Question for team Anti-Torrent ...

[WarChild]

Do you guys think you'll be more or less successfuli with your new campaign against torrent sites than you were against Guba and Zango?

Let's face it, you could hardly be less successful, really.

[»Rob Content«]

I am not sure what exactly you are trying to say. I know dozens of webmasters who stopped using certain programs that were affiliated or are still affiliated with Zango.

I have personally hurt a few tube and torrent type sites, and I will be taking a few more out this week.

How is causing a site to lose tens of thousands of dollars not successful??

[tony286]

it just started and if you do any thing in adult this effects you also .So why be down on it?

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

I am not sure what exactly you are trying to say. I know dozens of webmasters who stopped using certain programs that were affiliated or are still affiliated with Zango.

I have personally hurt a few tube and torrent type sites, and I will be taking a few more out this week.

How is causing a site to lose tens of thousands of dollars not successful??

$10's of thousands of dollars by who's measuring stick? You just picked that number out of the air, didn't you?

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by tony404

it just started and if you do any thing in adult this effects you also .So why be down on it?

I'm not down on it, I think it's funny to watch little fish struggle against the current. Swim guys, swim!

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by WarChild

$10's of thousands of dollars by who's measuring stick? You just picked that number out of the air, didn't you?

No I did not, when you know how many memberships a site is doing daily, and then you cut off their processing and their main source of income, it's quite easy to figure out.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

No I did not, when you know how many memberships a site is doing daily, and then you cut off their processing and their main source of income, it's quite easy to figure out.

Yo go, girl! Pirate Bay next, right?

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Yo go, girl! Pirate Bay next, right?

I don't really have time to debate with someone who obviously suffers from some form of idiocy.

If you support content theft, stealing from webmasters, stealing joins, stealing content, trafficking of CP, rape, incest content, then I really don't have any reason to debate with you.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

I don't really have time to debate with someone who obviously suffers from some form of idiocy.

If you support content theft, stealing from webmasters, stealing joins, stealing content, trafficking of CP, rape, incest content, then I really don't have any reason to debate with you.

I don't support it, I'm just making the point that you're going to be as ineffectual at stopping torrents and tubes as Airek was at stopping Guba and Zango.

Surely you must be against genocide and starvation too, right? Next on the agenda: fix Darfur!

[webgurl]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Yo go, girl! Pirate Bay next, right?

Microsoft couldn't do it but V.G Content from GFY can

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by webgurl

Microsoft couldn't do it but V.G Content from GFY can

Microsoft are noobs. Like they would of had a chance... pfft

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by webgurl

Microsoft couldn't do it but V.G Content from GFY can

Don't forget he has the help of a 5'0 DJ fresh off a stunning win in a crusade against Guba. Well, maybe not stunning and maybe not a win but he stopped going on and on about it so surely something must've happened, right?

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Don't forget he has the help of a 5'0 DJ fresh off a stunning win in a crusade against Guba. Well, maybe not stunning and maybe not a win but he stopped going on and on about it so surely something must've happened, right?

Hey Daymon, how's it going? How go your "teenie" TGPs? Business good? Go with the flow dude, your in Costa Rica, so why not, right?

The attacks usually come from the biggest offenders.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Hey Daymon, how's it going? How go your "teenie" TGPs? Business good? Go with the flow dude, your in Costa Rica, so why not, right?

The attacks usually come from the biggest offenders.

Wow, you're, umm behind the times. Let me help you update your file.

Becareful saying my name outloud. Say it three times in a row and I appear! Beetlejuicing all up in your shit, yo.

Currently not running any TGPs. I believe the index of the site you're eluding to being catering to pedos has an index that says "this is index.".

I'm back in Canada for the time being.

Attack? I'm not attacking you, I'm standing on the side mocking you. It's completely different. No doubt subtle difference is a tough concept for you though.

So, you're part of team impotent too, right? Awesome! You guys are the Aqua Teen Hungerforce of the adult industry and we're all supporting you. Go get 'em, tiger!

[L0stMind]

well, sadly he is pretty bang on.

