Any of you 9/11 Conspiracy nutjobs watching the History Channel? - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 08-26-2007, 01:36 AM

If so, any retort?

DeadFidel · 08-26-2007, 01:44 AM

It was on earlier, fell asleep. All the info seemed to be rehashed.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2007, 02:03 AM

anyone who thinks 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy doesn't understand how to use a dictionary.

ronaldo · 08-26-2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

anyone who thinks 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy doesn't understand how to use a dictionary.

By definition, yes, you're correct. There was a conspiracy. A conspiracy however, that didn't involve the US Government.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2007, 02:15 AM

if your watching though you could answer a few questions they might have touched upon that i haven't really heard answered though i'm sure have completely rational explanations..

#1 the molton steel found in the base of wtc1 wtc2 and wtc7 weeks after it was over.

were the reports overblown? , can the fires cause molton globs of steel to burn this long ?

#2 the guys who came up from the basement with their skin burnt off in wtc 1 . did they explain this at all ? kerosene flooding down the elevator shafts ? what caused the damage to the lobby of wtc

theres quite a few others (questions) that i'm sure they cant touch on because there isn't really much to say but about the lack of videos of the pentagon crash and why they havent shown them..

SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2007, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

By definition, yes, you're correct.

by logic , by definition , by words , by whatever you want to call it. thats why i said it

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

There was a conspiracy. A conspiracy however, that didn't involve the US Government.

unless you happen to have a list of everyone involved i think that would be a silly shot-in-the-dark guess. the definition doesnt have anything about the usa governemnt in it. thus its correct any way you look at it..

but i think it would be a safe bet that no "high ranking" usa gov official had any part in planning 9/11 directly..

Angelo22 · 08-26-2007, 02:26 AM

I have some of the pentagon vidfeos, once i find them i'll show them to you.
Its clearly shown it wasnt an airplane that crashed onto it though

pocketkangaroo · 08-26-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

If so, any retort?

It's pretty obvious that the History Channel is behind the conspiracy too.

SNL · 08-26-2007, 07:19 AM

What I could never understand is how a plane could vaporize into the pentagon, but then later they could identify all the passengers except 5.

How can a plane melt that much but human flesh can be recognized?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...1202-2001Nov20

Investigators have identified remains of 184 people who were aboard American Airlines Flight 77 or inside the Pentagon, including those of the five hijackers, but they say it is impossible to match what is left with the five missing people.

GITZINGER · 08-26-2007, 07:33 AM

Yeah, alot of their expert responses were pretty weak too. 3 things that gave me a chuckle about the expert explanation on some of the Pentagon questions:

on how a bad/inexperienced pilot that couldn't fly a Cessna let alone pull the maneuvers it took to fly into the Pentagon:

"He didn't need to be an expert, he wasn't taking off or landing, all he had to do was steer"

so diving down 10's of thousands of feet and evening out and flying 10 feet off the ground in a 100 ton Jet is just "Steering"

Their "expert response" to the small round hole coming out of the 3rd ring at the pentagon even after they agreed that the nose of a plane is very fragile:

"once the jet hit the pentagon and entered the first ring, the jet fuel exploded and turned the front of the jet into a missile that then blew thru 2 more pentagon rings........

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Then why didn't it do the same thing to the jets that hit the towers? the front of the planes blowing thru those towers and coming out the other side as a missile would be a hellava lot easier than blowing thru 3 concrete and steel enforced rings of the Pentagon.

Lastly, I''ve seen alot of people say that the reason they don't want to release any of the tapes from over 20 different cameras pointing at that part of the Pentagon is for security reasons. I call bullshit. Then why did they release a bullshit tape that you can't see anything and say it's the complete tape and that's all they have, why not just say no to the requests. Also, a fucking plane supposedly smashed thru 3 walls of the pentagon, I don't think their security is really in need of being hidden, it obviously barely exists and the worst case scenario pretty much already happened.

I'd say everyone's stories on both sides are pretty thin.

