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  • Nathan
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 3108

    #151
    Originally posted by squizzel
    yessssss! im being sued for pasting a html code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! worlds first?
    That is EXACTLY your problem my friend.. this does _NOT FALL UNDER DCMA_ ... read up on the law!

    _YOU_ posted the content, _YOU_ picked the content, _YOU_ selected it... that makes you responsible and he can very much sue you.
    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
    - Charlie Munger

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    • Nathan
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3108

      #152
      Oh and I forgot to say, have fun Steve
      "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
      - Charlie Munger

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      • Nathan
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 3108

        #153
        Originally posted by Young
        I don't think he was claiming protection under DMCA.

        He was notifying Steve that in accordance with DMCA he would remove the content if officially asked.
        Where is the point of notifying Steve if he can do this "in accordance with DMCA" all day long, he is not PROTECTED by DMCA though.. so who cares if he would remove the content _HE_ clearly stated he added himself.
        "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
        - Charlie Munger

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        • DS250
          Registered User
          • May 2007
          • 411

          #154
          Originally posted by Nathan
          That is EXACTLY your problem my friend.. this does _NOT FALL UNDER DCMA_ ... read up on the law!

          _YOU_ posted the content, _YOU_ picked the content, _YOU_ selected it... that makes you responsible and he can very much sue you.
          No it doesn't genius. The content was already uploaded to another source, and he posted links to it on his board. The most these idiots can do is waste money and try and tie him up in court, but the fact tht he is in Amsterdam means they can only bend over, spread their cheeks, and take it in the ass. Please don't assume you have a fucking clue how this works until you have been through one of these cases, which i recently have. You are talking out your ass and speculating. He can simply ignore whatever legal action is taken and go on with his life.

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          • DS250
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 411

            #155
            Originally posted by tucker
            Bravo...I think this statement just took your DMCA protection away. Have fun Steve, let me know if you need anything.
            Just because you like to sue people dosn't mean you know dick about the law. As long as he isn't hosting the content you can't do shit. You can waste money and have your attorneys blow smoke up your ass but in the end all you will have is a stack of attorney bills. If you don't believe me try it and see where that gets you.

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            • squizzel
              So Fucking Banned
              • Feb 2005
              • 900

              #156
              i am seeking legal advice now and if i find out that it is illegal then they will all go. if it is not they will all stay.

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              • DS250
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 411

                #157
                Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                i'm siding with squizzel here. Steve you're acting like a real asshole btw. If you were going to actually DO ANYTHING you should have just done it. Flexing nuts on a webmaster board is lame :/
                If he could do anything he would've already. The fact that he sat on here and threatened shows that he knew he had dick and was so pissed he had to flex his nuts. I know 100 sites off the top of my head that have links to his content, and he can't do shit. The funny thing is I was an affiliate of his once, and maybe you should ask him about his own bullshit practices.

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                • DS250
                  Registered User
                  • May 2007
                  • 411

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Nathan
                  Where is the point of notifying Steve if he can do this "in accordance with DMCA" all day long, he is not PROTECTED by DMCA though.. so who cares if he would remove the content _HE_ clearly stated he added himself.
                  DMCA only applies to where the content is hosted and it is not on his server. Good luck getting the megarotics of the world to listen to you wannabe lawyers.

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                  • Nathan
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3108

                    #159
                    Originally posted by DS250
                    No it doesn't genius. The content was already uploaded to another source, and he posted links to it on his board. The most these idiots can do is waste money and try and tie him up in court, but the fact tht he is in Amsterdam means they can only bend over, spread their cheeks, and take it in the ass. Please don't assume you have a fucking clue how this works until you have been through one of these cases, which i recently have. You are talking out your ass and speculating. He can simply ignore whatever legal action is taken and go on with his life.
                    He does not just link to them

                    http://www.nastyboards.com/forums/t2...apartment.html

                    He embeds the videos... BIG difference. It does not matter where it is hosted, its ON his site, and its SELECTED by him, he can not claim that its user submitted content, thus he is not protected.

                    And on top of that, the least he needs is 2257 docs...

                    Although we will have to see what the DOJ says to some comments before we are sure of that I guess...
                    Last edited by Nathan; 07-25-2007, 11:26 PM.
                    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                    - Charlie Munger

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                    • Nathan
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3108

                      #160
                      Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.
                      "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                      - Charlie Munger

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                      • DS250
                        Registered User
                        • May 2007
                        • 411

                        #161
                        Originally posted by Nathan
                        He does not just link to them

                        http://www.nastyboards.com/forums/t2...apartment.html

                        He embeds the videos... BIG difference. It does not matter where it is hosted, its ON his site, and its SELECTED by him, he can not claim that its user submitted content, thus he is not protected.

