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Lexxx 09-10-2002 04:55 PM

Are rape, cp, incest STORIES illegal?
 
Any knowledge on the legality of the text stories describing the aforementioned...emm... fantasies?

reddawg 09-10-2002 04:59 PM

You will have to ask Lawrence Connor, you know..........

Lawrence Connor owns his own domain:)

mika 09-10-2002 05:03 PM

Legal

Ted 09-10-2002 05:03 PM

My guess is they are legal, lots of mainstream "bestsellers" cover the same topics.

morality is another question entirely

Fro 09-10-2002 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted
My guess is they are legal, lots of mainstream "bestsellers" cover the same topics.

morality is another question entirely

Morality is illegal.

Ted 09-10-2002 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro


Morality is illegal.

Thats a relief, I'd hate be found breaking the law :1orglaugh

Roach 09-10-2002 05:11 PM

Bump!

Fro 09-10-2002 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted


Thats a relief, I'd hate be found breaking the law :1orglaugh

:thumbsup

Jayson 09-10-2002 05:13 PM

Legal in the US due to first ammendment pretections, not so in all countries though including Australia where the really extreme stuff would be "refused classification" - that doesnt restrict reading it just selling or distributing it.

Fro 09-10-2002 05:16 PM

Jay, your government restricts the distribution of information?

JConway 09-10-2002 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted
My guess is they are legal, lots of mainstream "bestsellers" cover the same topics.

morality is another question entirely

I am not so sure that they are legal. We certainly avoid them, and specify "us legal" for our library. I would be very interested to get a firm answer on this question?

Wizzo 09-10-2002 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fro
Jay, your government restricts the distribution of information?
Most governments restrict the distribution of information, that their job!

Fro 09-10-2002 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JConway


I am not so sure that they are legal. We certainly avoid them, and specify "us legal" for our library. I would be very interested to get a firm answer on this question?

Christ! You license erotic fiction and you can't answer this question?

Jayson 09-10-2002 05:21 PM

Yep, no such thing as the first ammendment here. Only 2 states are able to sell X rated material.

Its fucked - prostitution is legal but 95% of the population cant rent a X rated movie in their own state.

I can produce whatever content I like but I cant sell it to or give it to anyone but myself or I could face goal (jail) time. So I have to send my content to myself outside of Australia before I can sell it. If I was to send it directly to a clients FTP server then I could be prosecuted. Got to love fucked up laws. Hosting my content site in Australia would be totally illegal.

Lexxx 09-10-2002 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
Legal
Think so too... but still would be nice to know for sure.

I know at least that Nabokov's "Lolita" is selling everywhere, and it describes a grossly underaged girl doing stuff with a grossly aged person...

Mr.Fiction 09-10-2002 05:37 PM

I would be interested to know where EroticLibrary.nu gets their content. Is it all licensed or is any of it stolen from usenet, asstr, or somewhere else?

Your site says you add 50 new stories a week. I can't imagine where you could buy that kind of story content for anything that would make it affordable.

Is all of the content licensed from the authors?

I just checked, and several of the sample stories I looked at make me a bit suspicious about where these stories are coming from.

Do you have authorization from each author to publish their stories for profit and to re-distribute them to other sites for profit?

Remember, stories have the same copyrights as pictures and there is no such thing as public domain.

Maybe you are doing everything legal, but I would like you to answer on this thread about the permission you have to redistribute these stories?

Fletch XXX 09-10-2002 05:40 PM

It is my belief, they are legal as of now.

Fantasy is fantasy until acted out.

http://www.lawrencewalters.com

Fro 09-10-2002 05:43 PM

I'd still like to hear James' answer to Mr. Fiction.

Scootermuze 09-10-2002 06:07 PM

If stories of incest are illegal.. then we need to get the bible banned..

Gary 09-10-2002 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
If stories of incest are illegal.. then we need to get the bible banned..
The bible should be banned anyway

traffictrader 09-10-2002 06:17 PM

legal, however.. if you have knowledge that they describe actually events or people the names of the victims better be changed or you can see yourself in a heap of legal problems, other than that.. enjoy the first amendment rights Larry Flynt helped protect you to have.

Fro 09-10-2002 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JConway


I am not so sure that they are legal. We certainly avoid them, and specify "us legal" for our library. I would be very interested to get a firm answer on this question?

Any word on your libraries yet, dude? You've bee rather evasive.

<IMX> 09-10-2002 07:10 PM

Quote:

If stories of incest are illegal.. then we need to get the bible banned..
History books too...

You beat me to it.

Also, The legal age for everything has continued to rise in developed nations--along with per capita income, status of women etc...
200 years ago folks were probably getting married a bit past puberty.
:2 cents:

Joe Sixpack 09-10-2002 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary


The bible should be banned anyway

I want to take a shit on the Bible.

Stealthy 09-11-2002 01:38 PM

That's what I DON'T get, selling, producing or OWNING images of those topics is pretty much illegal everywhere, yet a descriptive story about the same things isn't? Well, I guess when the governments of the world can finally censor our thoughts like you know they wish they could, it will be too...

Fletch XXX 09-11-2002 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stealthy
I guess when the governments of the world can finally censor our thoughts like you know they wish they could, it will be too...
"next thing ya know, they'll take my thoughts away." Holy war... the Punishments Due.

:glugglug

Brad Mitchell 09-11-2002 02:14 PM

Yeah I want to hear the answer to Mr. Fiction's question too.


Brad

Fletch XXX 09-11-2002 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I would be interested to know where EroticLibrary.nu gets their content. Is it all licensed or is any of it stolen from usenet, asstr, or somewhere else?

Your site says you add 50 new stories a week. I can't imagine where you could buy that kind of story content for anything that would make it affordable.

Is all of the content licensed from the authors?

I just checked, and several of the sample stories I looked at make me a bit suspicious about where these stories are coming from.

Do you have authorization from each author to publish their stories for profit and to re-distribute them to other sites for profit?

Remember, stories have the same copyrights as pictures and there is no such thing as public domain.

Maybe you are doing everything legal, but I would like you to answer on this thread about the permission you have to redistribute these stories?

I am very good friends with some writers whom have written for WebQuest, FlyntDigital for more than 5 years. And have seen many people ripping writers off in this business.

Writers get ripped off more than anyone on the net I think.

bash 09-11-2002 02:16 PM

I don't like this thread... When will it die? :(

Fletch XXX 09-11-2002 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Yeah I want to hear the answer to Mr. Fiction's question too.


Brad

The more I think about it, so do I.

I have seen my friends work bastardized and resold.

In buying Story content over the years, I hjave found a few jewels.

Can you imagine, I even know of a Site that charges for stories for Member sections, but they even give credit to "Unknown Author from BBS" can you fucking believe that?

Name withheld to start obvious flames.

Gemini 09-11-2002 02:30 PM

We turned a site in last summer to Helmy that combined all three of those subjects in stories and he came back with that they ARE legal at this time (then anyhow). Since there hasn't been any news articles, odds are they still are legal. Tasteless as they are. :(

CDSmith 09-11-2002 02:50 PM

Although you and I may find certain people's fantasies to be tasteless and unappealing, people have a right to their fantasies regardless.

As long as the author is not instructing or counselling others to do harm or inciting hatred, fantasy-only works of fiction are legal, at least according to the FBI. That's good enough for me.

Fletch XXX 09-11-2002 02:53 PM

Charless Bronson Movies have some of the most violent rape scenes I have seen that are just released on DVD everyday. No, "Extreme Rape Scene" warning, nothing. Everybody loves a good Bronson movie eh?

:glugglug


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