Minte · 08-26-2007, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

anyone who thinks 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy doesn't understand how to use a dictionary.

One mans conspiracy is another mans mission. The fact that it was a sneak attack doesn't change the fact that it was a coordinated,planned mission.

Dagwolf · 08-26-2007, 07:35 AM

I can't watch the history channel right now, the government is trying to scan my brain. I'm jamming all signals right now except this one.

Raul_Mallcom · 08-27-2007, 07:36 AM

The part that got me was when that news reporter said right after they where secondary explosions on the sides of the buildings. They spotlighted the blasts going off before the building started to crumble.

I believe it was a conspiracy personally. I think its way to many things to over look.

Huggles · 08-27-2007, 07:47 AM

Impossible to be a conspiriacy.

If humans planned this, something would have leaked.

Remember, if this was a conspiriacy, it was executed flawlessly. 0 evidence left behind. Not 1 shred of evidence, not 1 whistle blower, not 1 document, not 1 witness, not 1 smoking gun. Just some videos made by teenagers set to spooky music with a lot of suggestive video editing.

Matt 26z · 08-27-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

If humans planned this, something would have leaked.

Don't be so sure of yourself. Many anti-conspiracy people claim that such an opperation would have taken thousands of people, yet they overlook the fact that the al-Qaeda story involves only a few dozen with direct involvement in the planning and implementation.

While a conspiracy would have involved more people than an actual terror attack, the conspiracy has the luxury of invoving people who don't even know they are involved. The example I like to use are the machinists who built the parts for the atomic bomb. To this day these people likely do not even know what they built.

As for the people who would have known what they were doing leading up to 9/11, realize that their involvement would have been based on a great deal of trust in the first place. These would have been the same types of people who work on top secret military technology that never leaks out even though it's some pretty amazing stuff.

nico-t · 08-27-2007, 08:45 AM

baddog please post proof

Mr Steele · 08-27-2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Don't be so sure of yourself. Many anti-conspiracy people claim that such an opperation would have taken thousands of people, yet they overlook the fact that the al-Qaeda story involves only a few dozen with direct involvement in the planning and implementation.

While a conspiracy would have involved more people than an actual terror attack, the conspiracy has the luxury of involving people who don't even know they are involved. The example I like to use are the machinists who built the parts for the atomic bomb. To this day these people likely do not even know what they built.

As for the people who would have known what they were doing leading up to 9/11, realize that their involvement would have been based on a great deal of trust in the first place. These would have been the same types of people who work on top secret military technology that never leaks out even though it's some pretty amazing stuff.

1 word.. Compartmentalization

cherrylula · 08-27-2007, 10:04 AM

If you saw it on the tv, it must be true.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-27-2007, 10:33 AM

FACT: Osama knew Bush would invade Iraq.
FACT: The 9/11 Attack was pre-emptive to the comming Bush Administration's already planned invasion of Iraq.
FACT: Afghanistan is nothing more than a bonus war front to Halyburton.

FACT:American Agencies were aware of the 9/11 attack. It was just the thing needed to rally americans to war in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

FACT: The plane that :crashed: into the Pentagon was actually shot down by Surface to Air missiles. I doubt the American people would be happy about the government shooting down an airliner full of people.

StuartD · 08-27-2007, 10:43 AM

Anyone who is 100% conspiracy is an idiot.

Anyone who absolutely refuses to believe there's even a chance of some conspiracy possibilities is an idiot.

These days, ANYTHING is possible... from one extreme to the other and a whole world of possibilities in between.

Neither "side" will ever agree on anything, nor will they ever really tell the true stories.... all we can do is play internet detective and decide one way or another.

I prefer to keep an open mind... I believe neither side.

