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Old 09-15-2007, 09:48 AM   #1
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2257'ish law - tool for fighting piracy?

It seems to me, a 2257 like law that isnt too overly burdensome, could possible help out in the fight against piracy.

Something has got to give. Its looking to me, that shit is getting worse day by day now. Not year by year, or month by month anymore.

This board, unwillingly is becoming a torrent and site/dvd rip board directory in itself.

Some form of record keeping by secondary producers isnt looking like such a bad thing to me anymore. If in fact it could be enforced.

What do people think?
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:10 AM   #2
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swampthing, 2257 may become an effective tool against any "user generated content" site owned by americans or american companies, but American law doesn't really go outside the borders, so no way to enforce it.

2257 is stunningly burdensome for honest providers, and doesn't have all that much teeth to get after dishonest ones. It isn't a law intended to protect anyone, just to limit the free speech rights of those who choose to distribute porn.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:19 AM   #3
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99 percent of BT, tube and stolen content sites are all off shore in places where its hard to get them.Thats why they do it their, if they were all us based they would be gone already.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:23 AM   #4
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swampthing, 2257 may become an effective tool against any "user generated content" site owned by americans or american companies, but American law doesn't really go outside the borders, so no way to enforce it.

2257 is stunningly burdensome for honest providers, and doesn't have all that much teeth to get after dishonest ones. It isn't a law intended to protect anyone, just to limit the free speech rights of those who choose to distribute porn.
well, obviuosly if only the US adopted this, it would not be effective, and Im not talking about the law the way its written right now.

It would have to be a global effort.

The adult industry needs to form one solid entity, and join the riaa and mpa, and fight this together. Unfortunetly the government needs to get involved and put pressure on other governments to follow suit.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:24 AM   #5
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I wouldn't think 2257 would apply to websites out of the U.S.A. either...yet they all seem to have 2257 info on them. Why is that? Is there some kind of international law that I don't know about?
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:45 AM   #6
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I wouldn't think 2257 would apply to websites out of the U.S.A. either...yet they all seem to have 2257 info on them. Why is that? Is there some kind of international law that I don't know about?
because many of them are still required to, in order to use billing services and certain hosting companies.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:58 AM   #7
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That makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for my muddled mind.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:04 PM   #8
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I seriously doubt it would work. Since when has the international community ever agreed about the same things? You'd still have places where these sites could be hosted and you'd be back to square one leaving even more bureaucracy for the honest person to have to deal with.
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I seriously doubt it would work. Since when has the international community ever agreed about the same things? You'd still have places where these sites could be hosted and you'd be back to square one leaving even more bureaucracy for the honest person to have to deal with.
someone better come up with something.

If countries dont have laws to punish theft, what the fuck are they doing connected to the internet?

The responsibility needs to start falling in someones lap, whether they want it to be or not.

Registrars, hosting companies, governments themselves.

damn, what a fucking shame.
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:39 PM   #10
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It seems to me, a 2257 like law that isnt too overly burdensome, could possible help out in the fight against piracy.

Something has got to give. Its looking to me, that shit is getting worse day by day now. Not year by year, or month by month anymore.

This board, unwillingly is becoming a torrent and site/dvd rip board directory in itself.

Some form of record keeping by secondary producers isnt looking like such a bad thing to me anymore. If in fact it could be enforced.

What do people think?
Most of these places are not in US. There isn't much else to say really.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:11 AM   #11
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Governments have more important things to deal with such as, world hunger, health care systems, and war...Un fuckin real this thread is
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:24 AM   #12
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Governments have more important things to deal with such as, world hunger, health care systems, and war...Un fuckin real this thread is
The items you named above all require money. That money is earned by protecting copyright and trademarked goods produced in your country.

The failure to protect these rights costs the US billions that it desperately needs. What China is costing American music, porn, software, etc, companies is inexcusable.

Someone in government needs to really address this shit. What we have to offer in the form of international trade is being stolen not traded for.

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Old 11-29-2007, 10:40 AM   #13
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99 percent of BT, tube and stolen content sites are all off shore in places where its hard to get them.Thats why they do it their, if they were all us based they would be gone already.
That's not true and the only reason a lot of it is out there is because nobody is doing anything about it.
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