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swampthing 09-15-2007 09:48 AM

2257'ish law - tool for fighting piracy?
 
It seems to me, a 2257 like law that isnt too overly burdensome, could possible help out in the fight against piracy.

Something has got to give. Its looking to me, that shit is getting worse day by day now. Not year by year, or month by month anymore.

This board, unwillingly is becoming a torrent and site/dvd rip board directory in itself.

Some form of record keeping by secondary producers isnt looking like such a bad thing to me anymore. If in fact it could be enforced.

What do people think?

RawAlex 09-15-2007 10:10 AM

swampthing, 2257 may become an effective tool against any "user generated content" site owned by americans or american companies, but American law doesn't really go outside the borders, so no way to enforce it.

2257 is stunningly burdensome for honest providers, and doesn't have all that much teeth to get after dishonest ones. It isn't a law intended to protect anyone, just to limit the free speech rights of those who choose to distribute porn.

tony286 09-15-2007 10:19 AM

99 percent of BT, tube and stolen content sites are all off shore in places where its hard to get them.Thats why they do it their, if they were all us based they would be gone already.

swampthing 09-15-2007 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13091708)
swampthing, 2257 may become an effective tool against any "user generated content" site owned by americans or american companies, but American law doesn't really go outside the borders, so no way to enforce it.

2257 is stunningly burdensome for honest providers, and doesn't have all that much teeth to get after dishonest ones. It isn't a law intended to protect anyone, just to limit the free speech rights of those who choose to distribute porn.

well, obviuosly if only the US adopted this, it would not be effective, and Im not talking about the law the way its written right now.

It would have to be a global effort.

The adult industry needs to form one solid entity, and join the riaa and mpa, and fight this together. Unfortunetly the government needs to get involved and put pressure on other governments to follow suit.

Robbie 09-15-2007 10:24 AM

I wouldn't think 2257 would apply to websites out of the U.S.A. either...yet they all seem to have 2257 info on them. Why is that? Is there some kind of international law that I don't know about?

swampthing 09-15-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13091759)
I wouldn't think 2257 would apply to websites out of the U.S.A. either...yet they all seem to have 2257 info on them. Why is that? Is there some kind of international law that I don't know about?

because many of them are still required to, in order to use billing services and certain hosting companies.

Robbie 09-15-2007 11:58 AM

That makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for my muddled mind. :thumbsup

Lonely immortal 09-15-2007 12:04 PM

I seriously doubt it would work. Since when has the international community ever agreed about the same things? You'd still have places where these sites could be hosted and you'd be back to square one leaving even more bureaucracy for the honest person to have to deal with.

swampthing 09-15-2007 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonely immortal (Post 13092066)
I seriously doubt it would work. Since when has the international community ever agreed about the same things? You'd still have places where these sites could be hosted and you'd be back to square one leaving even more bureaucracy for the honest person to have to deal with.

someone better come up with something.

If countries dont have laws to punish theft, what the fuck are they doing connected to the internet?

The responsibility needs to start falling in someones lap, whether they want it to be or not.

Registrars, hosting companies, governments themselves.

damn, what a fucking shame.

signupdamnit 09-15-2007 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swampthing (Post 13091642)
It seems to me, a 2257 like law that isnt too overly burdensome, could possible help out in the fight against piracy.

Something has got to give. Its looking to me, that shit is getting worse day by day now. Not year by year, or month by month anymore.

This board, unwillingly is becoming a torrent and site/dvd rip board directory in itself.

Some form of record keeping by secondary producers isnt looking like such a bad thing to me anymore. If in fact it could be enforced.

What do people think?

Most of these places are not in US. There isn't much else to say really.

Hazlewood 11-29-2007 10:11 AM

Governments have more important things to deal with such as, world hunger, health care systems, and war...Un fuckin real this thread is

L-Pink 11-29-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazlewood (Post 13443397)
Governments have more important things to deal with such as, world hunger, health care systems, and war...Un fuckin real this thread is

The items you named above all require money. That money is earned by protecting copyright and trademarked goods produced in your country.

The failure to protect these rights costs the US billions that it desperately needs. What China is costing American music, porn, software, etc, companies is inexcusable.

Someone in government needs to really address this shit. What we have to offer in the form of international trade is being stolen not traded for.

.

thonglife 11-29-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13091738)
99 percent of BT, tube and stolen content sites are all off shore in places where its hard to get them.Thats why they do it their, if they were all us based they would be gone already.

That's not true and the only reason a lot of it is out there is because nobody is doing anything about it.


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