Problems with Trials!!!!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Desirae · 09-11-2002, 07:00 PM

Hi there, I just started doing a 3 day trial. Im converting crazy with it. I can see already that only around 35% turn to rebills, not as good as a monthy subscription. but the exposure to my members area is also going to be increased huge! what are the hang ups about trails? im so curious

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playa · 09-11-2002, 07:02 PM

many people will tell you that trials are not worth it,,
you might get smaller sales but its not as significant
and you'll make more in the long run,,

there is alot of seasoned surfers that will rape your site for 2.95 trial and never intending to pay anymore,,

RogerV · 09-11-2002, 07:05 PM

Desirae you are good

normally its around 35% from a trial to an active member.
and the average member normally last 2-3 months
but your site might be an exception

Desirae · 09-11-2002, 07:09 PM

my trial is 6.95. i see what your saying though. my site has always done pretty amazing so i freak everytime i change something. how long should i stick with a pricing structure before i move back? how long before you can get a really good idea?

Desirae Spencer

Desirae · 09-11-2002, 07:11 PM

thanks roger, i think your pretty swell youself =)~~~~

Desirae Spencer

pimpdog3 · 09-11-2002, 07:37 PM

I am currently retaining 36% of my trials to rebills.

I have a 3 day trial at 5.99 which used to be 3.95. I saw no difference in the signups and cancels.
I also had a 3.95 trial rebill to 19.99 then switched to the 5.99 trial to 34.99 rebill and saw no difference in retention and conversion.

bottom line:

The surfer is horny, wants to get inside and smack his thingy and 65% of the assholes cancel no matter what the price is. I bet you can have a small members area with a small selection of content vs a huge members area and expect about a 10% increase in retention. So the question is... is it worth spending tons on content to get a 10% increase in rebills or update regularly and grow as your site grows and pocket that money you saved on buying content instead of waiting months and months to get your money back(+10% rebills) on the content you purchased.

sorry if my post is scattered.. just thinking out loud.

Pornwolf · 09-11-2002, 07:42 PM

Has anyone tried the 30 minute trials yet?

Desirae · 09-11-2002, 07:44 PM

thats good to hear, maybe i will increase my monthly membership to 35.00. that would be amazing if i didnt see a drop in numbers from 24.95 to 35.00 a month.

Desirae Spencer

Desirae · 09-11-2002, 07:46 PM

i will never do a 3 minute trial myself. i believe that you need to get something out of them. plus, if you put free on there people think its a scam i feel.

Desirae Spencer

Snake Doctor · 09-11-2002, 08:29 PM

With a few exceptions, you'll almost always make more $$ with trials than without.
I push one site really hard that only converts 20% of the trials some months, but every way we've tested it, it makes more $$ with trials than without, both in the short and in the long term.

With a solo girl amateur site, I wouldn't charge too much. No more than $30 but most solo girl amateur sites stay in the $20-$25 range.
I think the main reason for this is that most of your members are also members at other sites. They very well may think you're the greatest thing since sliced bread, but you can't be on the cam 24/7, so when you're not putting on a cam show they have something else they fall back on to get their "relief".

The hangups of trials? Make sure you have a good htaccess file or a script running on the server side to prevent the "leech" programs from downloading your entire members area during the trial period.
Also, if I were you, I'd watermark EVERY SINGLE ONE of my pics and mpegs with the URL of your site.
There are going to be people who steal your content and put it on bbs boards etc, at least if you have your URL on the content you can get a few extra members out of the deal.

That's my

RogerV · 09-11-2002, 08:32 PM

I need a new password i miss watching you .
So sad
Have you thought about what we discussed the other day?

RogerV · 09-11-2002, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Has anyone tried the 30 minute trials yet?

Yes and they do well

thats why we are coming out with a 1 hour free trial program this month.

Desirea most trials do about the same number free trial or paid trial its always about 30-40% go active. so focus on just getting them in. since you have a rev share program it doesn't matter but your sales will go up and the volume will. with trials.

