HuntingMoon Launches 10% Down No Credit Check Lease to Own! Also sold VergeMedia.com

[XPays]

http://HuntingMoon.com sold VergeMedia.com for $2000 this morning

&

all HuntingMoon domains now have lease to own options alongside the purchase options. 10% down Payment, less than 10% effective interest rate. Affiliate payout is recurring for the leases as well.


click for full-size sample of how it looks:

[XPays]

now you can launch a new site and put more of your buildout money towards development and traffic! get a hot brandable name for 10% down Now!

[Chris]

damn that is pretty cool
you guys got some hot domains

[XPays]

Originally Posted by Chris

damn that is pretty cool
you guys got some hot domains

thanks- we've never tried carrying the paper on the domains and are looking forward to getting some leases rolling. nice tushy in your sig btw and take it easy.

[XPays]

have any of you had experience leasing domains? we are curious about the success rate as far as what % of the leases reach completion.

[XPays]

we just sold another domain - will advise shortly

[alby_persignup]

not bad, goodluck!

[makefuckingmoney]

how big is domain capital and how much do they charge?

ive never leased or financed a domain but i have thought about it recently with some of the bigger selling goin on.

[Chris]

oy oy have a few guys i told about this already very interested

[XPays]

Originally Posted by alby_persignup

not bad, goodluck!

thank you for that- luck is the best thing to get

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

how big is domain capital and how much do they charge?

ive never leased or financed a domain but i have thought about it recently with some of the bigger selling goin on.

yeah, you are a great candidate for financing because of your long history and good cashflow. you can do it- the average we have seen for outside financing (not what HuntingMoon offers) is a minimum of 40% down from the buyer and then interest rates comparable to most business credit lines (not credit cards). you should go for it. rbc here in s.f. financed the marchex buy and other big deals. i have a guy for you there if you want a referral. montey or bari at moniker have resources as well.

[Secksy]

This is just a re-workaround from Latona's pawn biz. Great job maximizing an inferior idea! Get your 10%, keep the rights. If they dont pay who gives a fuck, you own the domain until day zero payday. I love it!

[XPays]

Originally Posted by Secksy

This is just a re-workaround from Latona's pawn biz. Great job maximizing an inferior idea! Get your 10%, keep the rights. If they dont pay who gives a fuck, you own the domain until day zero payday. I love it!

we are not loaning money for you on your own domain and buydomains/afternic started b4 him or us. offering leases on our domains takes the domain off the market and allows customers up to 3 years to payoff the domain. domains appreciate faster than the interest accrues. it's a win-win for everybody if the buyer pays off the lease. the wild card is the default rate.

[XPays]

Originally Posted by Chris

oy oy have a few guys i told about this already very interested

HuntingMoon is paying 10% on the affiliate program and we would be honored to send you a beta link. email if you are interested please

[J$tyle$]

Nice job, Evan - I know you've been patiently waiting to release this!

Congratz

[XPays]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Nice job, Evan - I know you've been patiently waiting to release this!

Congratz

Thanks - glad you are going to fla and they have the english muffins well-done but not burnt fyi.

[TampaToker]

Nice been waiting for this to launch will check it out now.....

[datatank]

Looking good, How far off is sailing moon?

[XPays]

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Nice been waiting for this to launch will check it out now.....

I remember your thread- hopefully the answer to the question in your old thread title will be "yes"

[XPays]

Originally Posted by datatank

Looking good, How far off is sailing moon?

yo - great sig

it's sooooo close- we figure before sept or early sept we'll be setting domains adrift. the affiliate program will pay 5% on sailingmoon sales and 10% on huntingmoon

[V_RocKs]

Insane idea... Makes Rick's idea look like Web 0.1

[J$tyle$]

Originally Posted by XPays

Thanks - glad you are going to fla and they have the english muffins well-done but not burnt fyi.

You ready for another one?

... and don't forget - I like mine with REAL BACON instead of Canadian

[JFK]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

You ready for another one?

... and don't forget - I like mine with REAL BACON instead of Canadian

is that Kosher ?

[Theo]

Originally Posted by JFK

is that Kosher ?

llllllloll

[will76]

Originally Posted by XPays

have any of you had experience leasing domains? we are curious about the success rate as far as what % of the leases reach completion.

Wouldn't it be in your favor to not have the person succeed?

What is the terms of the lease. If they are late 1 time for more then 30 days do they lose the domain and all money they put into it?

Its a great idea. You can't lose. You sell more domains now because people can afford them and you make 10% more with no risk to you. If the person builds the domain, gets it listed everywhere and then falls on hard times for whatever reason, you keep all the payments they made and get back a domain worth more money now then before.

I didn't read your site, so i am just making assumptions, please correct me if I am wrong.

[will76]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Insane idea... Makes Rick's idea look like Web 0.1

What was Rick's idea ?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by will76

What was Rick's idea ?

digipawn .com

[J$tyle$]

Originally Posted by will76

Wouldn't it be in your favor to not have the person succeed?

What is the terms of the lease. If they are late 1 time for more then 30 days do they lose the domain and all money they put into it?

Its a great idea. You can't lose. You sell more domains now because people can afford them and you make 10% more with no risk to you. If the person builds the domain, gets it listed everywhere and then falls on hard times for whatever reason, you keep all the payments they made and get back a domain worth more money now then before.

