review site

where I am sure he will click the free links and pic ... no credit for me

and is 2000 charge epoch? if not then I have no clue how I would get paid via the euro signup option either

I swear when my program opens you will not see any of this shit......

fuzebox · 10-01-2007, 10:07 PM

I don't get this other page... my back button goes back to the tour.

crockett · 10-01-2007, 10:13 PM

That's pretty BS right there.. They are a CCbill revshare program, there should be NO consoles at all on their tours. Affiliates should get ALL credit on sales no matter what route the surfer takes.

It's not like they are paying out $35 a sale.

pocketkangaroo · 10-01-2007, 10:14 PM

Never understood why programs do this kind of stuff. All it does is lower the conversion rates and the money affiliates make. Affiliates see that, then leave. No one who knows what they are doing would pull this crap.

In any case, I've blacklisted them.

»Rob Content« · 10-01-2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Never understood why programs do this kind of stuff. All it does is lower the conversion rates and the money affiliates make. Affiliates see that, then leave. No one who knows what they are doing would pull this crap.

In any case, I've blacklisted them.

Fully agree and blacklisted as well. Pass the word

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I don't get this other page... my back button goes back to the tour.

it does it after 4 clicks or so and it will not do it on my notebook .. only when I logon to my other machine ( remote desktop )

im sure the script or cookie knows my webmaster PC and thus dosent show me the trick

but on the other machine its a free for all

will76 · 10-01-2007, 10:19 PM

Doesn't Stuart do the programming for that site ?

Malicious Biz · 10-01-2007, 10:20 PM

That's crazy stuff yo.

Quickdraw · 10-01-2007, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

it does it after 4 clicks or so and it will not do it on my notebook .. only when I logon to my other machine ( remote desktop )

im sure the script or cookie knows my webmaster PC and thus dosent show me the trick

but on the other machine its a free for all

There is a javascript exit pop on the ccbill join page. I had to turn off the popup blocker to see it.

JD · 10-01-2007, 10:32 PM

good shit!

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

There is a javascript exit pop on the ccbill join page. I had to turn off the popup blocker to see it.

yeah I see it now

im tellin ya , since another program burned me to a crisp, I check everything

will76 · 10-01-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Doesn't Stuart do the programming for that site ?

the reason why I ask is because i remember him saying recently...

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD

Actually, today I recoded 195 old fhg's and added in the multiple tours module in the custom affiliate software I'm writing.

He seems to post here a lot. maybe he can stop in and explain whats going on.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 10:39 PM

Woot, never sent them a click, I must be getting good in my old age!

SomeCreep · 10-01-2007, 10:45 PM

It's a shame, that a site as big as ATK does not use advanced and sophisticated affiliate software like NATS.

Quickdraw · 10-01-2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver

yeah I see it now

im tellin ya , since another program burned me to a crisp, I check everything

3 of the first 5 links lead to other ccbill id's on their 'Magazine Tours'.

V_RocKs · 10-01-2007, 10:58 PM

Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.

Snake Doctor · 10-01-2007, 11:01 PM

Got Milk?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.

where did that stat come from??

I use my back key VERY OFTEN

if I were a surfer and the only way to see how much the site cost was to click thru the signup process and I did not feel ready to spend $30.00 or wanted to preview more first.... I would hit the back key

.... where in this case I would be greeted by more free pics then I could shake my dick at

KrisKross · 10-01-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.

Even if that figure was anywhere near accurate, are you OK with losing 1% of your income?

Personally, I'd rather not lose any money.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-01-2007, 11:13 PM

really if you look at it.. this is a dumb move even for ATK.... braincash owns the upsell console and ATK is just about giving them first chance at the sell ? the surfer has no clue what the site cost until the signup screen so if a surfer wanted to signup they would definitely have to click thru
now whether they think its to much or want to review the site more or anything? braincash immediately takes control of the surfer with the console

so the surfer gets upsold and ATK gets its cut and billy traffic guy gets sperm in his eye

»Rob Content« · 10-01-2007, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.

