I nominate MOJOHOST for bad business practices.

allowing mgreg from petiteteenager.com to link to stolen content, pics, and mp3's and hiding behind dmca loopholes.

edit : not just linking to, but hosting as well.

I stopped reading after page two. It became painfully obvious this whole "good companies list" is just clever advertising.

This thread is spam.

Actually the "good companies list" are the companies willing to take a stand and become part of this movement. If that results in increased business for their companies, good for them. They deserve support for having the balls to openly take a stand against those who are encouraging the growth of this problem.

Not clever advertising, but damn good marketing. As an affiliate, it would be nice to do business with companies that aren't going to allow disloyal competition, allowing certain affiliates or sites to generate sales using methods that would get me thrown out of the program. I would like to work with programs that are looking out for me, the affiliate, rather than looking out for only themselves and the amount of cash they have on hand to buy lap dances and beer for their "bros" at the next show.

It's not advertising. It's a marketing difference that is truly important.

I agree with you 100%

PS: can someone please email me a list of these "tube sites " so i can go through and make sure we are not on them. I dont care to make a penny from these thieving bastards. [email protected]

This part of your quote was spot on. :thumbsup

Kudos to you for saying it, and kudos to AIREK for taking the risks for bringing up such a touchy subject.

Since you have been in the content reviewer seat since the beginning... You should have as much content knowledge as I do being in the adult biz for so long... This was a literally a 5 min sweep of your site preformed by lil ol me :winkwink:

Bang Bros - No ref link and even watermarked to a non Bang Bros freesite thats of course not available :thumbsup
http://video.xtube.com/watch.php?cv=1&idx=2&from=&v=9907JcXUuQR&cl=fKQkdd 8OX1Q&a=200707261640_ViLLg&b=2ZBhXz8EPfv&s=S&geo_c ountrycode=&geo_latitude=&geo_longitude=&sstr=lrf| |||F|500r3sr0o4o64rop373345753n8s82q1

Bang Bros - No ref link and even watermarked to a non Bang Bros freesite thats of course not available :thumbsup
http://video.xtube.com/watch.php?cv=1&idx=2&from=&v=99xjg8tSO3c&cl=0994WQ dnhuP&a=200707121410_aIRel&b=2PV0sO8rWxf&s=B&geo_c ountrycode=&geo_latitude=&geo_longitude=&sstr=lrf| |||O|500r3sr0o4o64rop373345753n8s82q1

YET AGAIN - Bang Bros - No ref link and even watermarked to a non Bang Bros freesite that's of course not available :thumbsup
http://video.xtube.com/watch.php?cv=1&idx=2&from=&v=99784wFIr9F&cl=yvOGDN k7WEM&a=200706081255_qSitH&b=2kBAfhRtcwb&s=B&geo_c ountrycode=&geo_latitude=&geo_longitude=&sstr=lrf| |||O|500r3sr0o4o64rop373345753n8s82q1

This is actually MY content... Watermarked properly but the ref is broken (on the XTUBE side - click the banner if you can even read it pfffff) - Oh the hits are flowing from these xtube pages buahahaha - At least someone can cut and paste the correct link (if they see it in the description) :thumbsup
http://video.xtube.com/watch.php?cv=1&idx=2&from=&v=98e6AY2XhXa&cl=XqoeSN YgQAs&a=200707261640_fXsGw&b=2lrMDaNcuKY&s=B&geo_c ountrycode=&geo_latitude=&geo_longitude=&sstr=lrf| |||O|500r3sr0o4o64rop373345753n8s82q1

http://video.xtube.com/watch.php?cv=0&idx=2&from=&v=995ddkeUgiU&cl=GrxfjP 14DLI&a=200707261640_ViLLg&b=2M63rbQeZ6H&s=B&geo_c ountrycode=&geo_latitude=&geo_longitude=&sstr=lrf| |||O|500r3sr0o4o64rop373345753n8s82q1

http://video.xtube.com/watch.php?cv=1&idx=3&from=&v=99AKLZYXjle&cl=CohM0q VcyrR&a=200707261640_ViLLg&b=32UpAQbXETG&s=B&geo_c ountrycode=&geo_latitude=&geo_longitude=&sstr=lrf| |||O|500r3sr0o4o64rop373345753n8s82q1


If your company can't police its own site... (must bite toungue) I just helped you with the above infringing links - PAY ME for my 5 min of surfing your site. Maybe I'll spend an hour tonight and post a grocery list... Well probably not - IT'S YOUR JOB.