I didn't read your site, so i am just making assumptions, please correct me if I am wrong.

I'm not speaking for him but I agree that it is a great idea.

There's no way to tell what % of people will reneg on payments for whatever reason, but it's logical that they would lose whatever rights to the domain if they did.

If you lease a car or a home or office space and don't pay because you fall on hard times - you'll lose those too.

[Forest]

looks good evan

Did u get my e-mails? You going to internext. I like to get a few minutes to talk to you

LMK

Thanx

[Juicy D. Links]

Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[XPays]

Originally Posted by will76

Wouldn't it be in your favor to not have the person succeed?

What is the terms of the lease. If they are late 1 time for more then 30 days do they lose the domain and all money they put into it?

Its a great idea. You can't lose. You sell more domains now because people can afford them and you make 10% more with no risk to you. If the person builds the domain, gets it listed everywhere and then falls on hard times for whatever reason, you keep all the payments they made and get back a domain worth more money now then before.

I didn't read your site, so i am just making assumptions, please correct me if I am wrong.

we allow for a grace period and voluntary pause but if the lease to owner defaults, they will not get the domain. on the bright side, they will have been able to experiment and not have any longterm consequences either. we are not going to report to a credit agency for example. any product one would lease to own will revert back to the seller if the buyer defaults so that is just a fact of life and risk the buyer must take. the option is always there to payoff early with no penalty or buy outright from the start. at the end of the day, a few bucks down and a tidy monthly payment is a nice deal. dell finances equipment like this too, so does GE.....

Originally Posted by Forest

looks good evan

Did u get my e-mails? You going to internext. I like to get a few minutes to talk to you

LMK

Thanx

I am there!!!! Find me in the ocean daily- no showfloor and no cabanas

[XPays]

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[Tommy The Twink]

i need super gay domain

[will76]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

If you lease a car or a home or office space and don't pay because you fall on hard times - you'll lose those too.

Yes but typically (in most cases) when people get a car repo'ed or a house foreclosed the owner get backs a busted up wrecked piece of shit. So there is still a risk even with a nice size down payment.

What makes his deal 0 risk is because it would be next to impossible for someone to destroy the value of the domain. Unless the person ran the world's largest CP ring on the domain or the domain market falls out, if the gets the domain back it will be worth more or at the worst the same as it was when he sold it.

[will76]

Originally Posted by XPays

we allow for a grace period and voluntary pause but if the lease to owner defaults, they will not get the domain. on the bright side, they will have been able to experiment and not have any longterm consequences either. we are not going to report to a credit agency for example. any product one would lease to own will revert back to the seller if the buyer defaults so that is just a fact of life and risk the buyer must take. the option is always there to payoff early with no penalty or buy outright from the start. at the end of the day, a few bucks down and a tidy monthly payment is a nice deal. dell finances equipment like this too, so does GE.....



I am there!!!! Find me in the ocean daily- no showfloor and no cabanas

I'm not knocking it, i think its a good idea. If someone defaults they default it's not your fault or problem. I was just making sure it worked that way. What are the lease terms for this, how late can they be, how many times late, what type of grace period. can you spell it out for me, pretend I am stupid, thanks.

[pornask]

Originally Posted by Tommy The Twink

i need super gay domain

https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/754809-gay-mega-cash-dot-com.html

[will76]

Originally Posted by XPays

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PixShare.com $2,500
pleasuring.org Make Offer
pleasurist.com $5,000
PornBlogs.org $1,500
PornCash.org Make Offer
PornChatboard.com $1,500
PornClickHere.com Make Offer
PornoDiary.com $2,200
PornOnMyPod.com $2,000
potd.biz $1,300
pounder.biz Make Offer
PremiumVibes.com $3,500
profanely.com Make Offer
promiscuity.org $1,600
PublicNakedness.com $2,500
PuffyVideo.com Make Offer
pulsated.com $2,500
PureSwing.com $3,500
RawAnal.net Make Offer
RawPorn.net $2,500
RealitySexCash.com $3,000
RealityTrip.com Make Offer
rectals.com $5,500
RequestAdult.com Make Offer
RequestPorn.com Make Offer
seducers.net $1,400
self-satisfaction.com $950
sex-pod.com $2,750
SexBall.net $2,500
SexBookmark.org Make Offer
SexCum.net Make Offer
SexFetish.org $2,500
SexPlaying.com Make Offer
sexualHQ.com $2,500
SexualMentor.com $2,500
SexualSlave.com $2,500
SexVideocamera.com $2,500
SexVideoChannels.com $1,400
SexWee.com Make Offer
SexWorker.net Make Offer
sleazys.org $500
sleepspy.com $1,200
SlopShot.com $2,500
SoccerMilf.com Make Offer
SoccerMilfs.com Make Offer
SpankingLady.com $900
SpankingMachine.com Make Offer
spankings.info $900
SpermSipper.com $1,000
spits.org Make Offer
Starlette.net Make Offer
StreamingSex.net Make Offer
submitting.biz $1,400
SuckedOut.com $1,750
suckings.com $2,700
SugarMama.org Make Offer
SugarMamma.net $2,000
swallowings.com $2,100
SwingerProfile.com $1,600
SwingVideo.com $4,500
TeenageAmateur.com $950
TeenLovers.net Make Offer
TeenSexy.net Make Offer
ThatPussy.com $600
thePornList.com Make Offer
tightness.net $1,500
tittys.info $500
tittys.org $1,400
TodoAdult.com Make Offer
ToonSex.biz $750
trannys.biz Make Offer
Transexual.eu Make Offer
Transexuals.eu Make Offer
tszone.com $3,500
ucqt.com $2,500
ucum.us $500
unclothe.net $1,400
UrbanSwinger.com $2,500
USAmilfs.com $1,500
vicenet.com $3,500
VideoChatService.com $5,000
virile.org $3,000
vMILF.com Sold
vulgar.biz $1,750
vulgarness.com $2,100
waifs.org Make Offer
wanton.org $1,500
WebCamChatHost.net Make Offer
WebCamChatHosts.com Make Offer
WhoreSlut.com $1,200
WildFreaks.com $2,500
xLogon.com $1,500
xOralSex.com $1,500
xPOV.net Make Offer
XXimg.com $1,600
xxx-asian.net Make Offer
XXXchatboys.com $600
XXXchatgirls.com $600
xxxClickHere.com Make Offer
XXXfm.com $500
XXXgrammas.com $1,000
XXXimg.com $950
XXXlivesluts.com $1,400
XXXmamma.com $2,600
XXXtourist.com $1,200
YoungTail.com $850