As much as I (and probably the vast majority of people) don't support content theft, going after torrent sites is pretty useless. If RIAA and such with all their backing couldn't win, how can the adult community?

Why is this subject popping up on every board?

[stev0]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm back in Canada for the time being.

Completely unrelated topic... but i'll throw this out there incase you know.

How is the real estate market in costa rica if one was looking into buying a vacation property? Good investment, or are the prices pretty inflated already?

And is there any good areas on the caribbean coast with water/internet/etc.. and easy access to airport?

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I don't support it, I'm just making the point that you're going to be as ineffectual at stopping torrents and tubes as Airek was at stopping Guba and Zango.

Surely you must be against genocide and starvation too, right? Next on the agenda: fix Darfur!

You can support torrents and CP and whatever else you like. I've already shut down and cut off the billing from a few places in a week's time. As I said I have no time for a debate with an idiot.

[RawAlex]

Warchild, one of the things I have learned is the people standing on the sides mocking any efforts are usually the ones profiting the most from the fucked up situation that the business finds itself in. Enjoy making money from it.

Lostmind, one of the things that the RIAA didn't have going for it was a clear understanding of the problem and implications before they started taking action. They went though many long and complicated channels that just don't work. They were often defeated by simple offshore blinds and less than cooperative legal jurisdictions. They played all sorts of games with the goal of having their content removed. What they didn't realize is that torrent sites (and tubes, fake file hosts, and the like) are snakes... if you cut off the tail, they grow another one and keep going.

The funniest part so far has been finding that some of the biggest posters on GFY have their greasy little fingers stuck in the torrent pie. Sad, really.

My feeling is threads like this are mostly complaints from the weekend warriors complaining that they might not be able to download pr0n when they are in their dorms for the next semester.

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by webgurl

Microsoft couldn't do it but V.G Content from GFY can

So since you don't care I can toss all of your content on tube sites and use it to promote something else? Great thanks for the support.

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Microsoft are noobs. Like they would of had a chance... pfft

Don't you have a myspace profile to create?

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

Don't you have a myspace profile to create?

So Im guessing it was you that got my old one deleted? Are you going into 8th or 9th grade this year?

How utterly pathetic must you be? I should be at 500 friends or more by the end of the day today thanks for asking. Pathetic utterly pathetic. lol

So you are going to take down something the Riaa the Mpaa and Microsoft didnt even put a dent in by taking down their myspace profile? Is that it? what a loser..

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

So Im guessing it was you that got my old one deleted? Are you going into 8th or 9th grade this year?

How utterly pathetic must you be? I should be at 500 friends or more by the end of the day today thanks for asking. Pathetic utterly pathetic. lol

So you are going to take down something the Riaa the Mpaa and Microsoft didnt even put a dent in by taking down their myspace profile? Is that it? what a loser..

No I did not do it, I found it funny is all.

I'm glad you have 500 friends on myspace, I bet the ladies are really impressed..

And you ask what grade i'm in, and you're on an adult message board bragging about how many myspace friends you have.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Warchild, one of the things I have learned is the people standing on the sides mocking any efforts are usually the ones profiting the most from the fucked up situation that the business finds itself in. Enjoy making money from it.

Lostmind, one of the things that the RIAA didn't have going for it was a clear understanding of the problem and implications before they started taking action. They went though many long and complicated channels that just don't work. They were often defeated by simple offshore blinds and less than cooperative legal jurisdictions. They played all sorts of games with the goal of having their content removed. What they didn't realize is that torrent sites (and tubes, fake file hosts, and the like) are snakes... if you cut off the tail, they grow another one and keep going.

The funniest part so far has been finding that some of the biggest posters on GFY have their greasy little fingers stuck in the torrent pie. Sad, really.

My feeling is threads like this are mostly complaints from the weekend warriors complaining that they might not be able to download pr0n when they are in their dorms for the next semester.

If I was making money off of torrent sites, I'd flat out admit it. I'm not.

I actually agree that content producers are getting shafted and I'm not trying to argue your underlying cause. You're probably right.

Being right does't always cut it though. Witness MP3, for instance. The nature of the Internet makes it impossible for a group of US content producers to stop this train though.