                        And on top of that, the least he needs is 2257 docs...

                        Although we will have to see what the DOJ says to some comments before we are sure of that I guess...
                        If you honestly believe that then all I can say is feel free to sue and see where that gets you. I am talking from experience when i say if it is not on his server then you have nothing, especially because he is not in the US. If you had anything the millions of sites that do the same thing would be taken down, and you would all be living fat off of the damages.

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                        • DS250
                          Registered User
                          • May 2007
                          • 411

                          #162
                          Originally posted by Nathan
                          Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.
                          He stated it himself, plus I checked where his site was hosted.

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                          • Nathan
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3108

                            #163
                            Originally posted by DS250
                            If you honestly believe that then all I can say is feel free to sue and see where that gets you. I am talking from experience when i say if it is not on his server then you have nothing, especially because he is not in the US. If you had anything the millions of sites that do the same thing would be taken down, and you would all be living fat off of the damages.
                            If this is the case, would make for a big loophole in the law... I can hardly beleive it though...

                            I wonder if they think the same way for 2257, which I highly doubt though...

                            But as I said, I doubt they really think this way for DCMA either...
                            "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                            - Charlie Munger

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                            • Nathan
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3108

                              #164
                              Originally posted by DS250
                              He stated it himself, plus I checked where his site was hosted.
                              He can state all he wants, his domain whois is protected... so we will never know for sure...
                              "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                              - Charlie Munger

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                              • DS250
                                Registered User
                                • May 2007
                                • 411

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Nathan
                                Ahh, Amsterdam, didn't see that, how do you know? 2257 of course does not apply then... the rest is still a problem, even in the Netherlands.
                                A million torrent sites in the Netherlands would disagree

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                                • DS250
                                  Registered User
                                  • May 2007
                                  • 411

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by Nathan
                                  He can state all he wants, his domain whois is protected... so we will never know for sure...
                                  I know I'm coming off as an asshole here, but the sponsors that didn't give the first shit about their affiliates interests are now seeing what happens when those affiliates decide to strike back. So it is ok for Steve Lightspeed to profit off of stolen content traffic, which he absolutely does, but not ok for the rest of us? Bullshit!

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                                  • Humpy Leftnut
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2007
                                    • 1292

                                    #167
                                    All this talk of lawyers is making me hungry...
                                    Humpy Leftnut - Pornsumer Reviews

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                                    • Sen
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 347

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by DS250
                                      A million torrent sites in the Netherlands would disagree
                                      Thats why the biggest torrentsites are blocking dutch trafic. They are getting closed down also. But u can not stop it now. The only way to stop it is in your own hands dont pay them. If they cant pay their bills they will stop.

                                      And make a club that searches for this and tries to block them. Most of the times a good email or letter wil be sufficient.
                                      ICQ: 48518296

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                                      • DS250
                                        Registered User
                                        • May 2007
                                        • 411

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by Sen
                                        Thats why the biggest torrentsites are blocking dutch trafic. They are getting closed down also. But u can not stop it now. The only way to stop it is in your own hands dont pay them. If they cant pay their bills they will stop.

                                        And make a club that searches for this and tries to block them. Most of the times a good email or letter wil be sufficient.
                                        But they will always be able to pay their bills, because the Steve Lightspeed hypocrites of the world will bitch about their content being stolen but will gladly profit off of traffic from other's stolen content. They are talking out both sides of their mouth.

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                                        • Sen
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 347

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by DS250
                                          But they will always be able to pay their bills, because the Steve Lightspeed hypocrites of the world will bitch about their content being stolen but will gladly profit off of traffic from other's stolen content. They are talking out both sides of their mouth.
                                          What i don't get is there not somebody at the sponsers checking if the page is good for them. When he submitted somebody had to watch the site right ?
                                          ICQ: 48518296

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                                          • DS250
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2007
                                            • 411

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by Sen
                                            What i don't get is there not somebody at the sponsers checking if the page is good for them. When he submitted somebody had to watch the site right ?
                                            They know exactly where the traffic is coming from, and it is a no lose situation for them. The can profit off of it until they are called out on it, then they can feign ignorance and seize the affiliates money and be lauded as heroes when they do. They are fucking scum, and even though this kid is an arrogant punk he is not in the wrong.

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                                            • Sen
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 347

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by DS250
                                              They know exactly where the traffic is coming from, and it is a no lose situation for them. The can profit off of it until they are called out on it, then they can feign ignorance and seize the affiliates money and be lauded as heroes when they do. They are fucking scum, and even though this kid is an arrogant punk he is not in the wrong.
                                              No u are right why they give away movie files of 100MB away in the partner area if u can not use it ?
                                              ICQ: 48518296

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