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Porn Farmer · 09-23-2007, 11:18 PM

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US snipers baiting Iraqis - report

From correspondents in Washington

September 24, 2007 03:20pm
Article from: Agence France-Presse

US military snipers operating in Iraq are "baiting" Iraqis by scattering items like detonation cord, plastic explosives and ammunition, and then ambushing and killing those who pick them up, The Washington Post reported today.

The newspaper said the classified program was described in investigative documents related to recently filed murder charges against three snipers accused of planting evidence on Iraqis they killed.

"Baiting is putting an object out there that we know they will use, with the intention of destroying the enemy," Captain Matthew Didier, the leader of an elite sniper scout platoon is quoted as saying in a sworn statement.

"Basically, we would put an item out there and watch it," Capt Didier said.

"If someone found the item, picked it up and attempted to leave with the item, we would engage the individual as I saw this as a sign they would use the item against US forces."

In documents obtained by The Post from family members of the accused soldiers, Capt Didier said members of the Pentagon's Asymmetric Warfare Group visited his unit in January and later passed along ammunition boxes filled with the "drop items" to be used to disrupt ... attempts at harming Coalition Forces and give us the upper hand in a fight".

Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice, said such a baiting program should be examined "quite meticulously" because it raised troubling possibilities, such as what happened when civilians picked up the items, the paper said.

"In a country that is awash in armaments and magazines and implements of war, if every time somebody picked up something that was potentially useful as a weapon, you might as well ask every Iraqi to walk around with a target on his back," Fidell is quoted in the article as saying.

Soldiers said that about a dozen platoon members were aware of the program, and that numerous others knew about the "drop items" but did not know their purpose, The Post reported.

Two soldiers, who had not been officially informed about the program, came forward with allegations of wrongdoing after they learned they were going to be punished for falling asleep on a sniper mission, the paper said.

Army officials declined to discuss the classified program, according to the report.

Truly amazing.

ne0 · 09-23-2007, 11:20 PM

this way they can kill someone...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-23-2007, 11:42 PM

Sounds like a plan.

I like it.

dav3 · 09-23-2007, 11:58 PM

You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I'm in full support of our military. They are just doing what they are ordered to do.

It's the administration which is in question here, and it makes me wonder who's side they are really on. It's not enough that our military is over there for personal agendas. But now, it seems like they are trying to either get our troops killed, or locked up.

TheJimmy · 09-24-2007, 12:06 AM

snipers should be left alone imo...that's a fucked up piece of training they have to go through and honestly we don't need to know all of the fucked up shit they get called on to do or what it does to them...

although publicly it's not always nice to hear of the shit they're asked to do...often times I think people would be happy to understand the 'whys' if they had the capacity to understand...although with the current administration I'm also highly skeptical of these 'whys'...

TheJimmy · 09-24-2007, 12:08 AM

double post...

Phil · 09-24-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

snipers should be left alone imo...that's a fucked up piece of training

Every sniper or just American???

Matt 26z · 09-24-2007, 12:17 AM

This will be the sort of thing that ends the war.

Vietnam all over again. First Americans will turn against the war (already done) and then they will turn on the troops (just starting with this and Blackwater).

JamesK2 · 09-24-2007, 12:17 AM

Don't worry man they're making Iraq a safer place. By shooting everyone that picks up ammo and guns, soon there will only be people that don't dare to touch it = safe place.

Also the democracy will work great there. As you can see it's already really starting to get peaceful in Iraq.

Matt 26z · 09-24-2007, 12:22 AM

This tactic is no doubt used to cook the books.

They put this stuff out, knowing full well that someone will pick it up and I'll guarantee you it gets marked down as an enemy death. That way it gives the impression that we are killing more bad guys.

Porn Farmer · 09-24-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

This tactic is no doubt used to cook the books.

They put this stuff out, knowing full well that someone will pick it up and I'll guarantee you it gets marked down as an enemy death. That way it gives the impression that we are killing more bad guys.

Bingo!

David - PG · 09-24-2007, 02:21 AM

And we wonder why the extremist Iraqis are able to recruit so many eager and willing "insurgents" to attack allied forces or blow themselves up next to an allied military base. The more horror stories they can serve to the Iraqi kids about the "evil" Westerners the easier they have it.

Deputy Chief Command · 09-24-2007, 02:33 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NdpPXubi38g

how about this one ? roadrage ? humvee cruising around the bagdad streets ? wtf are they doing ?

Deputy Chief Command · 09-24-2007, 02:36 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eZf-zmdrvhI

gooddomains · 09-24-2007, 03:18 AM

holy shit

09-24-2007, 06:05 AM

Would suck to be the one Iraqi who might try to pick that stuff up just so their kids don't end up playing with it.

Matt_WildCash · 09-24-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eZf-zmdrvhI

Holy shit man that video is crazy.

Love the music
"boom bitch get out the way, get out the way, get out the way" repeat...

Total disrepect for the Iraqi's on the road. But I don't know how i'd feel driving there as a soldier with bullets hitting the hummer as your driving around. Going real fast is one way of making yourself a harder to hit target and harder for others to set off roadside bombs on your ass.

OG LennyT · 09-24-2007, 07:46 AM

HEAVEN FORBID our troops use guerilla/sneak tactics against an enemy that fights in the same manner....

those blasted heathens!

WarChild · 09-24-2007, 08:16 AM

Be better if they started putting out piles of food, water and disposible diapers. Shoot them sand creatures when they go for it.

avolongold · 09-24-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by evildick

Would suck to be the one Iraqi who might try to pick that stuff up just so their kids don't end up playing with it.

imagine that

tony286 · 09-24-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dav3

You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I'm in full support of our military. They are just doing what they are ordered to do.

It's the administration which is in question here, and it makes me wonder who's side they are really on. It's not enough that our military is over there for personal agendas. But now, it seems like they are trying to either get our troops killed, or locked up.

The just following orders defense doesnt work. The problem those guys are over for such long periods of time that must really fuck with their minds after a while. We should get the fuck out of there.

ridikuloz · 09-24-2007, 01:50 PM

God bless America....

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	This will be the sort of thing that ends the war. Vietnam all over again. First Americans will turn against the war (already done) and then they will turn on the troops (just starting with this and Blackwater).

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JamesK2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,589	Don't worry man they're making Iraq a safer place. By shooting everyone that picks up ammo and guns, soon there will only be people that don't dare to touch it = safe place. Also the democracy will work great there. As you can see it's already really starting to get peaceful in Iraq. __________________

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	This tactic is no doubt used to cook the books. They put this stuff out, knowing full well that someone will pick it up and I'll guarantee you it gets marked down as an enemy death. That way it gives the impression that we are killing more bad guys.

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