[L0stMind]

Hey Alex... so how will you guys stop torrent sites? Cutting them off from sponsor money? Going after their hosting? Always going to be offshore hosts willing to take their money and always going to be another sponsor wanting the sales...

VG.Content - cool that you are trying to do something. Torrent sites I don't think you can win at. there are definitely some content thieves out there that you can win at and I'm glad you are going after them (tube sites and forums etc.) Torrent sites though? IMO good luck. As a side note though... just because someone isn't beside you swinging a sword around doesn't mean they are against you either.

You guys are absolutely right in your cause, but you won't win against the torrent sites. JMHO.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

No I did not do it, I found it funny is all.

I'm glad you have 500 friends on myspace, I bet the ladies are really impressed..

And you ask what grade i'm in, and you're on an adult message board bragging about how many myspace friends you have.

Funny you and your buddy Tampa Toker were the first to point it out, and bring it up a lot. Afraid to look pathetic? Prediction... Torrent and tube sites only get bigger. You show me one example of p2p being stopped. EVER. And AGAIN what do you think is going to happen when broadband upload speeds increase? In less than 5 years people will be sending dvd sized files via instant messengers back and forth. So EVEN if you stopped torrent files and all p2p trading will never stop. The underlying problem is what needs to be worked on.


Do you understand the underlying problem?

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by L0stMind

Hey Alex... so how will you guys stop torrent sites? Cutting them off from sponsor money? Going after their hosting? Always going to be offshore hosts willing to take their money and always going to be another sponsor wanting the sales...

VG.Content - cool that you are trying to do something. Torrent sites I don't think you can win at. there are definitely some content thieves out there that you can win at and I'm glad you are going after them (tube sites and forums etc.) Torrent sites though? IMO good luck. As a side note though... just because someone isn't beside you swinging a sword around doesn't mean they are against you either.

Bust my balls and I bust yours, it's quite simple.

I'm not planning to take torrent sites off the net, I know it's not really possible.

I do know for fact that people who are ripped off on torrent sites can in fact make money from being stolen from. It's not always about taking something offline, sometimes it's about compensation.

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Funny you and your buddy Tampa Toker were the first to point it out, and bring it up a lot. Afraid to look pathetic? Prediction... Torrent and tube sites only get bigger. You show me one example of p2p being stopped. EVER. And AGAIN what do you think is going to happen when broadband upload speeds increase? In less than 5 years people will be sending dvd sized files via instant messengers back and forth. So EVEN if you stopped torrent files and all p2p trading will never stop. The underlying problem is what needs to be worked on.


Do you understand the underlying problem?

Look in a mirror, most people here find you pathetic. Don't you have cameras to buy people?

one p2p stopped ever?

http://news.com.com/Hollywood+hails+...3-6041881.html
http://news.com.com/Supercharged+col...3-5952060.html
edonkey.com go look fucko


So you are saying that content theft is only going to get bigger, and your solution is to open an affiliate program... Good business model.

[L0stMind]

So you aren't trying to take down torrent sites, you are trying to get them to donate money to the owners of the content they are facilitating theft from? Help me understand man.

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by L0stMind

So you aren't trying to take down torrent sites, you are trying to get them to donate money to the owners of the content they are facilitating theft from? Help me understand man.

LOL yeah that would be highly intelligent of me, to post our plans on a public message board filled with torrent supporters lol

Sorry no thanks

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

Look in a mirror, most people here find you pathetic. Don't you have cameras to buy people?

one p2p stopped ever?

http://news.com.com/Hollywood+hails+...3-6041881.html
http://news.com.com/Supercharged+col...3-5952060.html
edonkey.com go look fucko


So you are saying that content theft is only going to get bigger, and your solution is to open an affiliate program... Good business model.

As expected you are a moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDonkey_network the same network still exists. Different clients replaced emule. Silly...

[Phoenix]

warchild comes in with a good thread.
i agree with you..its funny

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

As expected you are a moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDonkey_network the same network still exists. Different clients replaced emule. Silly...

