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Old 08-27-2007, 09:58 AM   #1
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TorrentSpy shuts down in the U.S.

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TorrentSpy.com, the BitTorrent tracking site facing a copyright lawsuit from the motion picture industry, is shutting down access to users in the United States, the company said in a statement late Sunday night.

The barring of U.S. residents by TorrentSpy comes as a U.S. district judge is expected to rule any day on whether TorrentSpy must turn over its user information to the Motion Picture Association of America. That group filed a civil complaint against the company last year accusing TorrentSpy of violating copyright law.

"TorrentSpy's decision to stop accepting U.S. visitors was not compelled by any court," according to a statement from the company. "Rather, it arises out of an uncertain legal climate in the United States regarding user privacy and the apparent tension between U.S. and European Union Internet privacy laws."

The company also said that because its servers are located in the Netherlands the site will remain accessible to users outside of the United States.

Although TorrentSpy doesn't host any pirated movies on its site, the search engine helps users find unauthorized copies, the MPAA alleged in its suit. TorrentSpy has argued that the company has many legitimate uses and is protected under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The DMCA provides safe harbor for Internet service providers and does not hold them responsible for unlawful acts committed by their users.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:59 AM   #2
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Good. I am tired of Thieves.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:00 AM   #3
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Wait I thought no one could win against them? lol
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:01 AM   #4
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so use a proxy outside the U.S.
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Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.
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I think it will be funny to keep a track of the popularity (traffic wise) of some of the sponsors that rely on torrents
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I myself have mixed feelings about this. On one hand we should have the right to our privacy, but on the other hand torrents are stealing. just think of all the business adult webmasters/adult sites would get if there were no torrents sites. I myself have used the torrents to promote adult content, but it doesn't make torrents right.
Just my .02 worth.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:08 AM   #12
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Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt fo what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they coe for the rest of us.
If I didn't knew you are around for so long, and that you are intelligent I would, say you were being naive, but since thats not the case...
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If I didn't knew you are around for so long, and that you are intelligent I would, say you were being naive, but since thats not the case...
So instead of anything remotely positive as an answer to my question, you pop off with a high school age one liner.

Run along. You probably have no idea even how torrents work, and you surely have nothing positive here to say.
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He's just getting scared. BTW all his adult stuff is on pinktorrent.com now, not torrentspy.com.
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Another sad day in the history of the internet. Day by day the net gets more controlled and Americans trying to rule the internet. In 10 years from now you cant even write a post on a messageboard without having to worry about 10 different laws and paying taxes etc.

Torrent sites are a part of the internet and shouldnt go anywhere.

Look at China and how they control their part of the internet. The US is heading that way....and will get there.

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nothing will ever be done about pirating.

blah blah blah.


you can't affect us.


blah blah blah.


looks to me like all that you can't touch us crap is caving in on some of these sites.


blah blah blah.


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Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.
You know as well as any one else TGP is not a Bit torrent. Its not a witch hunt these people distributing stolen content and making money off of it, movies, software,books. It has to stop.I know because its on the net its not supposed to count but stealing is a crime.
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Fuck all you thieves.

Put up a site that points people to stolen content and make money off of it. Lazy bastards. They're doing nothing more than stealing money from the people who actually sweated for it. Oh..and comparing TorrentSpy and the torrents sites to TGP/MGP's is just dumb. No TGP/MGP that I run or link to has ever listed a movie over 60 seconds long and that movie was accessed from a page with a referal link. Fuck with the movie industry and you get the horn, I hope we in the adult industry can say the same some day.
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Another sad day in the history of the internet. Day by day the net gets more controlled and Americans trying to rule the internet. In 10 years from now you cant even write a post on a messageboard without having to worry about 10 different laws and paying taxes etc.

Torrent sites are a part of the internet and shouldnt go anywhere.

Look at China and how they control their part of the internet. The US is heading that way....and will get there.
THe first sad day was when everyone thought is was alright to take things on the net that dont belong to you and use them to make money.
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You know as well as any one else TGP is not a Bit torrent. Its not a witch hunt these people distributing stolen content and making money off of it, movies, software,books. It has to stop.I know because its on the net its not supposed to count but stealing is a crime.
Incorrect, if you say that torrent sites owners are "distributing content' youd have a hell of time proving that in court. They dont distribute anything. Nothing but a link which allows users to connect and share.

No different than a TGP, and YES I do know the difference. I am playing devils advocate and asking a few questions it seems none of you even consider.

You just getting scared that porn is being traded in ways you never thought was coming.

