Is 15 scenes enough to start a paysite?

[Burridge]

what do you think?

[notoldschool]

Sure its enough as long as you plan on updating soon and often. if its part of a network then it its a definate yes.

[Serendipity]

Originally Posted by Burridge

what do you think?

Not really, in today's market i would look for something like 20-30 with weekly updates and putting some thought into those first few shot into something new ie. something no one has done. (like the dare ring)

just my 2 cents..

[Burridge]

mhmmmm..

[MaDalton]

i've seen sites with 6 scenes each - but they were a network and updated regularly. if you have just one site with 15 scenes and don't plan to update don't count on a good members retention

[Dirty Dane]

Be sure to run a pps program ;)

[Burridge]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i've seen sites with 6 scenes each - but they were a network and updated regularly. if you have just one site with 15 scenes and don't plan to update don't count on a good members retention

Yeah I'd update it once a week...

[beemk]

15 to use to launch yes, you will need many more for updates. you dont want to have to rely on shooting a new scene every week.

[StuartD]

If you charge $5.99 a month for the membership....

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Burridge

Yeah I'd update it once a week...

i've seen it work - with less than 15 scenes. those sites have now more than 60 or 70 scenes each - but they started also with 6 each and are updated weekly (not the ones i've been talking about in my first post)

[Burridge]

Originally Posted by beemk

15 to use to launch yes, you will need many more for updates. you dont want to have to rely on shooting a new scene every week.

well the content won't be exclusive...i just wanna make my a paysite to send my teen/hardcore traffic to....but i don't have the money or time to go shoot exclusive yet....would that be futile?

[Casa Nova]

You'd have to charge not so much, and be updating regularly... if you wanna fill upyour site with content just so the member doesnt get bored before you update check out: ContentBlowout.com

& if you ever wanna get some DVD licenses to use on your site go to [www.thecontentstore.com]TheContentStore.com[/url] feel free to icq me.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

you'd be amazed how many sites have less than that and haven't updated in months, years, or ever. Not that I'm encouraging that.

[Snake Doctor]

The answer is it depends.....on alot of variables.

Bangbus opened with 4 scenes

[KimJI]

If its Lindsay Lohan, sure. They made the Paris Hilton site with only one Scene, so everything is possible

[Casa Nova]

my mistake lol TheContentStore.com

[rapmaster]

Originally Posted by Burridge

well the content won't be exclusive...i just wanna make my a paysite to send my teen/hardcore traffic to....but i don't have the money or time to go shoot exclusive yet....would that be futile?

15 NON exclusive scenes is not nearly enough IMO. I'd be really pissed if I paid for this.

Maybe try joining an AVS/AVN or something.

some sites may have 15 long scenes but the stuff is hot, innovative, unique... and not only exclusive, but custom and reality like

an example that comes to my head is www.darering.com they rake it up with like less than 15 movies but it's high quality and people seem to love it

[pussyluver]

Consider AVS

[OTerror]

I've seen sites with way less scenes but 15 could be a good starting point if you have more stuff in the works.

[minniesoporno]

You can only have that many scences if you play on updating often, and have something that keeps those ... lol suckers in, if you don't plan on updating often then I say 30 to start with and update every 2 weeks.

and with this business 2 weeks is enough time for them members to go some where else.

[StarkReality]

It totally depends on your niche, if it's something rare or unusual, 15 scenes are well enough and members will stay and patiently wait for updates.

If it's "mainstream porn", I'd start with the 15 scenes and update often, begin building in house traffic. Before you start an affiliate program or invest big in marketing, your members area should already be MUCH bigger. Nothing bad with trying, testing with your own traffic first.

[Secksy]

Originally Posted by StarkReality

It totally depends on your niche, if it's something rare or unusual, 15 scenes are well enough and members will stay and patiently wait for updates.

If it's "mainstream porn", I'd start with the 15 scenes and update often, begin building in house traffic. Before you start an affiliate program or invest big in marketing, your members area should already be MUCH bigger. Nothing bad with trying, testing with your own traffic first.

best post in the thread. What is considered a scene? Lengthwise...

[prezzz]

And obviously if you'd start with 15 make sure to give the surfers some previews of future updates as teasers, otherwise you most likely won't see them rebill...