not to sound mean or sarcastic but do you have any really good domains. If I were to do a finance type deal it wouldnt be for something like xxxchatgirls.com do you have a premium list? 20 - 100K range ? or more/

[J$tyle$]

Originally Posted by will76

Yes but typically (in most cases) when people get a car repo'ed or a house foreclosed the owner get backs a busted up wrecked piece of shit. So there is still a risk even with a nice size down payment.

What makes his deal 0 risk is because it would be next to impossible for someone to destroy the value of the domain. Unless the person ran the world's largest CP ring on the domain or the domain market falls out, if the gets the domain back it will be worth more or at the worst the same as it was when he sold it.

No shit, captain obvious

So, what's the point of all your posting about this?

[XPays]

Originally Posted by will76

not to sound mean or sarcastic but do you have any really good domains. If I were to do a finance type deal it wouldnt be for something like xxxchatgirls.com do you have a premium list? 20 - 100K range ? or more/

here is a list- some of my fav's are: spend.com, generesearch.com, syntheticgreens.com, youdvd.com and udvd.com, HickoryHam.com, ConvertMedia.com.


Spend.com Make Offer
AceJet.com $7,500
AceJet.net Make Offer
AceJet.org Make Offer
AceSEO.com $2,500
AddFavorites.com $6,000
adfiliation.com Make Offer
AdvancedScreening.com $5,000
AgedBalsamic.com Make Offer
AgedBalsamic.net Make Offer
AgedBalsamic.org Make Offer
AlertWire.com $10,000
amalgamate.org Make Offer
AnimationContent.com $5,500
attorneyship.com Make Offer
attracter.com $6,500
AutomobileGlass.net $9,000
AutomobileResale.com $30,000
AutomobileSales.org $5,000
babyHQ.com $9,500
BackCasts.com $6,500
BackMountain.com Make Offer
baddish.com $4,900
ballooner.net $3,300
BankToGo.com Make Offer
BankToGo.net Make Offer
BankToGo.org Make Offer
BattaBing.com Make Offer
BayCredit.com $9,500
BayLove.com $9,500
BeadBin.com $2,500
BeadBin.net $1,250
BigPair.com Make Offer
BigPair.net Make Offer
BlackCaviar.net Make Offer
*********** $2,000
BurtonWay.com Make Offer
BuyVinyl.com Make Offer
CamBag.com Make Offer
CaseHarden.com $2,500
CashBridge.com Make Offer
CashWon.com Make Offer
charging.org $3,500
ChaseLove.com $8,500
ChaseLove.net Make Offer
chears.net $5,000
CheeseSteakSandwich.com $2,500
ChickenBroth.net Make Offer
CineRoom.com $5,500
CineRoom.net $1,900
citizenships.net Make Offer
CitySunshine.com $1,300
CleanSound.com $6,500
ClubLive.net Make Offer
CoffeeLog.com Make Offer
CoffeeTrial.com Make Offer
collocations.org $2,900
ConvertMedia.com $8,750
ConvertMedia.net Make Offer
ConvertMedia.org Make Offer
CreditCardsBlog.com $4,500
CreditPlaza.com $3,500
CruisingSpeed.com $2,700
CustomConcept.com Make Offer
CustomStream.com $6,500
CustomStream.net Make Offer
CuteHot.com Make Offer
DeliciousCoffee.com $10,000
DieSinker.com $10,000
DinosaurFact.com Make Offer
DisInflame.com $6,500
DistinguishedSingles.com $3,500
DVDqualityVideo.com Make Offer
DVDqualityVideo.net Make Offer
DVDqualityVideos.com Make Offer
dyj.org $15,000
EasyBlogging.com $15,000
eFathers.com $17,000
EmpoweringWoman.com $5,000
endorsee.com $7,500
entertains.biz Make Offer
ePatentLaw.com $6,500
EsteemBuilder.com Make Offer
EthnicSpot.com Make Offer
EZmobilephones.com $5,000
FarmScience.com Make Offer
FarmScience.net Make Offer
feels.net $4,500
Felisha.org $2,500
filmhost.com $7,500
FireCoating.com $6,500
FirstToys.com Make Offer
fission.biz Make Offer
FlavorCafe.com $7,500
FlavoredSoda.com Make Offer
FlightInstructing.com Make Offer
FlightMatch.com $10,000
FlightMatches.com $4,750
FlyingCourse.com $15,000
FoamingBath.com Make Offer
FreightShipments.com $5,000
GemStudy.com $9,500
GeneResearch.com Make Offer
GeneScanning.com Make Offer
GeneScanning.net Make Offer
GeneScanning.org Make Offer
GeneScans.org Make Offer
giantly.com $5,000
GolfEthics.com $7,500
GolfTrick.com Make Offer
GraffitiRemoval.net $6,000
griddle.org $3,900
HickoryHam.com $7,500
HickoryHam.net Make Offer