In 2002 when I heard about torrents and read up on them, none of you were on here crying about them. I watched bands trade their own music, and no 5-6 years later - you guys realize too many blowjob vids are being shared and now want to go after them?

Im just taking part in this very important debate, not taking a side.

I dont care if any of you get arrested tomorrow and I surely dont *care* about torrentspy or its owner. But the fact is, torrent site operators are not providing the content, and users are.

To go after them is no different than going after any site that shows user content. Except the fact is, they dont even provide the content.

So its not like going after youtube....

(i can feel my profits go down as i sit here and waste time in this thread)
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Incorrect, if you say that torrent sites owners are "distributing content' youd have a hell of time proving that in court. They dont distribute anything. Nothing but a link which allows users to connect and share.

No different than a TGP, and YES I do know the difference. I am playing devils advocate and asking a few questions it seems none of you even consider.

You just getting scared that porn is being traded in ways you never thought was coming.

In 2002 when I heard about torrents and read up on them, none of you were on here crying about them. I watched bands trade their own music, and no 5-6 years later - you guys realize too many blowjob vids are being shared and now want to go after them?

Im just taking part in this very important debate, not taking a side.

I dont care if any of you get arrested tomorrow and I surely dont *care* about torrentspy or its owner. But the fact is, torrent site operators are not providing the content, and users are.

To go after them is no different than going after any site that shows user content. Except the fact is, they dont even provide the content.

So its not like going after youtube....

(i can feel my profits go down as i sit here and waste time in this thread)
You know better and we dont.
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on this note I depart. Things like this, are really not worth any of our time. Especially mine.

There is another $1000 out there with my name on it today. Time to make another grand instead of talking about technology from 2002. Torrents are old news, what will you guys go after next? ;)

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Put up a site that points people to stolen content and make money off of it. Lazy bastards. They're doing nothing more than stealing money from the people who actually sweated for it.
Yeah, Google and Yahoo should be shut down too! All that content they link that's not theirs to profit from.
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Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.
So you believe that a TGP owner should be immune from legality because his job is to link and not to pay attention??? He should be able to make a quick buck rather than an honest buck??? I know people say you have been around for a while, but that's a pretty fucked up view... Why not just say that it shouldn't be their problem and it's up to the content producers to police their own things???? that's essentially what you are saying.

Hell... that opinion is what makes torrents acceptable. Theft is theft, stealing is stealing... when it comes to my pocketbook.. the minute you dip into it and take my money... or my ability to make money with my content... you have become my enemy and fuck you and the likes of those that support you. I haven't been passionate about many things... but don't tell me I can work hard and produce a product, just to have some fuckwad come and borrow it so that he can make money from it while I have to sit here with my thumb up my ass wondering what to do about it.. or even worse..... kiss his puckered little a-hole and tell him that I know he isn't going anywhere so continue fucking me blind all you want. It's wrong.. they should all have their theiving little nuts chopped off. That my

Let em fuck the torrents over.. I applaud it... legitimate business if run properly has no need to fear as we should stand up and produce exactly what we are supposed to to operate properly. I have no fear of that. I will stand side by side with authorities that attack those doing things outside the law. No problem with it whatsoever.
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So instead of anything remotely positive as an answer to my question, you pop off with a high school age one liner.

Run along. You probably have no idea even how torrents work, and you surely have nothing positive here to say.
Whatever you say!

I hope you saved that primary whining-post, cause you are going to use it allot in coming threads...

Oh poor naive Fletch thinks these torrents have no clue or know their success is built on providing stolen content...ohhh

So because Torrents don't put direct liability on the tracker owners, that means they get a free ticket to make money out of stolen content! Yeah that sounds intelligent and fair
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THe first sad day was when everyone thought is was alright to take things on the net that dont belong to you and use them to make money.
And that is how the adult internet was invented.



People need to innovate more and stop crying. Then again, this board needs its impressions so carry on.
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Incorrect, if you say that torrent sites owners are "distributing content' youd have a hell of time proving that in court. They dont distribute anything. Nothing but a link which allows users to connect and share.

No different than a TGP, and YES I do know the difference. I am playing devils advocate and asking a few questions it seems none of you even consider.

You just getting scared that porn is being traded in ways you never thought was coming.

In 2002 when I heard about torrents and read up on them, none of you were on here crying about them. I watched bands trade their own music, and no 5-6 years later - you guys realize too many blowjob vids are being shared and now want to go after them?

Im just taking part in this very important debate, not taking a side.

I dont care if any of you get arrested tomorrow and I surely dont *care* about torrentspy or its owner. But the fact is, torrent site operators are not providing the content, and users are.

To go after them is no different than going after any site that shows user content. Except the fact is, they dont even provide the content.