Like pimpdog said they just want to spank it real quik and hope they forget to cancel. you might do a little better since you have a 1 on 1 contact with your members. don't get lazy and stay on chat and the cam

Shady · 09-11-2002, 09:49 PM

35% turn over from trial to monthly is good! its above industry average which is somewhere from 20-30 %

09-11-2002, 07:00 PM	#1
Desirae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 297	Problems with Trials!!!!!! Hi there, I just started doing a 3 day trial. Im converting crazy with it. I can see already that only around 35% turn to rebills, not as good as a monthy subscription. but the exposure to my members area is also going to be increased huge! what are the hang ups about trails? im so curious Desirae Spencer <img src="http://www.naughtyathome.com/banners/blowjob100x150.jpg" border="0" > __________________ www.naughty4cash.com-Affiliate program for Desirae Spencer's Official Website: http://www.naughtyathome.com

09-11-2002, 07:09 PM	#4
Desirae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 297	my trial is 6.95. i see what your saying though. my site has always done pretty amazing so i freak everytime i change something. how long should i stick with a pricing structure before i move back? how long before you can get a really good idea? Desirae Spencer __________________ www.naughty4cash.com-Affiliate program for Desirae Spencer's Official Website: http://www.naughtyathome.com

09-11-2002, 07:11 PM	#5
Desirae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 297	thanks roger, i think your pretty swell youself =)~~~~ Desirae Spencer __________________ www.naughty4cash.com-Affiliate program for Desirae Spencer's Official Website: http://www.naughtyathome.com

09-11-2002, 07:44 PM	#8
Desirae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 297	thats good to hear, maybe i will increase my monthly membership to 35.00. that would be amazing if i didnt see a drop in numbers from 24.95 to 35.00 a month. Desirae Spencer __________________ www.naughty4cash.com-Affiliate program for Desirae Spencer's Official Website: http://www.naughtyathome.com

09-11-2002, 07:46 PM	#9
Desirae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 297	i will never do a 3 minute trial myself. i believe that you need to get something out of them. plus, if you put free on there people think its a scam i feel. Desirae Spencer __________________ www.naughty4cash.com-Affiliate program for Desirae Spencer's Official Website: http://www.naughtyathome.com

09-11-2002, 07:02 PM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	many people will tell you that trials are not worth it,, you might get smaller sales but its not as significant and you'll make more in the long run,, there is alot of seasoned surfers that will rape your site for 2.95 trial and never intending to pay anymore,,

09-11-2002, 07:05 PM	#3
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	Desirae you are good normally its around 35% from a trial to an active member. and the average member normally last 2-3 months but your site might be an exception

09-11-2002, 07:37 PM	#6
pimpdog3 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 652	I am currently retaining 36% of my trials to rebills. I have a 3 day trial at 5.99 which used to be 3.95. I saw no difference in the signups and cancels. I also had a 3.95 trial rebill to 19.99 then switched to the 5.99 trial to 34.99 rebill and saw no difference in retention and conversion. bottom line: The surfer is horny, wants to get inside and smack his thingy and 65% of the assholes cancel no matter what the price is. I bet you can have a small members area with a small selection of content vs a huge members area and expect about a 10% increase in retention. So the question is... is it worth spending tons on content to get a 10% increase in rebills or update regularly and grow as your site grows and pocket that money you saved on buying content instead of waiting months and months to get your money back(+10% rebills) on the content you purchased. sorry if my post is scattered.. just thinking out loud.

09-11-2002, 07:42 PM	#7
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Has anyone tried the 30 minute trials yet?

09-11-2002, 08:29 PM	#10
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	With a few exceptions, you'll almost always make more $$ with trials than without. I push one site really hard that only converts 20% of the trials some months, but every way we've tested it, it makes more $$ with trials than without, both in the short and in the long term. With a solo girl amateur site, I wouldn't charge too much. No more than $30 but most solo girl amateur sites stay in the $20-$25 range. I think the main reason for this is that most of your members are also members at other sites. They very well may think you're the greatest thing since sliced bread, but you can't be on the cam 24/7, so when you're not putting on a cam show they have something else they fall back on to get their "relief". The hangups of trials? Make sure you have a good htaccess file or a script running on the server side to prevent the "leech" programs from downloading your entire members area during the trial period. Also, if I were you, I'd watermark EVERY SINGLE ONE of my pics and mpegs with the URL of your site. There are going to be people who steal your content and put it on bbs boards etc, at least if you have your URL on the content you can get a few extra members out of the deal. That's my

09-11-2002, 08:32 PM	#11
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	I need a new password i miss watching you . So sad Have you thought about what we discussed the other day?

09-11-2002, 09:49 PM	#13
Shady Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 377	35% turn over from trial to monthly is good! its above industry average which is somewhere from 20-30 % __________________ Tired of cookie cutter sites?