So you're cool with losing one % of your money to shady biz?

will76 · 10-01-2007, 11:23 PM

It is too late sunday night for drama. Looks like Monday morning drama to me.

crockett · 10-01-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

It is too late sunday night for drama. Looks like Monday morning drama to me.

umm today was Monday and now it's Tuesday, where u been?

will76 · 10-01-2007, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

umm today was Monday and now it's Tuesday, where u been?

im in hawaii, its still Sunday here.

no shit, its already tuesday. I need more sleep, lose track of the days.

DamageX · 10-01-2007, 11:50 PM

Oh, the irony.

Nicky · 10-02-2007, 12:01 AM

We ned someone from ATK in here

ProjectNaked · 10-02-2007, 12:37 AM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/772136-am-proposing-rule-gfy-users-ones-count-anyways-2.html

Martin3 · 10-02-2007, 12:50 AM

Don't they not allow their content on skimming sites?
I guess it's ok for them to skim the affiliate?

DamageX · 10-02-2007, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin3

Don't they not allow their content on skimming sites?
I guess it's ok for them to skim the affiliate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

Oh, the irony.

Snake Doctor · 10-02-2007, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

We ned someone from ATK in here

I doubt they'll show up. They don't seem interested in having affiliates at all.

I emailed them several months ago with a question about my link codes (I've had an account there for several years that I rarely used) and they never replied.
I guess they have enough money already, they don't need anymore.

Nicky · 10-02-2007, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I doubt they'll show up. They don't seem interested in having affiliates at all.

I emailed them several months ago with a question about my link codes (I've had an account there for several years that I rarely used) and they never replied.
I guess they have enough money already, they don't need anymore.

I have an account too that I'm sending abit of traffic to, I mean I WAS sending traffic to.

cheapgallerydesign · 10-02-2007, 05:17 AM

bumping it up

kmanrox · 10-02-2007, 05:25 AM

wouldnt the cookie already be placed so it doesnt matter if they go back and forth? just a thought

nickutis · 10-02-2007, 05:38 AM

I just got that popup after clicking back from ccbill form. I'm pulling all my links right now, my traffic is too good to waste it like that.

DamageX · 10-02-2007, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

wouldnt the cookie already be placed so it doesnt matter if they go back and forth? just a thought

It matters if you lose the sale because of sending people back and forth.

yumma · 10-02-2007, 05:49 AM

not sure they're cheaters - so big so long hard work, why risk?

Quickdraw · 10-02-2007, 06:24 AM

So, they have

1. A totally unrelated popup off the join page exit(on a tour that doesn't say the price, so surfers have to get that far to even check for the price).

2. Another processor they are not paying on?(2000charge)
3. 3 of the first 5 links on the 'Magazine tours' lead to different affiliate codes

Anything else?

GUNNER · 10-02-2007, 07:06 AM

It's an 'on-exit' console that pops from the join page. Not shaving - not even close. You don't lose credit for any sale because of it.

However, we've tried the console in this spot now for a few weeks as a test to see how it would perform and if there were any problems. While this is the first I've heard from ANY affiliates about it, if it's deemed a liability to the overall reputation of our program name it will be removed.

10-01-2007, 09:27 PM	#1
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	ATK cash shaves plain and simple ... heres proof http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../01/?id=102886 click my new ccbill link .. then click join and select join by credit card when you get the ccbill credit card info screen hot the back key like a surfer trying to make sure he wants to join the site now what do you get?? you get this shit http://atkingdom.review-network.com/...rough%20CCBill : good thing I check everything out before I send anything

10-01-2007, 09:29 PM	#2
Makingcoin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Ditch Posts: 8,919	That's a traffic leak not shaving. __________________ www.MAKINGCOIN.com icq. 166-662-831 "Start making large coin!" Daddy I Get Paid To Be A Whore - Coming Soon

10-01-2007, 10:13 PM	#15
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	That's pretty BS right there.. They are a CCbill revshare program, there should be NO consoles at all on their tours. Affiliates should get ALL credit on sales no matter what route the surfer takes. It's not like they are paying out $35 a sale. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

10-01-2007, 10:19 PM	#19
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	Doesn't Stuart do the programming for that site ? __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