So its not like going after youtube....

(i can feel my profits go down as i sit here and waste time in this thread)
WAIT WAIT WAIT... I got this one....

I don't distribute the cocaine.... I can just tell you where to get it..... but for that information.... it's going to cost you... or at the worst... look at this advertisement for AFF (because I don't make money selling stolen porn.. i only make money advertising while you look at copyrighted content that has legitimate protections against redistribution) while you are learning about whatever you want to learn about (or see) illegally...

What a stupid fucking opinion... torrents are OK because they don't host.. they just link... go sue each individual user that posts your shit... I would if they owned their own board.... the torrents are the problem.. take them away and little bobby that shares my porn will have to do it elsewhere.. then I will get them there too... It's more effective to go after the large locations. They are just playing pimp rather than being the hooker. They are both fucking you over.....
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And that is how the adult internet was invented.



People need to innovate more and stop crying. Then again, this board needs its impressions so carry on.
Do you create content?
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Torrent sites are a part of the internet and shouldnt go anywhere.

Look at China and how they control their part of the internet. The US is heading that way....and will get there.
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Incorrect, if you say that torrent sites owners are "distributing content' youd have a hell of time proving that in court. They dont distribute anything. Nothing but a link which allows users to connect and share.
Clubs get shut down all the time because people are selling/using drugs in them, right?

The clubs themselves may not be the ones actually selling the drugs, but they're providing an environment in which drugs can be distributed and used freely (and might even encourage it), and, as a result, they get shut down.... I've seen it happen all over the U.S... and it's an apt analogy here, I think.


I agree that we gotta be careful here, as there's a lot of privacy issues and rights of expression that could be easily trampled on... but for the first time, really... since all this piracy crap begun... technology's catching up to the end-product's specs... you can rip an entire site or DVD line with ease these days, host it, and let people download your company's last 4 years of work over the course of a few evenings of afk queued downloading... distribution of proprietary content without proprietary consent is not something that can be overlooked now as much as it has been in the past.

There has to be a middle ground here where privacy and freedom of expression issues are kept while allowing people to have control over their copywritten property.
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Yeah, Google and Yahoo should be shut down too! All that content they link that's not theirs to profit from.
Honestly Yahoo and Google should not link to the entire fucking world. Don't you think they should be policing things a little and taking reports of illegality more seriously?

If I told them that my content is being reproduced illegally at Megaerotic, or YouPorn or whatever fucking site, they should drop their links at the moment it is proven. Otherwise at some point someone somewhere is going to sue them as an accomplice for copyright infringement.... all it takes is the right lawyer and the right jury.

Fuckin A people... YouTube is full of infringed materials... it just depends on how good your lawyer is or how much you pay attention to that shit to how quickly it gets removed. They don't police it until after the fact! Until it's reported!.... They should be fined for it even being presented under their banner... as should every one of these torrent sites! They should be required to police the content and have records indicating that everything being reproduced is being done legally.

Shit.. i can't even get Kinko's to copy a picture of me that has a copyright on it...... they make me do it. Why can't everyone of these tube sites be required to do the same..... a total "not on my bandwidth" policy??? If you want that risk of posting even a link to something, you do it on your own.. but not with my name on it.... WHY????? because they can right now... because they can make money off it right now.

YouTube would be 100000 times less effective if all it had was people posting shit about themselves, rather than rips of every popular TV show, and commercial, and everything else in the world out there. ALL DONE ILLEGALLY.
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Clubs get shut down all the time because people are selling/using drugs in them, right?

The clubs themselves may not be the ones actually selling the drugs, but they're providing an environment in which drugs can be distributed and used freely (and might even encourage it), and, as a result, they get shut down.... I've seen it happen all over the U.S... and it's an apt analogy here, I think.


I agree that we gotta be careful here, as there's a lot of privacy issues and rights of expression that could be easily trampled on... but for the first time, really... since all this piracy crap begun... technology's catching up to the end-product's specs... you can rip an entire site or DVD line with ease these days, host it, and let people download your company's last 4 years of work over the course of a few evenings of afk queued downloading... distribution of proprietary content without proprietary consent is not something that can be overlooked now as much as it has been in the past.