HickoryHam.org Make Offer
HickoryPit.com $7,500
HickoryPit.net Make Offer
HickoryPit.org Make Offer
HitPorno.com $10,000
hotometer.com $5,500
HugeMassive.com $3,500
HybridAutomobile.org Make Offer
HybridConcepts.com Make Offer
HybridForum.com Make Offer
HybridForum.org Make Offer
HybridForums.com Make Offer
ImportJeans.com $3,750
InstallationService.com $7,500
InterCrossing.com $4,500
InvestMoney.biz Make Offer
invests.org Make Offer
IonicToothbrush.com $24,000
iPatentLaw.com Make Offer
JazzArenas.com $9,500
JetZip.com $5,500
Jills.org $3,500
jnjn.com $2,000
jucee.com $7,500
JustChatting.com $5,000
KiteBlading.com Make Offer
LaserCart.com $6,500
LeatherBookbinding.com $7,500
LendCash.net Make Offer
LiveAtlas.com Make Offer
LoanResource.net Make Offer
lols.net $6,500
LoveCounseling.com $6,500
lovered.com Make Offer
LuxuryBusRental.com Make Offer
Madonnas.net $2,750
ManRule.com Make Offer
MapSets.com $2,900
MarketCenters.com $3,500
metagenics.net $12,500
MethaneCar.com Make Offer
MethaneCar.net Make Offer
MobileDating.biz Make Offer
MobileStyle.net $15,000
ModernPlan.com $4,500
MovieFetch.com $7,500
MovieRestoration.com Make Offer
MovieWedding.com $5,000
MRdictionary.com $10,000
MRescrow.com $3,500
myCompanyCredit.com Make Offer
MYpokerchip.com Make Offer
namedoctor.com Make Offer
NetStakes.com $5,000
NextBilling.com Make Offer
nezy.com Make Offer
nightperson.com $9,500
NotebookCam.com $4,500
obtainvisa.com $15,000
oedema.com $22,000
oenology.org $10,000
offshoots.com $8,500
OKbro.com $4,500
OperaHall.com Make Offer
OpticalMachine.com $20,000
OrganicGreenTeas.com Sold
OutdoorCandles.com $6,500
PaidPlacement.net Make Offer
paleography.org $2,500
paprica.net $3,700
PatentBuyer.com Make Offer
PatentFund.com Make Offer
Pedros.org Make Offer
PhotoProfiles.com $6,000
PhotoVisual.net $1,800
Pimola.com $6,000
PixelCommerce.com Make Offer
PlantSystem.com Make Offer
PocketTissue.com $7,500
PocketUmbrella.com $10,000
PodVillage.com $15,000
PondBoat.com $5,000
PremierImport.com $1,500
PremiumWheels.com $6,500
PrimarySatellite.com Make Offer
ProduceFilm.com Make Offer
ProfessionalAthletes.com Make Offer
ProfitMaker.net Make Offer
ProgressiveInk.com $7,500
railcrossing.com $4,500
RaisingCash.com $5,000
RareFrenchWine.com $12,000
RareFrenchWine.net Make Offer
RareWine.net $7,500
remixes.org $3,500
RemoteMoney.com $3,500
RentalMobile.com $5,000
rhymist.com $2,500
Romancer.com Sold
RoomAgents.com $5,000
rose-water.com $2,400
SafetyJack.com $7,500
SalesMall.com $7,500
SalmonSkin.com $4,500
ScrapJunk.com $6,000
SeafoodMarinade.com $6,500
SeafoodMarinade.net $4,500
SecuredBank.net Make Offer
SeizedProperty.net Make Offer
SelfBroadcast.com $10,000
ServerTechnician.com Make Offer
ShipGoods.com $6,500
SlimDisplay.com Make Offer
SMScafe.com $15,000
sourness.com $5,500
SpaceMissions.net Make Offer
SpaceVehicle.net Make Offer
SpeakMind.com Make Offer
spends.org Make Offer
StaffingFirm.net Make Offer
SteelTub.com $5,000
StockCrawl.com $5,500
StreetGossip.com $5,000
SuperiorWine.com $7,500
SuperSock.com $7,500
syntheticgreens.com Make Offer
TeaLounge.com Make Offer
TeaLounges.com Make Offer
text-book.org Make Offer
ThatPays.com Make Offer
theCreditGuide.com $5,000
threaders.com $4,500
top-seo.com $9,000
TourAgency.net Make Offer
TourBand.com Make Offer
TravelRouter.com $15,000
TriColored.com Make Offer
TripMatcher.com Make Offer
TripMatcher.net Make Offer
TripMatcher.org Make Offer
TutoringSystem.com Make Offer
uDVD.com $29,000
UnitedChoice.com $3,000
vanillaseed.com $6,500
vanmall.com $7,500
VaporSystem.com $15,000
VerifiedPayment.com Make Offer
VerifyFunds.com Make Offer
VeterinarianClinic.net Make Offer
VODcinema.com Make Offer
vodHQ.com $7,500
VoiceHome.net Make Offer
WeatherproofCamera.com Make Offer
WebHealthQuotes.com Make Offer
WebMart.org Make Offer
webmastered.com Make Offer
whoots.com $1,500
wildfrog.com $2,500
WinAuction.com $9,500
WineLog.com $20,000
WineStudies.com $8,500
wiseness.com $3,500
xaim.com $20,000
xcorp.com Make Offer
yachter.com $13,000