Main article: eDonkey2000

On September 13, 2006, MetaMachine Inc., the developer of the eDonkey2000 client, agreed to pay $30 million to avoid potential copyright infringement lawsuits brought by the RIAA. In accordance with the agreement, eDonkey is to discontinue distribution of their software as well as to take measures to prevent the use of previous copies of their software for file sharing. The RIAA agreement has likely had little impact on the eD2k network as a whole; eMule had been the dominant client on the network since 2002, and it already represented over 90% of the network at the time of the agreement.[2] eDonkey was also outnumbered by aMule and Shareaza, the second- and third-ranked eD2k clients in terms of usage. The eDonkey client software that was currently available no longer works as a hard-coded check to the eDonkey2000 web site has been placed in the latest and last version of eDonkey in preparation for implementation of the agreement. Users that visit the eDonkey website, intentionally, or by simply using the latest eDonkey client, are greeted by an anti-file sharing advertisement, which includes legal and technical claims frequently made by the RIAA: "The eDonkey2000 Network [sic] is no longer available. If you steal music or movies, you are breaking the law.... You are not anonymous... Your IP address... has been logged." The automatic check to the official eDonkey2000 client's website can be disabled by assigning www.edonkey2000.com to an incorrect IP address such as 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file.

[L0stMind]

Ok VG, I'll just sit back and wait for you to win then.

Dunno how you are gaining support when you are just busy acting cool...

Personally, I'd love to help out but I don't see anything that makes sense so I won't bother.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

Main article: eDonkey2000

On September 13, 2006, MetaMachine Inc., the developer of the eDonkey2000 client, agreed to pay $30 million to avoid potential copyright infringement lawsuits brought by the RIAA. In accordance with the agreement, eDonkey is to discontinue distribution of their software as well as to take measures to prevent the use of previous copies of their software for file sharing. The RIAA agreement has likely had little impact on the eD2k network as a whole; eMule had been the dominant client on the network since 2002, and it already represented over 90% of the network at the time of the agreement.[2] eDonkey was also outnumbered by aMule and Shareaza, the second- and third-ranked eD2k clients in terms of usage. The eDonkey client software that was currently available no longer works as a hard-coded check to the eDonkey2000 web site has been placed in the latest and last version of eDonkey in preparation for implementation of the agreement. Users that visit the eDonkey website, intentionally, or by simply using the latest eDonkey client, are greeted by an anti-file sharing advertisement, which includes legal and technical claims frequently made by the RIAA: "The eDonkey2000 Network [sic] is no longer available. If you steal music or movies, you are breaking the law.... You are not anonymous... Your IP address... has been logged." The automatic check to the official eDonkey2000 client's website can be disabled by assigning www.edonkey2000.com to an incorrect IP address such as 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file.

ya like I SAID the network is still up and running. Files are STILL being traded. 1 company that was PART of the network shut down. You can STILL use their software even by changing a simple entry in your hosts file. Sheesh.

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by L0stMind

Ok VG, I'll just sit back and wait for you to win then.

Dunno how you are gaining support when you are just busy acting cool...

Personally, I'd love to help out but I don't see anything that makes sense so I won't bother.

Busy acting cool lol ok, you got me I'm sure you can give a nice virtual hi 5 to your icq friends.

People who want to help and take action are, others spew bullshit on GFY. If someone is serious they can e mail, icq me and discuss it more, like many have done. I'm not going to break shit down on GFY for the world to see, that is just moronic to say the least.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I don't support it, I'm just making the point that you're going to be as ineffectual at stopping torrents and tubes as Airek was at stopping Guba and Zango.

Surely you must be against genocide and starvation too, right? Next on the agenda: fix Darfur!

Airek= only succeeded in being a voice to get the guba skin down. - fact.

never came back did it?

Airek = never had anything to do with zango. fact.

Airek = has evertything to do outside of gfy with things involving skin video.

don't get your panties in a bunch, not everything is for gfy consumption.

if you can't see or don't want to see the positive effects of the uproar here then i don't know what to tell ya. its not my place to prove anything to anyone.

just wanted to clear that up for everyone.

toodles.

time to go to the gym. bye bye.

