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Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by squizzel

yessssss! im being sued for pasting a html code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! worlds first?

That is EXACTLY your problem my friend.. this does _NOT FALL UNDER DCMA_ ... read up on the law!

_YOU_ posted the content, _YOU_ picked the content, _YOU_ selected it... that makes you responsible and he can very much sue you.

Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:13 AM

Oh and I forgot to say, have fun Steve

Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

I don't think he was claiming protection under DMCA.

He was notifying Steve that in accordance with DMCA he would remove the content if officially asked.

Where is the point of notifying Steve if he can do this "in accordance with DMCA" all day long, he is not PROTECTED by DMCA though.. so who cares if he would remove the content _HE_ clearly stated he added himself.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

That is EXACTLY your problem my friend.. this does _NOT FALL UNDER DCMA_ ... read up on the law!

_YOU_ posted the content, _YOU_ picked the content, _YOU_ selected it... that makes you responsible and he can very much sue you.

No it doesn't genius. The content was already uploaded to another source, and he posted links to it on his board. The most these idiots can do is waste money and try and tie him up in court, but the fact tht he is in Amsterdam means they can only bend over, spread their cheeks, and take it in the ass. Please don't assume you have a fucking clue how this works until you have been through one of these cases, which i recently have. You are talking out your ass and speculating. He can simply ignore whatever legal action is taken and go on with his life.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tucker

Bravo...I think this statement just took your DMCA protection away. Have fun Steve, let me know if you need anything.

Just because you like to sue people dosn't mean you know dick about the law. As long as he isn't hosting the content you can't do shit. You can waste money and have your attorneys blow smoke up your ass but in the end all you will have is a stack of attorney bills. If you don't believe me try it and see where that gets you.

squizzel · 07-26-2007, 12:19 AM

i am seeking legal advice now and if i find out that it is illegal then they will all go. if it is not they will all stay.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i'm siding with squizzel here. Steve you're acting like a real asshole btw. If you were going to actually DO ANYTHING you should have just done it. Flexing nuts on a webmaster board is lame :/

If he could do anything he would've already. The fact that he sat on here and threatened shows that he knew he had dick and was so pissed he had to flex his nuts. I know 100 sites off the top of my head that have links to his content, and he can't do shit. The funny thing is I was an affiliate of his once, and maybe you should ask him about his own bullshit practices.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Where is the point of notifying Steve if he can do this "in accordance with DMCA" all day long, he is not PROTECTED by DMCA though.. so who cares if he would remove the content _HE_ clearly stated he added himself.

DMCA only applies to where the content is hosted and it is not on his server. Good luck getting the megarotics of the world to listen to you wannabe lawyers.

Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250

No it doesn't genius. The content was already uploaded to another source, and he posted links to it on his board. The most these idiots can do is waste money and try and tie him up in court, but the fact tht he is in Amsterdam means they can only bend over, spread their cheeks, and take it in the ass. Please don't assume you have a fucking clue how this works until you have been through one of these cases, which i recently have. You are talking out your ass and speculating. He can simply ignore whatever legal action is taken and go on with his life.

He does not just link to them

http://www.nastyboards.com/forums/t2...apartment.html

He embeds the videos... BIG difference. It does not matter where it is hosted, its ON his site, and its SELECTED by him, he can not claim that its user submitted content, thus he is not protected.

And on top of that, the least he needs is 2257 docs...

Although we will have to see what the DOJ says to some comments before we are sure of that I guess...

Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:28 AM

Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

He does not just link to them

http://www.nastyboards.com/forums/t2...apartment.html

He embeds the videos... BIG difference. It does not matter where it is hosted, its ON his site, and its SELECTED by him, he can not claim that its user submitted content, thus he is not protected.

And on top of that, the least he needs is 2257 docs...

Although we will have to see what the DOJ says to some comments before we are sure of that I guess...

If you honestly believe that then all I can say is feel free to sue and see where that gets you. I am talking from experience when i say if it is not on his server then you have nothing, especially because he is not in the US. If you had anything the millions of sites that do the same thing would be taken down, and you would all be living fat off of the damages.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.

He stated it himself, plus I checked where his site was hosted.

Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250

If you honestly believe that then all I can say is feel free to sue and see where that gets you. I am talking from experience when i say if it is not on his server then you have nothing, especially because he is not in the US. If you had anything the millions of sites that do the same thing would be taken down, and you would all be living fat off of the damages.

If this is the case, would make for a big loophole in the law... I can hardly beleive it though...

I wonder if they think the same way for 2257, which I highly doubt though...

But as I said, I doubt they really think this way for DCMA either...

Nathan · 07-26-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250

He stated it himself, plus I checked where his site was hosted.

He can state all he wants, his domain whois is protected... so we will never know for sure...

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.

A million torrent sites in the Netherlands would disagree

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

He can state all he wants, his domain whois is protected... so we will never know for sure...

I know I'm coming off as an asshole here, but the sponsors that didn't give the first shit about their affiliates interests are now seeing what happens when those affiliates decide to strike back. So it is ok for Steve Lightspeed to profit off of stolen content traffic, which he absolutely does, but not ok for the rest of us? Bullshit!

Humpy Leftnut · 07-26-2007, 12:47 AM

All this talk of lawyers is making me hungry...

Sen · 07-26-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250

A million torrent sites in the Netherlands would disagree

Thats why the biggest torrentsites are blocking dutch trafic. They are getting closed down also. But u can not stop it now. The only way to stop it is in your own hands dont pay them. If they cant pay their bills they will stop.

And make a club that searches for this and tries to block them. Most of the times a good email or letter wil be sufficient.

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen

Thats why the biggest torrentsites are blocking dutch trafic. They are getting closed down also. But u can not stop it now. The only way to stop it is in your own hands dont pay them. If they cant pay their bills they will stop.

And make a club that searches for this and tries to block them. Most of the times a good email or letter wil be sufficient.

But they will always be able to pay their bills, because the Steve Lightspeed hypocrites of the world will bitch about their content being stolen but will gladly profit off of traffic from other's stolen content. They are talking out both sides of their mouth.

Sen · 07-26-2007, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250

But they will always be able to pay their bills, because the Steve Lightspeed hypocrites of the world will bitch about their content being stolen but will gladly profit off of traffic from other's stolen content. They are talking out both sides of their mouth.

What i don't get is there not somebody at the sponsers checking if the page is good for them. When he submitted somebody had to watch the site right ?

DS250 · 07-26-2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen

What i don't get is there not somebody at the sponsers checking if the page is good for them. When he submitted somebody had to watch the site right ?

They know exactly where the traffic is coming from, and it is a no lose situation for them. The can profit off of it until they are called out on it, then they can feign ignorance and seize the affiliates money and be lauded as heroes when they do. They are fucking scum, and even though this kid is an arrogant punk he is not in the wrong.

Sen · 07-26-2007, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250

They know exactly where the traffic is coming from, and it is a no lose situation for them. The can profit off of it until they are called out on it, then they can feign ignorance and seize the affiliates money and be lauded as heroes when they do. They are fucking scum, and even though this kid is an arrogant punk he is not in the wrong.

No u are right why they give away movie files of 100MB away in the partner area if u can not use it ?

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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squizzel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 900	i am seeking legal advice now and if i find out that it is illegal then they will all go. if it is not they will all stay.