[XPays]

here is the current lease to own doc will:

Domain Name Lease To Own Purchase Agreement

This DOMAIN NAME LEASE TO OWN PURCHASE AGREEMENT ("Agreement") is effective as of July 27, 2007, by and between __________________________________ (the "Lessee/Buyer") and Essociate Inc., d.b.a. Hunting Moon Domain Sales (the "Lessor/Seller").

WHEREAS, the Lessor/Seller and Lessee/Buyer desire to transact the following Domain(s) at the listed base sales price(s) and finance rate:

winelog.com for $20,000.00 USD

Finance Rate: 9.0% annual percentage rate.

Lease Term: __________ months.

10% Down Payment: $2,000.00

Monthly Lease Payment: $__________________________________

Lease Setup Fee: $25.00 ($25.00 per domain)

Domain Renewal Fees: $0.00

Total Initial Payment: ________________________________

Complete Lease Payment with Fees and Interest: ________________________________

WHEREAS, the Lessee/Buyer is desirous of leasing the Domain(s); and

WHEREAS, the Lessor/Seller is willing to lease the Domain(s) for the specified time period above; and

WHEREAS, the Lessor/Seller is willing to assign to the Lessee/Buyer all right, title, and interest as the Lessor/Seller may possess in and to the Domain(s) once all required lease payments have been made.

NOW THEREFORE, for consideration of the foregoing recitals and mutual promises contained herein, the Parties hereby agree as follows:

1. Concurrent with the execution of this Agreement by Lessee/Buyer, and receipt by Lessor/Seller of the Total Initial Payment noted above, the Lessor/Seller will immediately begin the specified term lease of the Domain(s) listed above. At such time, the Lessor/Seller will also take all steps necessary to effectuate change of domain name servers (DNS) such that the Domains are correctly redirected to the Lessee/Buyer's domain name servers, if provided, for immediate use by Lessee/Buyer. Under normal circumstances DNS changes will be made within 24 hours; however, it often takes an additional 36-48 hours for DNS to update worldwide. If Lessee/Buyer is paying via credit card and the Total Initial Payment price is $500.00 (five hundred dollars) or greater, Lessee/Buyer is required to submit a Credit Card Authorization Form ( available at http://www.huntingmoon.com/cc_auth_lease.html ) via fax.

2. Lessee/Buyer understands that NO property interest, nor corellating percentage interest, in the Domain(s) accrue until the entire lease payment schedule has been satisfactorily completed. As such, this lease may be cancelled at any time by Lessee/Buyer, without penalty; however, no lease payments or fees will be refunded by Lessor/Seller, and the Lessee/Buyer will have no further right to utilize or operate the Domain(s).

3. Lessee/Buyer will be provided with a password-protected online login to view a payoff schedule to completely accelerate the remaining lease payments and complete the purchase of the Domain(s). It is the responsibility of the Lessee/Buyer to maintain the security of their chosen password and provide any updated contact information during the term of the lease. The Lessee/Buyer should immediately contact the Lessor/Seller if the credit card information used for automatic lease payments needs to be changed or updated. If the Lessor/Seller is unable to process lease payments from Lessee/Buyer during the normal lease payment cycle, Lessor/Seller will contact the Lessee/Buyer to arrange alternate payment methods. If the Lessee/Buyer is unable to pay the delinquent lease payment and resume normal payments within 30 days of the delinquent payment, the lease will be considered immediately cancelled by the Lessee/Buyer.

4. During the first 30 days of this lease, the Lessee/Buyer may completely accelerate payment of the entire lease, without any interest payments or Domain Renewal Fees. In such case, the new final purchase price of the Domain(s) would be the original sales price(s) plus the Lease Setup Fee noted above. Complete lease acceleration after the first 30 days may also result in a partial refund of Domain Renewal Fees, as noted in the online lease payoff schedule.