[»Rob Content«]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

ya like I SAID the network is still up and running. Files are STILL being traded. 1 company that was PART of the network shut down. You can STILL use their software even by changing a simple entry in your hosts file. Sheesh.

You have proven repeated times to be one of the bigger idiots on GFY. I guess taking out tube sites already is just a joke for you. People like you the bullshit catches up, I just hope you are ready for it.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

You have proven repeated times to be one of the bigger idiots on GFY. I guess taking out tube sites already is just a joke for you. People like you the bullshit catches up, I just hope you are ready for it.

Hmm I was thinking the same thing about you. Maybe reality and gfy reality are two utterly different things...

[RawAlex]

This message is hidden because stickyfingerz is on your ignore list.

The best part of any thread.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

This message is hidden because stickyfingerz is on your ignore list.

The best part of any thread.

Good the less time you spend reading my threads the more time you have to work on your ultra cool sxxy.com site.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Good the less time you spend reading my threads the more time you have to work on your ultra cool sxxy.com site.

Everytime I think people are exaggerating about your stupidity levels rising you go and prove them right.

Why hasn't anyone remininded people reading this thread that sticky is a thief? I think it needs to be pointed out every time he makes a post.

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[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

You have proven repeated times to be one of the bigger idiots on GFY. I guess taking out tube sites already is just a joke for you. People like you the bullshit catches up, I just hope you are ready for it.

I'm still trying to figure out whom you have me confused with. You mentioned me having worked for sexsearch or orgasmic or some thing ....

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[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Everytime I think people are exaggerating about your stupidity levels rising you go and prove them right.

Why hasn't anyone remininded people reading this thread that sticky is a thief? I think it needs to be pointed out every time he makes a post.

...

Yup you are right sxxy.com is an amazing site. Must make a shit load of money a month...

http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...%2F%2Fsxxy.com

Who are these "people" you speak of? Trolls on gfy?

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yup you are right sxxy.com is an amazing site. Must make a shit load of money a month...

http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...%2F%2Fsxxy.com

Who are these "people" you speak of? Trolls on gfy?

What has that site got to do with you being a total arse? Just because people talk about you they're trolls? Not sure how you come to that conclusion but be that as it is, you're still a thief that got a reprieve by buying some guy a camera.

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[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

What has that site got to do with you being a total arse? Just because people talk about you they're trolls? Not sure how you come to that conclusion but be that as it is, you're still a thief that got a reprieve by buying some guy a camera.

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Funny I stole from him and yet Im running more of his business now than I was before. Yup brilliant. Keep repeating what you learned from the trolls. If you want to know the truth feel free to hit me up directly and chat on icq.

[tony286]

Man I'm sure glad Larry Flynt didnt have the same its impossible loser attitude when fighting the government that im reading here. We would all be working shitty day jobs.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by tony404

Man I'm sure glad Larry Flynt didnt have the same its impossible loser attitude when fighting the government that im reading here. We would all be working shitty day jobs.

Yes because it's really the same thing after all.

[CDSmith]

Is it better to do nothing like some others do?

Warchild, I had no idea you held such a defeatist attitude. Pointing a finger and scoffing and snickering at the noble efforts of others has never been known as taking the smart path.

I'd rather talk about how we can all help further the cause rather than ridicule it.

[RawAlex]

Sticky, I don't bother to read your posts, but seeing you quoted by others has to make me laugh. Actually sxxy.com is a pretty crap old site, nothing done to it in ages, but the intent of putting it my sig here is to see what if any effect is has on google and such. Nothing more. Oh yeah, there isn't any stolen content on the front page, which I suspect is more than you can say for more of your shit.

CdSmith, you are corrent, in my opinion. If people don't think what is going on will help, they are invited to stick their heads back in the sand and enjoy the view. Meanwhile a few people and a larger number of content providers over time will work to try to slow and possibly reverse the fast decline on online adult.

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Becareful saying my name outloud. Say it three times in a row and I appear! Beetlejuicing all up in your shit, yo.

oh, yeah, keyword warrior