08-26-2007, 02:03 AM	#3
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08-26-2007, 02:15 AM	#5
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	if your watching though you could answer a few questions they might have touched upon that i haven't really heard answered though i'm sure have completely rational explanations.. #1 the molton steel found in the base of wtc1 wtc2 and wtc7 weeks after it was over. were the reports overblown? , can the fires cause molton globs of steel to burn this long ? #2 the guys who came up from the basement with their skin burnt off in wtc 1 . did they explain this at all ? kerosene flooding down the elevator shafts ? what caused the damage to the lobby of wtc theres quite a few others (questions) that i'm sure they cant touch on because there isn't really much to say but about the lack of videos of the pentagon crash and why they havent shown them.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

08-26-2007, 02:26 AM	#7
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08-26-2007, 07:33 AM	#10
GITZINGER Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: up your sisters ass Posts: 929	Yeah, alot of their expert responses were pretty weak too. 3 things that gave me a chuckle about the expert explanation on some of the Pentagon questions: on how a bad/inexperienced pilot that couldn't fly a Cessna let alone pull the maneuvers it took to fly into the Pentagon: "He didn't need to be an expert, he wasn't taking off or landing, all he had to do was steer" so diving down 10's of thousands of feet and evening out and flying 10 feet off the ground in a 100 ton Jet is just "Steering" Their "expert response" to the small round hole coming out of the 3rd ring at the pentagon even after they agreed that the nose of a plane is very fragile: "once the jet hit the pentagon and entered the first ring, the jet fuel exploded and turned the front of the jet into a missile that then blew thru 2 more pentagon rings........ riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Then why didn't it do the same thing to the jets that hit the towers? the front of the planes blowing thru those towers and coming out the other side as a missile would be a hellava lot easier than blowing thru 3 concrete and steel enforced rings of the Pentagon. Lastly, I''ve seen alot of people say that the reason they don't want to release any of the tapes from over 20 different cameras pointing at that part of the Pentagon is for security reasons. I call bullshit. Then why did they release a bullshit tape that you can't see anything and say it's the complete tape and that's all they have, why not just say no to the requests. Also, a fucking plane supposedly smashed thru 3 walls of the pentagon, I don't think their security is really in need of being hidden, it obviously barely exists and the worst case scenario pretty much already happened. I'd say everyone's stories on both sides are pretty thin. __________________ Your momma was a ho!!!

08-26-2007, 07:35 AM	#12
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08-26-2007, 01:36 AM	#1
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08-26-2007, 01:44 AM	#2
DeadFidel Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: This was my wife circa 2002 Posts: 6,760	It was on earlier, fell asleep. All the info seemed to be rehashed.

08-26-2007, 07:19 AM	#9
SNL Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 290	What I could never understand is how a plane could vaporize into the pentagon, but then later they could identify all the passengers except 5. How can a plane melt that much but human flesh can be recognized? http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...1202-2001Nov20 Investigators have identified remains of 184 people who were aboard American Airlines Flight 77 or inside the Pentagon, including those of the five hijackers, but they say it is impossible to match what is left with the five missing people.

08-27-2007, 07:36 AM	#13
Raul_Mallcom Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Glen Cove NY Posts: 179	The part that got me was when that news reporter said right after they where secondary explosions on the sides of the buildings. They spotlighted the blasts going off before the building started to crumble. I believe it was a conspiracy personally. I think its way to many things to over look. __________________ Mallcom Sample Stores: Team Tushy Thumbzilla.com Earn thousands of dollars in retail profits using product sales!! Signup Now

08-27-2007, 07:47 AM	#14
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,150	Impossible to be a conspiriacy. If humans planned this, something would have leaked. Remember, if this was a conspiriacy, it was executed flawlessly. 0 evidence left behind. Not 1 shred of evidence, not 1 whistle blower, not 1 document, not 1 witness, not 1 smoking gun. Just some videos made by teenagers set to spooky music with a lot of suggestive video editing. __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

08-27-2007, 08:45 AM	#16
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	baddog please post proof

08-27-2007, 10:04 AM	#18
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	If you saw it on the tv, it must be true.

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08-27-2007, 10:43 AM	#20
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