5. During the lease period, Lessee/Buyer may not use the Domain(s) for, or in conjunction with, any illegal or malicious purpose, including, but not limited to, spamming, phishing, trademark infringement, copyright infringement, patent infringement, defamation, intimidation, spyware distribution, or adware distribution. Any negligent or intentional violation of this provision shall result in the immediate termination of this lease, such that any previous lease payments shall be forfeited by Lessee/Buyer.

6. During the term of the lease, the Lessor/Seller will remain as the Domain(s) legal Registrant, but shall take the necessary steps to configure the Lessee/Buyer as the "Administartive Contact" for the Domain(s), if such information is provided by Lessee/Buyer. However, during the lease period, the Lessee/Buyer is not permitted to access the Domain(s) Registrar account, nor cause any changes to be made to WHOIS information maintained by the Registrar.

7. Once the final lease payment has been processed, the Lessor/Seller will promptly, fully and in good faith undertake any necessary steps and procedures to effectuate the timely transfer of ownership in the Domain(s), including, but not limited to, approving any valid transfer request for the Domain(s). In limited circumstances, because of strict ICANN Registrar policies beyond Lessor/Seller's control, certain domains may take up to 60 days to complete transfer unless the Lessee/Buyer completes the transfer utilizing the current Registrar. However, any such transfer delay shall not impact any change of DNS so that Lessee/Buyer has no interuption or delay in utilizing the Domain(s).

8. The Lessor/Seller shall also exercise all reasonable measures to ensure that the registration(s) for the Domain(s) remain in paid status and in good standing during the term of the lease, such that the Lessor/Seller continues to be in a position to legally transfer complete ownership of the Domain(s) to the Lessee/Buyer at the completion of the lease. At such time, the Lessee/Buyer is required to timely transfer the Domain(s) to it's own registrar account for future domain renewals. If the Lessee/Buyer does not timely complete transfer of the domain after the lease is complete, the Lessee/Buyer will be required to pay any additionally accrued domain renewal fees incurred during the delay. Once transfered, it is the sole responsibility of the Lessee/Buyer to maintain the future registration and renewal of the Domain(s), including satisfying any residency requirements/restrictions on certain domains.

9. The Lessor/Seller represents and warrants that it has not previously encumbered the Domain(s) and that it is the sole legal owner of the Domain(s). Furthermore, the Lessor/Seller represents and warrants that it has all legal authority necessary to lease and subsequently convey ownership of the Domain(s) to the Lessee/Buyer and has the ability to assign to the Lessee/Buyer all rights, title, and interest it may possess in and to the Domain(s).

10. This Agreement shall be binding upon and shall inure to the benefit of the Parties and their successors in interest, agents, employees and those acting in concert with them.

11. Lessee/Buyer has read and agreed to the Sales Policies/Guidelines ( available at http://huntingmoon.com/terms.html ) which are hereby incorporated by reference.

12. The Parties are fully authorized and legally competent to execute this Agreement.

13. In the event legal action is necessary to enforce or interpret any of the terms of this Agreement, the prevailing party therein shall be entitled to recover its reasonable attorney's fees and costs incurred therewith.

14. This Agreement may be signed (including by fax transmission) in one or more counterparts, each of which shall be deemed to constitute a fully executed original.

15. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of California as applied to contracts made and wholly performed within the State.

16. This Agreement supersedes all prior discussions and writings between the parties relating to the subject matter hereof. This Agreement may only be amended by a writing signed by both Parties. Notices pertaining to this Agreement shall be sent in writing (including facsimile) to the parties at the addresses set forth in the signatures below.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties cause this Agreement to be executed and made effective as of the date provided above.

LESSEE/BUYER:



__________________________________________________ __
Signature


__________________________________________________ ___
Address


__________________________________________________ ___
City/State/ZIP/Country


__________________________________________________ ___
Email Address


__________________________________________________ ___
Phone
LESSOR/SELLER:
HuntingMoon Domain Sales
4630 Geary Blvd. Suite #101
San Francisco, CA 94118
Phone: 415-750-2570
Fax: 415-387-1516
Email: [email protected]

[CIVMatt]

WineStudies.com $8,500, seriously?

[XPays]

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

WineStudies.com $8,500, seriously?

Wine is set to expload on the web in the u.s.. redtape is being cleared out to open the floodgates. Hey, sometimes prices are set because we want to sit on a domain. If somebody wants to pay asking for that, then they will make their money back in time anyway. We are having success in the $1500-$5000 price range in all categories atm.

[J$tyle$]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

No shit, captain obvious

So, what's the point of all your posting about this?

maybe that came off as a little harsh ...

BUT i'm still interested in knowing.

on the one hand it seems like you think it's a good idea ... on the other it sounds like you might think it takes advantage of the lessee.

which side of the fence are you on?

[XPays]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

maybe that came off as a little harsh ...

BUT i'm still interested in knowing.

on the one hand it seems like you think it's a good idea ... on the other it sounds like you might think it takes advantage of the lessee.

which side of the fence are you on?

datatanks with clever comment in

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[CIVMatt]

Originally Posted by XPays

Wine is set to expload on the web in the u.s.. redtape is being cleared out to open the floodgates. Hey, sometimes prices are set because we want to sit on a domain. If somebody wants to pay asking for that, then they will make their money back in time anyway. We are having success in the $1500-$5000 price range in all categories atm.

