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DS250 07-26-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 12819105)
He does not just link to them

http://www.nastyboards.com/forums/t2...apartment.html

He embeds the videos... BIG difference. It does not matter where it is hosted, its ON his site, and its SELECTED by him, he can not claim that its user submitted content, thus he is not protected.

And on top of that, the least he needs is 2257 docs...

Although we will have to see what the DOJ says to some comments before we are sure of that I guess...

If you honestly believe that then all I can say is feel free to sue and see where that gets you. I am talking from experience when i say if it is not on his server then you have nothing, especially because he is not in the US. If you had anything the millions of sites that do the same thing would be taken down, and you would all be living fat off of the damages.

DS250 07-26-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 12819113)
Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.

He stated it himself, plus I checked where his site was hosted.

Nathan 07-26-2007 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 12819117)
If you honestly believe that then all I can say is feel free to sue and see where that gets you. I am talking from experience when i say if it is not on his server then you have nothing, especially because he is not in the US. If you had anything the millions of sites that do the same thing would be taken down, and you would all be living fat off of the damages.

If this is the case, would make for a big loophole in the law... I can hardly beleive it though...

I wonder if they think the same way for 2257, which I highly doubt though...

But as I said, I doubt they really think this way for DCMA either...

Nathan 07-26-2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 12819119)
He stated it himself, plus I checked where his site was hosted.

He can state all he wants, his domain whois is protected... so we will never know for sure...

DS250 07-26-2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 12819113)
Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.

A million torrent sites in the Netherlands would disagree

DS250 07-26-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 12819134)
He can state all he wants, his domain whois is protected... so we will never know for sure...

I know I'm coming off as an asshole here, but the sponsors that didn't give the first shit about their affiliates interests are now seeing what happens when those affiliates decide to strike back. So it is ok for Steve Lightspeed to profit off of stolen content traffic, which he absolutely does, but not ok for the rest of us? Bullshit!

Humpy Leftnut 07-26-2007 12:47 AM

All this talk of lawyers is making me hungry...

Sen 07-26-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 12819135)
A million torrent sites in the Netherlands would disagree

Thats why the biggest torrentsites are blocking dutch trafic. They are getting closed down also. But u can not stop it now. The only way to stop it is in your own hands dont pay them. If they cant pay their bills they will stop.

And make a club that searches for this and tries to block them. Most of the times a good email or letter wil be sufficient.

DS250 07-26-2007 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen (Post 12819215)
Thats why the biggest torrentsites are blocking dutch trafic. They are getting closed down also. But u can not stop it now. The only way to stop it is in your own hands dont pay them. If they cant pay their bills they will stop.

And make a club that searches for this and tries to block them. Most of the times a good email or letter wil be sufficient.

But they will always be able to pay their bills, because the Steve Lightspeed hypocrites of the world will bitch about their content being stolen but will gladly profit off of traffic from other's stolen content. They are talking out both sides of their mouth.

Sen 07-26-2007 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 12819264)
But they will always be able to pay their bills, because the Steve Lightspeed hypocrites of the world will bitch about their content being stolen but will gladly profit off of traffic from other's stolen content. They are talking out both sides of their mouth.

What i don't get is there not somebody at the sponsers checking if the page is good for them. When he submitted somebody had to watch the site right ?

DS250 07-26-2007 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen (Post 12819479)
What i don't get is there not somebody at the sponsers checking if the page is good for them. When he submitted somebody had to watch the site right ?

They know exactly where the traffic is coming from, and it is a no lose situation for them. The can profit off of it until they are called out on it, then they can feign ignorance and seize the affiliates money and be lauded as heroes when they do. They are fucking scum, and even though this kid is an arrogant punk he is not in the wrong.

Sen 07-26-2007 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 12819542)
They know exactly where the traffic is coming from, and it is a no lose situation for them. The can profit off of it until they are called out on it, then they can feign ignorance and seize the affiliates money and be lauded as heroes when they do. They are fucking scum, and even though this kid is an arrogant punk he is not in the wrong.

No u are right why they give away movie files of 100MB away in the partner area if u can not use it ?


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