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  • Porn Farmer
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    • Feb 2007
    • 928

    #1

    US snipers baiting Iraqis

    US snipers baiting Iraqis - report

    From correspondents in Washington

    September 24, 2007 03:20pm
    Article from: Agence France-Presse

    US military snipers operating in Iraq are "baiting" Iraqis by scattering items like detonation cord, plastic explosives and ammunition, and then ambushing and killing those who pick them up, The Washington Post reported today.

    The newspaper said the classified program was described in investigative documents related to recently filed murder charges against three snipers accused of planting evidence on Iraqis they killed.

    "Baiting is putting an object out there that we know they will use, with the intention of destroying the enemy," Captain Matthew Didier, the leader of an elite sniper scout platoon is quoted as saying in a sworn statement.

    "Basically, we would put an item out there and watch it," Capt Didier said.

    "If someone found the item, picked it up and attempted to leave with the item, we would engage the individual as I saw this as a sign they would use the item against US forces."

    In documents obtained by The Post from family members of the accused soldiers, Capt Didier said members of the Pentagon's Asymmetric Warfare Group visited his unit in January and later passed along ammunition boxes filled with the "drop items" to be used to disrupt ... attempts at harming Coalition Forces and give us the upper hand in a fight".

    Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice, said such a baiting program should be examined "quite meticulously" because it raised troubling possibilities, such as what happened when civilians picked up the items, the paper said.

    "In a country that is awash in armaments and magazines and implements of war, if every time somebody picked up something that was potentially useful as a weapon, you might as well ask every Iraqi to walk around with a target on his back," Fidell is quoted in the article as saying.

    Soldiers said that about a dozen platoon members were aware of the program, and that numerous others knew about the "drop items" but did not know their purpose, The Post reported.

    Two soldiers, who had not been officially informed about the program, came forward with allegations of wrongdoing after they learned they were going to be punished for falling asleep on a sniper mission, the paper said.

    Army officials declined to discuss the classified program, according to the report.
    Truly amazing.
  • ne0
    Confirmed User
    • May 2006
    • 781

    #2
    this way they can kill someone...
    hai2u

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    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
      best designer on GFY
      • Mar 2003
      • 30307

      #3
      Sounds like a plan.

      I like it.

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      • dav3
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        • May 2007
        • 7348

        #4
        You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I'm in full support of our military. They are just doing what they are ordered to do.

        It's the administration which is in question here, and it makes me wonder who's side they are really on. It's not enough that our military is over there for personal agendas. But now, it seems like they are trying to either get our troops killed, or locked up.
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        • TheJimmy
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          • Jan 2001
          • 10747

          #5
          snipers should be left alone imo...that's a fucked up piece of training they have to go through and honestly we don't need to know all of the fucked up shit they get called on to do or what it does to them...

          although publicly it's not always nice to hear of the shit they're asked to do...often times I think people would be happy to understand the 'whys' if they had the capacity to understand...although with the current administration I'm also highly skeptical of these 'whys'...
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          • TheJimmy
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            • Jan 2001
            • 10747

            #6
            double post...
            Last edited by TheJimmy; 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM.
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            • Phil
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              • Jan 2004
              • 7659

              #7
              Originally posted by TheJimmy
              snipers should be left alone imo...that's a fucked up piece of training
              Every sniper or just American???
              Ask Phil

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              • Matt 26z
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2002
                • 18481

                #8
                This will be the sort of thing that ends the war.

                Vietnam all over again. First Americans will turn against the war (already done) and then they will turn on the troops (just starting with this and Blackwater).

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                • JamesK2
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                  • Aug 2004
                  • 6589

                  #9
                  Don't worry man they're making Iraq a safer place. By shooting everyone that picks up ammo and guns, soon there will only be people that don't dare to touch it = safe place.

                  Also the democracy will work great there. As you can see it's already really starting to get peaceful in Iraq.

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                  • Matt 26z
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 18481

                    #10
                    This tactic is no doubt used to cook the books.

                    They put this stuff out, knowing full well that someone will pick it up and I'll guarantee you it gets marked down as an enemy death. That way it gives the impression that we are killing more bad guys.

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                    • Porn Farmer
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 928

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                      This tactic is no doubt used to cook the books.

                      They put this stuff out, knowing full well that someone will pick it up and I'll guarantee you it gets marked down as an enemy death. That way it gives the impression that we are killing more bad guys.
                      Bingo!

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                      • David - PG
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 767

                        #12
                        And we wonder why the extremist Iraqis are able to recruit so many eager and willing "insurgents" to attack allied forces or blow themselves up next to an allied military base. The more horror stories they can serve to the Iraqi kids about the "evil" Westerners the easier they have it.
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                        • Deputy Chief Command
                          Deputy Chief Command
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4482

                          #13
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdpPXubi38g



                          how about this one ? roadrage ? humvee cruising around the bagdad streets ? wtf are they doing ?

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                          • Deputy Chief Command
                            Deputy Chief Command
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4482

                            #14
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZf-zmdrvhI

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                            • gooddomains
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 10127

                              #15
                              holy shit

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                              • evildick

                                #16
                                Would suck to be the one Iraqi who might try to pick that stuff up just so their kids don't end up playing with it.

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                                • Matt_WildCash
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                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 1699

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command
                                  Holy shit man that video is crazy.

                                  Love the music
                                  "boom bitch get out the way, get out the way, get out the way" repeat...

                                  Total disrepect for the Iraqi's on the road. But I don't know how i'd feel driving there as a soldier with bullets hitting the hummer as your driving around. Going real fast is one way of making yourself a harder to hit target and harder for others to set off roadside bombs on your ass.

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                                  • OG LennyT
                                    Wall Street Pimp
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 14345

                                    #18
                                    HEAVEN FORBID our troops use guerilla/sneak tactics against an enemy that fights in the same manner....

                                    those blasted heathens!
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                                    • WarChild
                                      Let slip the dogs of war.
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 17263

                                      #19
                                      Be better if they started putting out piles of food, water and disposible diapers. Shoot them sand creatures when they go for it.
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                                      • avolongold
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                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 580

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by evildick
                                        Would suck to be the one Iraqi who might try to pick that stuff up just so their kids don't end up playing with it.
                                        imagine that
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                                        • tony299
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dav3
                                          You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I'm in full support of our military. They are just doing what they are ordered to do.

                                          It's the administration which is in question here, and it makes me wonder who's side they are really on. It's not enough that our military is over there for personal agendas. But now, it seems like they are trying to either get our troops killed, or locked up.
                                          The just following orders defense doesnt work. The problem those guys are over for such long periods of time that must really fuck with their minds after a while. We should get the fuck out of there.

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                                          • ridikuloz
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2005
                                            • 2080

                                            #22
                                            God bless America....
                                            Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.

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