10-01-2007, 10:39 PM	#25
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Woot, never sent them a click, I must be getting good in my old age! __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-01-2007, 09:30 PM	#3
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	i run a network of computers and its funny because the system I signed up on will take me back to the previous page like it should but whn I log into another computer and click the same links i get the razor lol

10-01-2007, 09:32 PM	#5
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	input type=hidden name=ccbill_referer value='1608530 clicked your link, went straight to join, clicked credit card, got sent to another page, clicked button & view source.. Fuckers

10-01-2007, 09:36 PM	#6
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	hahahahah it ust all got fixed now lLMAO goes back to the page it should now wow man I tell ya

10-01-2007, 09:38 PM	#7
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	ok its back again WTF

10-01-2007, 09:45 PM	#9
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	Do they pay affiliates for the sales through 2000charge?

10-01-2007, 10:07 PM	#14
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,165	I don't get this other page... my back button goes back to the tour.

10-01-2007, 10:14 PM	#16
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Never understood why programs do this kind of stuff. All it does is lower the conversion rates and the money affiliates make. Affiliates see that, then leave. No one who knows what they are doing would pull this crap. In any case, I've blacklisted them.

10-01-2007, 10:20 PM	#20
Malicious Biz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Put Shoe On Head Plz Posts: 4,575	That's crazy stuff yo.

10-01-2007, 10:32 PM	#22
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	good shit!

10-01-2007, 10:45 PM	#26
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	It's a shame, that a site as big as ATK does not use advanced and sophisticated affiliate software like NATS. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

10-01-2007, 10:58 PM	#28
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Yeah and 1% of surfers click the back button from the join page.

10-01-2007, 11:01 PM	#29
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Got Milk? __________________ sig too big

10-01-2007, 11:13 PM	#32
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	really if you look at it.. this is a dumb move even for ATK.... braincash owns the upsell console and ATK is just about giving them first chance at the sell ? the surfer has no clue what the site cost until the signup screen so if a surfer wanted to signup they would definitely have to click thru now whether they think its to much or want to review the site more or anything? braincash immediately takes control of the surfer with the console so the surfer gets upsold and ATK gets its cut and billy traffic guy gets sperm in his eye

10-01-2007, 11:23 PM	#34
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	It is too late sunday night for drama. Looks like Monday morning drama to me. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

10-01-2007, 11:50 PM	#37
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Oh, the irony. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

10-02-2007, 12:01 AM	#38
Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	We ned someone from ATK in here __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

10-02-2007, 12:37 AM	#39
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10-02-2007, 12:50 AM	#40
Martin3 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,529	Don't they not allow their content on skimming sites? I guess it's ok for them to skim the affiliate? __________________ 264-543-302

10-02-2007, 05:17 AM	#44
cheapgallerydesign So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 380	bumping it up

10-02-2007, 05:25 AM	#45
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	wouldnt the cookie already be placed so it doesnt matter if they go back and forth? just a thought __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

10-02-2007, 05:38 AM	#46
nickutis Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 719	I just got that popup after clicking back from ccbill form. I'm pulling all my links right now, my traffic is too good to waste it like that. Last edited by nickutis; 10-02-2007 at 05:38 AM.. Reason: typos

10-02-2007, 05:49 AM	#48
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10-02-2007, 06:24 AM	#49
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	So, they have 1. A totally unrelated popup off the join page exit(on a tour that doesn't say the price, so surfers have to get that far to even check for the price). 2. Another processor they are not paying on?(2000charge) 3. 3 of the first 5 links on the 'Magazine tours' lead to different affiliate codes Anything else?

10-02-2007, 07:06 AM	#50
GUNNER Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,102	It's an 'on-exit' console that pops from the join page. Not shaving - not even close. You don't lose credit for any sale because of it. However, we've tried the console in this spot now for a few weeks as a test to see how it would perform and if there were any problems. While this is the first I've heard from ANY affiliates about it, if it's deemed a liability to the overall reputation of our program name it will be removed. __________________ gunner @tutamail.com 25 years in the jizz biz