I don't think that XTube is comprised entirely of ripped off content... But its there - Take 5 min and look like I did :)

K done :upsidedow

I really appreciate the efforts your making in trying to stamp out piracy.
Keep up the good work. :thumbsup

Great thread A1R3K:thumbsup maybe we should fly this good and bad companies list in our sigs so they get more exposure:2 cents:

thats incorrect man.

i'm not interested in having anyone sign up to our program. not now anyhow.

this is a call to action as well as the thread that calls for an industry round table.

shit i may get run out of the industry for this so its actually a risk i'm taking personally.

:2 cents:

that makes a lot of sense. they advertise and help fund sites that only exist because of your stolen content, and we can sue them but we add them to a "bad list" and they going to sue us???? :upsidedow

blah vlah blahh vlahhh does that sound good to you too ?


If a site's whole model is for people to upload stolen content to it, and if the stolen content was removed the site would cease to exist, and this site makes money from upsells and advertisements, then the site is just as bad as the people posting the stolen content.

Try to justify it all you want but there is no other way to cut it.

Fleshlight is FULL os shitttttttttttttttttttttt

Hey man, your not alone on this. Your cred has gone way up with me. Not that anyone cares who I am. Most people think I have to have a sig to be taken serious.

People wonder why I don't fly my sigs on gfy, well..... its because of politics, and the repercussions that come from speaking your mind and being honest. You never know when comments, silly or serious, can and will get taken out of context, and you piss off a sponsor, affiliate, or anyone else for that matter.

Fleshjosh spews more shit out of his mouth than my toilet bowl

nice post , isnt Fleshjosh a fucking moron?

This fucknut and FLESHJosh should fucking move to africa and dissapear

you sound like sticky more and more every day. For someone who is a rep of a company who I am sure is affected by stolen content (or at least one of the previous 10 other companies you worked for) you think you would be a little more in favor of what these companies are trying to do to protect themselves.

You say " people to point fingers and take business away from multi- million dollar companies ", these "multi-million dollar companies" you speak of are helping to fund sites that take more money then that from the companies who are posting here.

Where is Flesh josh that fucking moron?

No free drinks or Mr Limpys will save your ass now.

Might as well go to monster.com and send your resume off

FleshDouche is at his psychic now asking for advice

you lying sack of horseshit

most people know that i'm as genuine as i can be. when talking about the issues i don't use fake nicks, i say it in my own voice just as i would in public. shit i may be wrong, but i don't really think so in this sense. i will probably gain some enemies. thats cool. to me it doesn't matter what the heck is in your sig, it matters what you write. i think i might ditch my sig for a while. thats how much it means to me. if you notice theres no cash program in there, just a link to a splashpage that i spray painted the new version of our network on as coming soon.

when i spam, people know, i do it on purpose.

if i was wrong on this i would have been owned off the board already. the industry is just as P.O.d about this as we are.

:thumbsup


keep on postin :)

sometimes you have to get messy to clean up filth.

how did your phone call go with the person who was advertising fleshlight ? :1orglaugh

i got my bro card revoked. :(

A1R3K I'm adding you to my icq contact list

Hell, if this is about marketing and more webmasters.. http://www.evilgeniuscash.com/ does NOT support torrent, or any stolen content sites! Weeeeee I made the good list... Now I'm on the wagon!

its not but the support is appreciated.

thank you.

True but the good feeling it gives you to be on the right side of the issue, to not be fucking everyone else and destroying the industry that you make really good money from.... is worth a lot more then being in the bro club or any popularity contest / dick sucking parties.

fake nic or not.

I have house, car, and health insurance payments, not too mention, the costs of running and owning a business, and still have money to eat, and afford to stay afloat.

Every penny I lose because I might oust a well known hosting company who is buddies with a well known sponsor or affiliate I do business with, hurts.

Im not a huge company with a shitload of employees, or money to burn because Im involved in something shady like zango, torrents, or stolen content.

heres something to consider....
I was just curious if shanesworld was hosting with mojohost, so i checked networksolutions and sure nuff..... hosted on mojohost.

I appreciate what your doing, but I hope you guys look into some of the shady practices Ive raised about them. Not trying to get on your badside, but this is exactly what Im talking about. Its not hard find something that you can disagree with someone on.

