Are rape, cp, incest STORIES illegal? - GoFuckYourself.com

Lexxx · 09-10-2002, 04:55 PM

Any knowledge on the legality of the text stories describing the aforementioned...emm... fantasies?

reddawg · 09-10-2002, 04:59 PM

You will have to ask Lawrence Connor, you know..........

Lawrence Connor owns his own domain

mika · 09-10-2002, 05:03 PM

Legal

Ted · 09-10-2002, 05:03 PM

My guess is they are legal, lots of mainstream "bestsellers" cover the same topics.

morality is another question entirely

Fro · 09-10-2002, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted
My guess is they are legal, lots of mainstream "bestsellers" cover the same topics.

morality is another question entirely

Morality is illegal.

Ted · 09-10-2002, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Fro

Morality is illegal.

Thats a relief, I'd hate be found breaking the law

Roach · 09-10-2002, 05:11 PM

Bump!

Fro · 09-10-2002, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted

Thats a relief, I'd hate be found breaking the law

Jayson · 09-10-2002, 05:13 PM

Legal in the US due to first ammendment pretections, not so in all countries though including Australia where the really extreme stuff would be "refused classification" - that doesnt restrict reading it just selling or distributing it.

Fro · 09-10-2002, 05:16 PM

Jay, your government restricts the distribution of information?

JConway · 09-10-2002, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Ted
My guess is they are legal, lots of mainstream "bestsellers" cover the same topics.

morality is another question entirely

I am not so sure that they are legal. We certainly avoid them, and specify "us legal" for our library. I would be very interested to get a firm answer on this question?

Wizzo · 09-10-2002, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fro
Jay, your government restricts the distribution of information?

Most governments restrict the distribution of information, that their job!

Fro · 09-10-2002, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JConway

I am not so sure that they are legal. We certainly avoid them, and specify "us legal" for our library. I would be very interested to get a firm answer on this question?

Christ! You license erotic fiction and you can't answer this question?

Jayson · 09-10-2002, 05:21 PM

Yep, no such thing as the first ammendment here. Only 2 states are able to sell X rated material.

Its fucked - prostitution is legal but 95% of the population cant rent a X rated movie in their own state.

I can produce whatever content I like but I cant sell it to or give it to anyone but myself or I could face goal (jail) time. So I have to send my content to myself outside of Australia before I can sell it. If I was to send it directly to a clients FTP server then I could be prosecuted. Got to love fucked up laws. Hosting my content site in Australia would be totally illegal.

Lexxx · 09-10-2002, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by mika
Legal

Think so too... but still would be nice to know for sure.

I know at least that Nabokov's "Lolita" is selling everywhere, and it describes a grossly underaged girl doing stuff with a grossly aged person...

Mr.Fiction · 09-10-2002, 05:37 PM

I would be interested to know where EroticLibrary.nu gets their content. Is it all licensed or is any of it stolen from usenet, asstr, or somewhere else?

Your site says you add 50 new stories a week. I can't imagine where you could buy that kind of story content for anything that would make it affordable.

Is all of the content licensed from the authors?

I just checked, and several of the sample stories I looked at make me a bit suspicious about where these stories are coming from.

Do you have authorization from each author to publish their stories for profit and to re-distribute them to other sites for profit?

Remember, stories have the same copyrights as pictures and there is no such thing as public domain.

Maybe you are doing everything legal, but I would like you to answer on this thread about the permission you have to redistribute these stories?

Fletch XXX · 09-10-2002, 05:40 PM

It is my belief, they are legal as of now.

Fantasy is fantasy until acted out.

http://www.lawrencewalters.com

Fro · 09-10-2002, 05:43 PM

I'd still like to hear James' answer to Mr. Fiction.

Scootermuze · 09-10-2002, 06:07 PM

If stories of incest are illegal.. then we need to get the bible banned..

Gary · 09-10-2002, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze
If stories of incest are illegal.. then we need to get the bible banned..

The bible should be banned anyway

traffictrader · 09-10-2002, 06:17 PM

legal, however.. if you have knowledge that they describe actually events or people the names of the victims better be changed or you can see yourself in a heap of legal problems, other than that.. enjoy the first amendment rights Larry Flynt helped protect you to have.

Fro · 09-10-2002, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JConway

I am not so sure that they are legal. We certainly avoid them, and specify "us legal" for our library. I would be very interested to get a firm answer on this question?

Any word on your libraries yet, dude? You've bee rather evasive.