There has to be a middle ground here where privacy and freedom of expression issues are kept while allowing people to have control over their copywritten property.
AMEN... well said
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You just getting scared that porn is being traded in ways you never thought was coming.
Cool ! Aiding and abetting the trade of stolen property ... That's real deep... a real thought provoking peek into the future of marketing. You sir are a visionary !
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Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.
Yes, well, you try and argue it with the sheeps. They hate thieves don't you know.
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Sorry, but because you are located in the USA you cannot use the search features of the Torrentspy.com website.Torrentspy's decision to stop accepting US visitors was NOT compelled by any Court but rather an uncertain legal climate in the US regarding user privacy and an apparent tension between US and European Union privacy laws.
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Incorrect, if you say that torrent sites owners are "distributing content' youd have a hell of time proving that in court. They dont distribute anything. Nothing but a link which allows users to connect and share.

No different than a TGP, and YES I do know the difference. I am playing devils advocate and asking a few questions it seems none of you even consider.

You just getting scared that porn is being traded in ways you never thought was coming.

In 2002 when I heard about torrents and read up on them, none of you were on here crying about them. I watched bands trade their own music, and no 5-6 years later - you guys realize too many blowjob vids are being shared and now want to go after them?

Im just taking part in this very important debate, not taking a side.

I dont care if any of you get arrested tomorrow and I surely dont *care* about torrentspy or its owner. But the fact is, torrent site operators are not providing the content, and users are.

To go after them is no different than going after any site that shows user content. Except the fact is, they dont even provide the content.

So its not like going after youtube....

(i can feel my profits go down as i sit here and waste time in this thread)
So you want everyone to believe that these big torrent owners are oblivious to the fact that 90%+ of the torrents on their site are for stolen/illegal material? Shouldn't it be the responsibilty of the torrent owner to police their site to make sure that people arn't using it to upload/share stolen content?

You say that porn is being traded in a new way...porn isn't like baseball cards...when you buy a membership to a paysite it doesn't give you the right to rip the content and start sharing it with your buddies and the rest of the world. We arn't talking about 15-30 second teaser clips or trailers that are being "traded", it's full videos, complete content sets....
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Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

if the vast majority of shemp links pointed to stolen content then he would have only himself to blame


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That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?
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Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

tgp's are not torrents , no matter how many times you repeat it.. the big difference is the majority of tgp's dont contain stolen content or link to it.
If they did then people would expect them to be shutdown.
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So you want everyone to believe that these big torrent owners are oblivious to the fact that 90%+ of the torrents on their site are for stolen/illegal material? Shouldn't it be the responsibilty of the torrent owner to police their site to make sure that people arn't using it to upload/share stolen content?

You say that porn is being traded in a new way...porn isn't like baseball cards...when you buy a membership to a paysite it doesn't give you the right to rip the content and start sharing it with your buddies and the rest of the world. We arn't talking about 15-30 second teaser clips or trailers that are being "traded", it's full videos, complete content sets....
Another AMEN.... Theft is theft.. no matter how you look at it. Share my teasers all you like.. that's what they are there for... but don't rip my content
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No different than a TGP, and YES I do know the difference. I am playing devils advocate and asking a few questions it seems none of you even consider.
As a TGP owner I don't knowingly link to stolen content nor do I condone the practice. The sole purpose of a TGP isn't to act as a forum for others to post and download stolen content
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The reasons why "legal" torrents are great for bands, people sharing video, is because it reduces bandwidth costs.

The problem is that when people are sharing "legal" files, they are doing so against the TOS of cable/dsl providers, who have it in their clause about running "servers".

Some ISP have blocked known ports for p2p and torrents. There is always workarounds for those trying to get through, but look out for the day when the cable company and DSL providers enforce their TOS issues.

Fagetabout bittorrent servers hosted overseas, its the last-leg that is the most vulnerable.

Look at "net neutrality" at what the cable/dsl providers were trying to do.

If cable/dsl wanted to not cry foul that people are eating up their bandwidth, then they will just start to charge more for higher upstreams.

Let economics decide who is going to pay for the "sharing".

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A couple people have noted it in this thread, but I think it's worth point out again: TorrentSpy has not been shut down - they merely are blocking US traffic from conducting searches.

See the TorrentSpy blog post here.

This was not forced upon them by the courts via the MPAA lawsuit, although IMO the decision to block US traffic is related to a recent ruling in that case.

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A couple people have noted it in this thread, but I think it's worth point out again: TorrentSpy has not been shut down - they merely are blocking US traffic from conducting searches.

See the TorrentSpy blog post here.

This was not forced upon them by the courts via the MPAA lawsuit, although IMO the decision to block US traffic is related to a recent ruling in that case.

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Fine.... let them start this way... a good portion of their sales come from the US anyway... as do other torrent sites.

Let's see.... if 75-80% of my sales come from US based customers... and those customers can't get my product illegally.... then they will have to shop for it legally...

OK... no problem with them cutting out US surfers.... when the legal situations in other countries require the same... then they are effectively shut down.
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