I haven't read the entire thread, but I have one company to add to the "bad business" list:

SERVAGE

Airek - you said "theft is theft" and so it applies to webhosts just the same. Servage sucks is that webhosting company that lures unaware webmasters into hosting with them by offering high bandwidth programs at a low cost. What webmasters do NOT know, is that if their traffic manages to grow to reach about 1% of the bandwidth they are entitled to, their account will be suspended, with all the sites and their traffic REDIRECTED to servage sucks. This is how Servage sucks grows their site - they steal you hard earned traffic. As soon as you reach the point at which it is worth their while, they will suspend your account and steal all your traffic.

theft is a theft - the theft of traffic performed by Servage is one of those that is extremely coward. It's a blow below your waste, leaving you unprepared and helpless, without warning using some random (high resources use" warning. If you are a hardworking webmasters who invested a lot of time and money building traffic to your site, when the day comes for you to harvest, you will be left empty handed and servage sucks will collect for your efforts. However for you it not only means that they got what should be yours, for you it also means that all you have strived for is now gone. Your website, your traffic - all lost. Gone. You have to start from scratch...

Servage is a dangerous company and I would like to appeal to all webmasters to join forces and stop them from hurting any more innocent people's business.

The first one to take AFF on, they are into so much shit, a lawyer could pick and choose which pile of crap he would like to go after first.

You will survive, the cream always floats to the top ;)

With all of the negativity in this thread about tube-style sites,
I just want to clarify, fuckinhorny.com is a legal solution for webmasters
that want to promote using tube-style flash videos.
Please don't confuse us with the tube-style sites that allow user uploads.
We do NOT allow user uploads - we have no DMCA issues!

We only use 2257 compliant sponsors
We only use sponsor provided videos
All videos have a clickable ad for the sponsor at the end of the video
We embed your affiliate ID into the videos

Check us out at fuckinhorny.com
Sponsors that want to add their videos to the system contact me
helix at fuckinhorny.com

I wouldnt promote Alley Bucks if it was the last sponsor on the net. You strike me as someone who has ZERO knowledge of the industry.

ZZZIINGGGGG!!!

I support
 

add sexsearch and mrsexbankroll to the shit list.

Brazzers.com has joined the fight against content theft. We have already sent out a few cease and desist
letters to a few of these sites and some of our content has been removed.

Thanks Airek for this thread, we are willing and able to help in any way we can :thumbsup

we host with mojo.

you're not on my bad side. i don't have a bad side.

i'm about the fairest person there is. thats normally what gets me into problems, i trust everyone until i get fucked over.

what shady practices do you speak of, i havent seen it yet. link please?

you guys got anyone in l.a. that can attend the roundtable?

you guys shoot a TON of content. i would like to see ya there.

if possible. not sure logistically where you are.

Good list.. Naked hosting. The things these ladies (Kacy) and gents have done for us is damn well staggering. Love them. FAR and above the call of duty.

Good to see all of this come out I hope threads like this don't just get buried and some responsibility is finally taken :thumbsup

Here is my free 2 cents worth...

I just read all 5 pages of this. 3 of the pages were nothing more than bashing each other and a total waste. If your gonna bash each other, start your own thread. This thread was started with a damn good idea this industry needs.

I agree with everyone else that their needs to be some way to investigate who goes on the good or bad list. If not, then this is going to become a joke. If you want to put someone on the shit list, you must provide 100% proof to backup your claim.

I think their should be a vote on who goes on each list. Naturally, their would need to be safe guards in place so the ballot box doesn't get stuffed. I also think the 'voting' can only be done by webmasters. We deal with these companies daily. Only we know who is good and bad. If surfers are involved, then their will be abuse to this process.

Anyway, this is a good idea. I hope it happens.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

strike 3....

Goodbye

1. DouchbagCash
2. SloreCash
3. CASHCASH
4. MoneyCash
5. Cash4Cash
6. BucksCash
7. MoneyBucks
8. BucksMoneyCash
9. MoneyMoneyCash

and of course the highly original:

10. Cashcashbucksmoneycash

Oh snap!



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I'm drunk. Anyways...

There is really no difference between saying bull crap, and bull shit. what's crap? It's shit. And shit is crap.

When you're saying bullcrap, bullboulders, bulllogs, you mean bullshit.

All I'm trying to say is if you're trying to stop cursing, try to stop thinking that way in general. Not just replace the word with something that means the same thing.

:thumbsup

oh btw gofuckyourself

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yah its tough. sometimes i just snap and its all downhill.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

thanks

So is there a list ? or like so much of GFY do i have to READ ALL THE BS TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS ANYTHING worth reading in this thread...?



Can i get a summary...is there a BAD list YET....