LA Man Charged With Obscenity And 2257 Violations - GoFuckYourself.com

BoyAlley · 07-25-2007, 10:18 AM

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Ira Isaacs, 56, has been charged with four counts of selling and distributing "obscene" DVDs via the internet, two counts of using a "common carrier" to distribute "obscene" DVDs, and two counts of failing to label sexually explicit DVDs in accordance with 2257 regulations. Each count carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison.

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"There might have been an inadvertent foul-up with respect to labeling," Diamond said. "They're all adults."

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Diamond acknowledged the videos in question as extreme,. A web search for Stolen Car Films turns up several links discussing Japanese scat videos; the website StolenCarFilms.com does not publicly display titles or images.

http://www.avnonline.com/articles/292611.html

More indictments. Seems to me I'm noticing a common trend, if I'm not mistaken all of the indictments we've seen so far have been for producers that make watersports/scat videos or bestiality videos.

Dirty F · 07-25-2007, 10:20 AM

Damn, i ordered all my scat flicks there. Anybody know another provider?

Azlord · 07-25-2007, 10:22 AM

He's screwed

polish_aristocrat · 07-25-2007, 10:22 AM

thats scurry lawds mercy

candyflip · 07-25-2007, 10:23 AM

So he was shipping scat movies through the US Postal Service?

Dirty F · 07-25-2007, 10:24 AM

Why the fuck do they care so much about this stuff?
Yeah, scat movies are gross and filthy and disturbing but if people like me and Boyalley like that stuff then so fucking what? Nobody is hurt and no damage is done while shooting or watching these kind of movies. I dont get it. Why dont they spend their time and energy on more important things like cutting of Russia from the internet.

Funny thing is someone has to review all those movies hehe. Do they play that shit in court as well?

Jimmy Rock · 07-25-2007, 10:26 AM

I must be way behind the times..i don't even know what a Scat is

Evil E · 07-25-2007, 10:27 AM

Any update on the Max Hardcore case?

Dirty F · 07-25-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock

I must be way behind the times..i don't even know what a Scat is

Its poo.

BoyAlley · 07-25-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by knewon

Any update on the Max Hardcore case?

That process just started. It'll be going on for years before anything is finally decided.

How long as the Extreme Associates case been going on for now? A long time.

Libertine · 07-25-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock

I must be way behind the times..i don't even know what a Scat is

Now you know. Happy?

BoyAlley · 07-25-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Yeah, scat movies are gross and filthy and disturbing but if people like me and Boyalley like that stuff then so fucking what?

Sorry to ruin your fantasies Franck, but I do not like teh poopies, that's all you breeder.

MandyBlake · 07-25-2007, 11:17 AM

ick did you HAVE to post a picture? gross.

DaddyHalbucks · 07-25-2007, 11:19 AM

Somebody must buy it.

Thumbler · 07-25-2007, 11:20 AM

yuk...........

tony286 · 07-25-2007, 11:23 AM

They got him on the Obscenity, the 2257 was thrown in like a cherry on top of the sundae. They can say we will go after mainstream porn but they know they cant get a conviction so they go after the extreme stuff.

dready · 07-25-2007, 11:24 AM

Take the easy targets down first and establish some precedents.

BoyAlley · 07-25-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dready

Take the easy targets down first and establish some precedents.

tony286 · 07-25-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dready

Take the easy targets down first and establish some precedents.

It really doesnt set a precedent for going after mainstream.How do you jump from a girl shitting in some guys mouth to a couple having vanilla sex on a bed? That's a very long leap.

Honez · 07-25-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Now you know. Happy?

I *was* eating lunch.

FakeNick · 07-25-2007, 12:37 PM

one of the gfy admins should probably remove that obscene image from this thread

would be a shame if gfy got indicted for publishing obscene material

Brother Bilo · 07-25-2007, 12:42 PM

That shit is gross, but Dirty ass Frank has a point. Who cares if someone's into it and they watch the "shit" at home? Why should the government decide what should turn people on as long as no crimes have been commited?

ProjectNaked · 07-25-2007, 01:29 PM

The U.S. government has just passed a new law making it illegal to deficate. They consider it to be obscene and any person caught doing it will be jailed.

(just because some people are interested in a repulsive but natural process should "the government" have the power to run their lives??)

flashfire · 07-25-2007, 02:09 PM

thats one gross niche

Lee · 07-25-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Honez

I *was* eating lunch.

Was it arctic log?

RawAlex · 07-25-2007, 02:32 PM

Scat and watersports is a pretty easy target for obscenity charges, because it is pretty easy to find 12 jurors to put in a box that would be disgusted watching some girl eat a guy's shit.

It would also be pretty easy to get 12 jurors to find a guy urinating into a girl's mouth as pretty disgusting as well.

I personally don't have a problem with those things being considered obscene.

dissipate · 07-25-2007, 02:33 PM

anyone want to go get some chocolate?