<IMX> · 09-10-2002, 07:10 PM

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If stories of incest are illegal.. then we need to get the bible banned..

History books too...

You beat me to it.

Also, The legal age for everything has continued to rise in developed nations--along with per capita income, status of women etc...
200 years ago folks were probably getting married a bit past puberty.

Joe Sixpack · 09-10-2002, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Gary

The bible should be banned anyway

I want to take a shit on the Bible.

Stealthy · 09-11-2002, 01:38 PM

That's what I DON'T get, selling, producing or OWNING images of those topics is pretty much illegal everywhere, yet a descriptive story about the same things isn't? Well, I guess when the governments of the world can finally censor our thoughts like you know they wish they could, it will be too...

Fletch XXX · 09-11-2002, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stealthy
I guess when the governments of the world can finally censor our thoughts like you know they wish they could, it will be too...

"next thing ya know, they'll take my thoughts away." Holy war... the Punishments Due.

Brad Mitchell · 09-11-2002, 02:14 PM

Yeah I want to hear the answer to Mr. Fiction's question too.

Brad

Fletch XXX · 09-11-2002, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I would be interested to know where EroticLibrary.nu gets their content. Is it all licensed or is any of it stolen from usenet, asstr, or somewhere else?

Your site says you add 50 new stories a week. I can't imagine where you could buy that kind of story content for anything that would make it affordable.

Is all of the content licensed from the authors?

I just checked, and several of the sample stories I looked at make me a bit suspicious about where these stories are coming from.

Do you have authorization from each author to publish their stories for profit and to re-distribute them to other sites for profit?

Remember, stories have the same copyrights as pictures and there is no such thing as public domain.

Maybe you are doing everything legal, but I would like you to answer on this thread about the permission you have to redistribute these stories?

I am very good friends with some writers whom have written for WebQuest, FlyntDigital for more than 5 years. And have seen many people ripping writers off in this business.

Writers get ripped off more than anyone on the net I think.

bash · 09-11-2002, 02:16 PM

I don't like this thread... When will it die?

Fletch XXX · 09-11-2002, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Yeah I want to hear the answer to Mr. Fiction's question too.

Brad

The more I think about it, so do I.

I have seen my friends work bastardized and resold.

In buying Story content over the years, I hjave found a few jewels.

Can you imagine, I even know of a Site that charges for stories for Member sections, but they even give credit to "Unknown Author from BBS" can you fucking believe that?

Name withheld to start obvious flames.

Gemini · 09-11-2002, 02:30 PM

We turned a site in last summer to Helmy that combined all three of those subjects in stories and he came back with that they ARE legal at this time (then anyhow). Since there hasn't been any news articles, odds are they still are legal. Tasteless as they are.

CDSmith · 09-11-2002, 02:50 PM

Although you and I may find certain people's fantasies to be tasteless and unappealing, people have a right to their fantasies regardless.

As long as the author is not instructing or counselling others to do harm or inciting hatred, fantasy-only works of fiction are legal, at least according to the FBI. That's good enough for me.

Fletch XXX · 09-11-2002, 02:53 PM

Charless Bronson Movies have some of the most violent rape scenes I have seen that are just released on DVD everyday. No, "Extreme Rape Scene" warning, nothing. Everybody loves a good Bronson movie eh?

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Jayson Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CZ Posts: 554	Yep, no such thing as the first ammendment here. Only 2 states are able to sell X rated material. Its fucked - prostitution is legal but 95% of the population cant rent a X rated movie in their own state. I can produce whatever content I like but I cant sell it to or give it to anyone but myself or I could face goal (jail) time. So I have to send my content to myself outside of Australia before I can sell it. If I was to send it directly to a clients FTP server then I could be prosecuted. Got to love fucked up laws. Hosting my content site in Australia would be totally illegal. __________________ Sapphic Cash - We Do It Right

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	I would be interested to know where EroticLibrary.nu gets their content. Is it all licensed or is any of it stolen from usenet, asstr, or somewhere else? Your site says you add 50 new stories a week. I can't imagine where you could buy that kind of story content for anything that would make it affordable. Is all of the content licensed from the authors? I just checked, and several of the sample stories I looked at make me a bit suspicious about where these stories are coming from. Do you have authorization from each author to publish their stories for profit and to re-distribute them to other sites for profit? Remember, stories have the same copyrights as pictures and there is no such thing as public domain. Maybe you are doing everything legal, but I would like you to answer on this thread about the permission you have to redistribute these stories?

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