[Mr. Cool Ice]

YES you can and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Some of the top sites opened with less than that.

Having said that, you NEED to update and it would be better if you were part of a network with more content.

[HouseHead]

Originally Posted by beemk

15 to use to launch yes, you will need many more for updates. you dont want to have to rely on shooting a new scene every week.

fuckin a right donkey.

[FakeNick]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

The answer is it depends.....on alot of variables.

Bangbus opened with 4 scenes

B-I-N-G-O

most webmasters dont have a fucking clue they want to give away as much as possible for as littel as possible and stillg et paid as much as possible for doing it

fuck them all

[MandyBlake]

i think it all depends on what kind of porn it is. i started my newest site with 4. but there was nothing like it out there so it was cool.

[beemk]

Originally Posted by Burridge

well the content won't be exclusive...i just wanna make my a paysite to send my teen/hardcore traffic to....but i don't have the money or time to go shoot exclusive yet....would that be futile?

why waste your traffic then? i would just send it somewhere else. exploitedteens.com is pretty much guranteed to convert teen hardcore traffic. theres some other good teen sites out there too.

[sicone]

Not even close to enough.

[dav3]

Would you pay to join a site with only 15 scenes?

[jonesonyou]

Originally Posted by Serendipity

Not really, in today's market i would look for something like 20-30 with weekly updates and putting some thought into those first few shot into something new ie. something no one has done. (like the dare ring)

just my 2 cents..

What is dare ring?

[rapmaster]

Originally Posted by jonesonyou

What is dare ring?

www.darering.com

the owner posts here sometimes, a few months back said they were doing 100 sales a day - pretty new site I think. They do a reality style truth or dare thing. Genius idea.

anyway... if you're planning on putting up 15 crappy non exclusive scenes that are like 15-20 minutes each then you're ripping your members off. I'd say if it's not even exclusive it's a joke and you should definitely tell potential members what they're getting.

But maybe you have some primo stuff, I don't know.

[Star 69]

Nope 15 scenes is not enough to start a paysite. At list oyu need 25-30 scenes

[Dagwolf]

It totally depends.

[KrisKross]

Start it up with 15 scenes at a low price, like $14.99/month. Add a new scene per week, plus filler photo galleries (the kind you get for $10/set) 2-3 times a week. Once you're up to 30 scenes, boost the price up to $24.99/month.

[Burridge]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[Penny24Seven]

send your teen hardcore traffic to me, real teens, real hardcore and homemade too

[amateurcanada]

Do a ranomizing thing in your tour so people are fooled to think its more. 15 is enough with weekly updates minimum.

[potter]

no 54321

[pussyluver]

add a portal

[bDok]

It's enough to open a paysite. To retain a member that is a big question. Think about it though people are paying money to get a DVD that has only at times 5-6 scenes on it. If your looking to build members that rebill at a good % you need to update.

[nekrom]

15-20 sets, 25-30mins each is enough to open a paysite. Less sets if it's a super niche specific one, or one with no comp. Then you need more sets for updates, twice a week or whatever and you should be apples.

-N

[Burridge]

my plan remains intact so far....bump for more opinions

[Clark Miller]

Keep Shooting Content.

[Jace]

amazing responses in this thread from affiliates that have never opened their own site or been inside some major programs sites

I know of 5 major programs off the top of my head right now that have less than 15 videos in their members areas...but their tours kick ass and they convert like crazy.....some started with 5 videos and update maybe once or twice every 3 months

I would never do that personally, but it is WAY more common than you all think

I have been inside members areas that were 100% upsells....you basically get the surfer to PAY for more pay options...LOL

[Burridge]

Originally Posted by Jace

amazing responses in this thread from affiliates that have never opened their own site or been inside some major programs sites

I know of 5 major programs off the top of my head right now that have less than 15 videos in their members areas...but their tours kick ass and they convert like crazy.....some started with 5 videos and update maybe once or twice every 3 months

I would never do that personally, but it is WAY more common than you all think

I have been inside members areas that were 100% upsells....you basically get the surfer to PAY for more pay options...LOL

nice....i don't plan on being a dick about it...but that's pretty much what i want to do....have a great tour designed and use non exlcusive content...but ill update regularly and work on getting some exclusive in the mean time...