Well I guess I'll sit on learningwines.com for a little longer then, cool service.

[Juicy D. Links]

meowwwwww

[will76]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

No shit, captain obvious

So, what's the point of all your posting about this?

captin obvious like this too right ? dunno whats you point?

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

If you lease a car or a home or office space and don't pay because you fall on hard times - you'll lose those too.

[will76]

Originally Posted by XPays

here is the current lease to own doc will:

Domain Name Lease To Own Purchase Agreement

This DOMAIN NAME LEASE TO OWN PURCHASE AGREEMENT ("Agreement") is effective as of July 27, 2007, by and between __________________________________ (the "Lessee/Buyer") and Essociate Inc., d.b.a. Hunting Moon Domain Sales (the "Lessor/Seller").

WHEREAS, the Lessor/Seller and Lessee/Buyer desire to transact the following Domain(s) at the listed base sales price(s) and finance rate:

winelog.com for $20,000.00 USD

Finance Rate: 9.0% annual percentage rate.

Lease Term: __________ months.

10% Down Payment: $2,000.00

Monthly Lease Payment: $__________________________________

Lease Setup Fee: $25.00 ($25.00 per domain)

Domain Renewal Fees: $0.00

Total Initial Payment: ________________________________

Complete Lease Payment with Fees and Interest: ________________________________

WHEREAS, the Lessee/Buyer is desirous of leasing the Domain(s); and

WHEREAS, the Lessor/Seller is willing to lease the Domain(s) for the specified time period above; and

WHEREAS, the Lessor/Seller is willing to assign to the Lessee/Buyer all right, title, and interest as the Lessor/Seller may possess in and to the Domain(s) once all required lease payments have been made.

NOW THEREFORE, for consideration of the foregoing recitals and mutual promises contained herein, the Parties hereby agree as follows:

1. Concurrent with the execution of this Agreement by Lessee/Buyer, and receipt by Lessor/Seller of the Total Initial Payment noted above, the Lessor/Seller will immediately begin the specified term lease of the Domain(s) listed above. At such time, the Lessor/Seller will also take all steps necessary to effectuate change of domain name servers (DNS) such that the Domains are correctly redirected to the Lessee/Buyer's domain name servers, if provided, for immediate use by Lessee/Buyer. Under normal circumstances DNS changes will be made within 24 hours; however, it often takes an additional 36-48 hours for DNS to update worldwide. If Lessee/Buyer is paying via credit card and the Total Initial Payment price is $500.00 (five hundred dollars) or greater, Lessee/Buyer is required to submit a Credit Card Authorization Form ( available at http://www.huntingmoon.com/cc_auth_lease.html ) via fax.

2. Lessee/Buyer understands that NO property interest, nor corellating percentage interest, in the Domain(s) accrue until the entire lease payment schedule has been satisfactorily completed. As such, this lease may be cancelled at any time by Lessee/Buyer, without penalty; however, no lease payments or fees will be refunded by Lessor/Seller, and the Lessee/Buyer will have no further right to utilize or operate the Domain(s).

3. Lessee/Buyer will be provided with a password-protected online login to view a payoff schedule to completely accelerate the remaining lease payments and complete the purchase of the Domain(s). It is the responsibility of the Lessee/Buyer to maintain the security of their chosen password and provide any updated contact information during the term of the lease. The Lessee/Buyer should immediately contact the Lessor/Seller if the credit card information used for automatic lease payments needs to be changed or updated. If the Lessor/Seller is unable to process lease payments from Lessee/Buyer during the normal lease payment cycle, Lessor/Seller will contact the Lessee/Buyer to arrange alternate payment methods. If the Lessee/Buyer is unable to pay the delinquent lease payment and resume normal payments within 30 days of the delinquent payment, the lease will be considered immediately cancelled by the Lessee/Buyer.

4. During the first 30 days of this lease, the Lessee/Buyer may completely accelerate payment of the entire lease, without any interest payments or Domain Renewal Fees. In such case, the new final purchase price of the Domain(s) would be the original sales price(s) plus the Lease Setup Fee noted above. Complete lease acceleration after the first 30 days may also result in a partial refund of Domain Renewal Fees, as noted in the online lease payoff schedule.

5. During the lease period, Lessee/Buyer may not use the Domain(s) for, or in conjunction with, any illegal or malicious purpose, including, but not limited to, spamming, phishing, trademark infringement, copyright infringement, patent infringement, defamation, intimidation, spyware distribution, or adware distribution. Any negligent or intentional violation of this provision shall result in the immediate termination of this lease, such that any previous lease payments shall be forfeited by Lessee/Buyer.

6. During the term of the lease, the Lessor/Seller will remain as the Domain(s) legal Registrant, but shall take the necessary steps to configure the Lessee/Buyer as the "Administartive Contact" for the Domain(s), if such information is provided by Lessee/Buyer. However, during the lease period, the Lessee/Buyer is not permitted to access the Domain(s) Registrar account, nor cause any changes to be made to WHOIS information maintained by the Registrar.

