sweetcuties

Just bookmarked... finally, something's being done! Fuck all this free and stolen shit

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geeknik

Not going to happen no matter how hard you try.

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Acedge

I really sorry to state that no matter how many torrent sites you shut-down, there will always be enough to supply the want for those who wish to pirate it. The internet is ever expanding, and to believe you can actually shut-down all torrent sites, means that you have not even glimpsed the rate in which these sites are born. I'm afraid that by shutting them down your only going to cause more of a need for them. For some reason, the individuals want for more is unquenchable, the more you take it away from them the more likely they are going to find ways to get it; i.e. illegal drugs. We've have created a monster that is internet, unless you plan on shutting down the World Wide Web, you will never be able to stop piracy. Thank you for your time.

Amputate Your Head

I love torrent sites. And the fact is, they're here to stay. Better get used to it. Every day more people get educated on how to use them, and every day they become easier to use. I agree with Acedge... there's no way to shut it down without shutting down the Internet.

Viva La Torrent!

SacredCow

*crys* MY WHORES AREN'T GETTING PAID ENOUGH *CRYS* HOW CAN I GIVE THEM HEALTH BENEFITS FOR SWALLOWING CUM! LOUSY PIRATES! BLAME THEM FOR OUR PROBLEMS! *crys* you won't win buddy, give it up. Your fighting a dying cause, MPAA didn't win, RIAA didn't win, Comcast isn't winning (my house computer is on comcast and downloading plenty of porno torrents) Your industry will lose much more than 4% a year if you keep this fight up, believe me. Just ask the MPAA, just ask the RIAA. Their sales prove your fight isn't worth the effort.

You want a bigger profit margin to make up for the losses? Hire cheap hookers, $50 a pop and you have yourself the same whore but 90% cheaper.

tony286

I was going to say something but your not worth it.

RawAlex

I guess that one post has managed to drag in all the torrent apologists. Too bad that all that time you spend downloading stuff wasn't spent on basic comprehension.

Nobody, repeat NOBODY is aiming to take down all the torrent sites. That isn't the point and that isn't the issue. If you want to trade files with your friends, knock yourself out. All that anyone is looking for is that copyrighted material is taken down, that things like full site rips, full DVD rips, and full length videos are not made available, and when they come up, they need to be removed immediately.

You can trade all the files you want - as long as you have the rights to them.

The average 4 or 5 scene porn movie costs in the tens of thousands of dollars to produce. Paying the actors, renting the location, equipment, post production, getting legal rights for music and such... it all costs money to do. Porn isn't a "get a video camera and a $50 hooker" business, sorry.

The more you guys steal, the less chance that new porn will get made, and you will be all crying because there is no fresh pr0n to spank your monkey to while your mom is at the shopping center.

The internet isn't an excuse to steal from everyone anymore than a powerfailure should be a reason to loot stores. A few idiots entice everyone else to break the law.

Kevin Marx

Everything you were saying was pretty accurate except for this.

You cannot trade files you have the rights to unless the party on the receiving end has rights to the file as well.

You cannot share files with someone that does not have a legal right to that file (i.e. they have paid their licensing fees, own a membership as you do etc.)

Torrents are 97% theft and on the rarity, actually good for sharing.

A band can offer their music on a torrent for distribution, but a listener does not have the right to re-distribute without permission from the originator.

An artist can offer their artwork digitally reproduced, but a viewer cannot re-distribute without permission.

Theft is theft... Just because you can get away with it, doesn't make it right.

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chodadog

Of course the listener can redistribute the file. Why on earth would a band make their album available as a torrent and not allow the downloaders to seed that file? What would be the point, exactly? Are you suggesting that only the band can seed their album?

The only reason a band would release their own album as a torrent would be for exposure and ease of distribution. In other words, they don't want a bandwidth bill. If nobody else can seed their file, then they'll be footing the entire bandwidth bill anyways. The end-user licensing agreement is a whole other ball game when you're willingly giving your stuff away, especially across a medium like bit torrent.

This thread's been great. Really interested in seeing how this anti-piracy effort pans out. Good luck.

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Blufox

The big movie studios spend much more than tens of thousands of dollars on their movies and they have had no success defeating piracy. Somebody taking your product and not paying for it is theft, but the internet has enabled people to do this without any consequence except for a very small handful of people. You can try and take down torrents or nzb sites, but even if you are successful in taking down any at all, new ones will pop up. The fact that this story is hitting the mainstream makes it even more popular and the torrent and nzb sites get press, meaning more traffic.

Metallica spent lots of money on lawyers to prevent their music from being pirated. The end result was a huge loss of fans and money, and their music is still all over the internet readily available for download.

Think about the analogy of a farmers crop and a bug infestation. A farmer has a good year and is able to make money from his crop. The next year bugs infest his crop, which leads to less earnings. He then starts using pesticide, kills the bugs, but also potentially poisoning some of his crop. Then over the years the bugs adapt to the pesticide and are unaffected which leads the farmer to other more expensive pesticides. There is no end to it, the ante always has to be upped.

You can see the pesticide as any method to thwart piracy, but eventually piracy groups will find away around it. DRM could be used, but think of your members who download videos and then maybe convert them to another format to put on their Ipod or other media player. With DRM they won't be able to do this. You could offer an ipod format, that of course would mean more cost to you in the form of bandwidth, or they could say screw it and find a another site that doesn't put DRM on their videos.

Like I said this story has hit the news sites and is it sounds like your trying to find a way to combat piracy. Whatever you decide on, what you are really doing is issuing a challenge to the piracy community. That's how they will see it and right now they are undefeated. Think long and hard about what you are going to do because it probably will end up with you losing more money in the long run than recouping that 4%.