7. Once the final lease payment has been processed, the Lessor/Seller will promptly, fully and in good faith undertake any necessary steps and procedures to effectuate the timely transfer of ownership in the Domain(s), including, but not limited to, approving any valid transfer request for the Domain(s). In limited circumstances, because of strict ICANN Registrar policies beyond Lessor/Seller's control, certain domains may take up to 60 days to complete transfer unless the Lessee/Buyer completes the transfer utilizing the current Registrar. However, any such transfer delay shall not impact any change of DNS so that Lessee/Buyer has no interuption or delay in utilizing the Domain(s).

8. The Lessor/Seller shall also exercise all reasonable measures to ensure that the registration(s) for the Domain(s) remain in paid status and in good standing during the term of the lease, such that the Lessor/Seller continues to be in a position to legally transfer complete ownership of the Domain(s) to the Lessee/Buyer at the completion of the lease. At such time, the Lessee/Buyer is required to timely transfer the Domain(s) to it's own registrar account for future domain renewals. If the Lessee/Buyer does not timely complete transfer of the domain after the lease is complete, the Lessee/Buyer will be required to pay any additionally accrued domain renewal fees incurred during the delay. Once transfered, it is the sole responsibility of the Lessee/Buyer to maintain the future registration and renewal of the Domain(s), including satisfying any residency requirements/restrictions on certain domains.

9. The Lessor/Seller represents and warrants that it has not previously encumbered the Domain(s) and that it is the sole legal owner of the Domain(s). Furthermore, the Lessor/Seller represents and warrants that it has all legal authority necessary to lease and subsequently convey ownership of the Domain(s) to the Lessee/Buyer and has the ability to assign to the Lessee/Buyer all rights, title, and interest it may possess in and to the Domain(s).

10. This Agreement shall be binding upon and shall inure to the benefit of the Parties and their successors in interest, agents, employees and those acting in concert with them.

11. Lessee/Buyer has read and agreed to the Sales Policies/Guidelines ( available at http://huntingmoon.com/terms.html ) which are hereby incorporated by reference.

12. The Parties are fully authorized and legally competent to execute this Agreement.

13. In the event legal action is necessary to enforce or interpret any of the terms of this Agreement, the prevailing party therein shall be entitled to recover its reasonable attorney's fees and costs incurred therewith.

14. This Agreement may be signed (including by fax transmission) in one or more counterparts, each of which shall be deemed to constitute a fully executed original.

15. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of California as applied to contracts made and wholly performed within the State.

16. This Agreement supersedes all prior discussions and writings between the parties relating to the subject matter hereof. This Agreement may only be amended by a writing signed by both Parties. Notices pertaining to this Agreement shall be sent in writing (including facsimile) to the parties at the addresses set forth in the signatures below.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties cause this Agreement to be executed and made effective as of the date provided above.

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4630 Geary Blvd. Suite #101
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mmm thanks, but

Originally Posted by XPays

If the Lessee/Buyer is unable to pay the delinquent lease payment and resume normal payments within 30 days of the delinquent payment, the lease will be considered immediately cancelled by the Lessee/Buyer.

would have be sufficient to answer my question.

[will76]

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

maybe that came off as a little harsh ...

BUT i'm still interested in knowing.

on the one hand it seems like you think it's a good idea ... on the other it sounds like you might think it takes advantage of the lessee.

which side of the fence are you on?

I think you were reading into it wrong. I think its a good idea. I think if some one defaults is their own fault as I have stated in this thread.

The only thing I was trying to find out was how hardcore evan was going to be with this. Given how he has handled sueing people over domain names I wanted to know how late he would allow people to be, 7 days late, 30 days late, give them a 1 time grace period of 60 days, etc.... After asking 3 times and reading through his entire lease agreement I see it is 30 days.

31 days late you lose everything. Which is fine, i don't think that is out of line.

[XPays]

Originally Posted by will76

I think you were reading into it wrong. I think its a good idea. I think if some one defaults is their own fault as I have stated in this thread.

The only thing I was trying to find out was how hardcore evan was going to be with this. Given how he has handled sueing people over domain names I wanted to know how late he would allow people to be, 7 days late, 30 days late, give them a 1 time grace period of 60 days, etc.... After asking 3 times and reading through his entire lease agreement I see it is 30 days.

31 days late you lose everything. Which is fine, i don't think that is out of line.

XPays protecting and expanding its brand by acquiring domains has zero to do with HuntingMoon. HuntingMoon is not owned by XPays.

[J$tyle$]

Originally Posted by will76

I think you were reading into it wrong. I think its a good idea. I think if some one defaults is their own fault as I have stated in this thread.

The only thing I was trying to find out was how hardcore evan was going to be with this. Given how he has handled sueing people over domain names I wanted to know how late he would allow people to be, 7 days late, 30 days late, give them a 1 time grace period of 60 days, etc.... After asking 3 times and reading through his entire lease agreement I see it is 30 days.

31 days late you lose everything. Which is fine, i don't think that is out of line.

Understandable.

BTW - who and how many people do you know that Evan sued over domain names?

I know there was a lawsuit over a domain that had "xpays" in it maybe 4 or 5 years ago but I never heard of him suing anybody else over anything until recently regarding copyright infringement.