Jimatcohf · 07-25-2007, 03:38 PM

Sigh this is a subject im very well versed in. Here is a link to 2 news stories they just ran on our case click the link and then on the right scroll down till you see the 2 stories and listen to what they are saying and Larry Walters response.

http://www.weartv.com/players/news/t...es/video.shtml

Libertine · 07-25-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Scat and watersports is a pretty easy target for obscenity charges, because it is pretty easy to find 12 jurors to put in a box that would be disgusted watching some girl eat a guy's shit.

It would also be pretty easy to get 12 jurors to find a guy urinating into a girl's mouth as pretty disgusting as well.

I personally don't have a problem with those things being considered obscene.

You don't have a problem with it? It's a pretty slippery slope. Let's think of some other things that might be considered obscene by 12 jurors...

bukkake
gangbangs
double anal
huge objects
anal stretching (goatse style)
double penetrations (especially things like double anal)
asslicking
etc.

It's dangerous when people forbid things other consenting adults do just because they don't want to watch them

GreyWolf · 07-25-2007, 03:53 PM

The main charge is from the obscenity angle - 2257 is just a substantive "tack on" charge.

Can I be excused from jury duty and not have to watch that shit?

Iron Fist · 07-25-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyBlake

ick did you HAVE to post a picture? gross.

I'll second that. Even though its chocolate, but still.

tony286 · 07-25-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimatcohf

Sigh this is a subject im very well versed in. Here is a link to 2 news stories they just ran on our case click the link and then on the right scroll down till you see the 2 stories and listen to what they are saying and Larry Walters response.

http://www.weartv.com/players/news/t...es/video.shtml

Your case in not the same, scat has been considered obscene for a long long time. This isnt something new.People want to make the big taboo(scat,beastality,rape) money got to be prepared to do the time. This isnt the first scat arrest, with scat there is nothing grey.

tony286 · 07-25-2007, 04:19 PM

double post oops

RawAlex · 07-25-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

You don't have a problem with it? It's a pretty slippery slope. Let's think of some other things that might be considered obscene by 12 jurors...

bukkake
gangbangs
double anal
huge objects
anal stretching (goatse style)
double penetrations (especially things like double anal)
asslicking
etc.

It's dangerous when people forbid things other consenting adults do just because they don't want to watch them

How can I say this? The nature of democracy isn't absolute and unlimited freedom. US law has created a thing called "obscenity" and the courts and such have come down to using a "community standard" test to judge if something is obscene or not.

50 years ago, playboy magazine was all but obscene, and that was the version with just cleavage and legs. Now you get more exposure in a Cosmo magazine. Times change and things move.

Over the last 35 years or so, much of what would have been oscene (including deep throating) has become generally accepted by modern society. As time goes on, more and more becomes acceptable, the public becomes desensitized, and more and more things become mainstream.

A couple of years ago some guy did an interview on CNN wearing a T-shirt that said "GOATSE" on it, they apparently didn't know what it meant.

At some point, when a line is drawn, everything on THIS side of the line by nature will be considered acceptable, and that would help to make our businesses more legitimate. Shit out, cumshots in, watersports out, anal sex in, etc. Draw a line somewhere, and the risk factors in porn would drop dramatically.

Without some sort of judgement one way or the other, we are all flying blind because nobody knows where the line is.

Imagine they take him to court and they find him not guilty. All of a sudden, everything up to and including scat is no longer obscene. Par-tay!

I would hate to be the test case, but the judgement is important.

pocketkangaroo · 07-25-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Why the fuck do they care so much about this stuff?
Yeah, scat movies are gross and filthy and disturbing but if people like me and Boyalley like that stuff then so fucking what? Nobody is hurt and no damage is done while shooting or watching these kind of movies. I dont get it. Why dont they spend their time and energy on more important things like cutting of Russia from the internet.

Funny thing is someone has to review all those movies hehe. Do they play that shit in court as well?

Ask the Republican board members. It'll be tough though, they tend to stay far away from these kind of threads.

IllTestYourGirls · 07-25-2007, 05:54 PM

Ron Paul is your answer to all your 2257 problems....PERIOD

tony286 · 07-25-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

How can I say this? The nature of democracy isn't absolute and unlimited freedom. US law has created a thing called "obscenity" and the courts and such have come down to using a "community standard" test to judge if something is obscene or not.

50 years ago, playboy magazine was all but obscene, and that was the version with just cleavage and legs. Now you get more exposure in a Cosmo magazine. Times change and things move.

Over the last 35 years or so, much of what would have been oscene (including deep throating) has become generally accepted by modern society. As time goes on, more and more becomes acceptable, the public becomes desensitized, and more and more things become mainstream.

A couple of years ago some guy did an interview on CNN wearing a T-shirt that said "GOATSE" on it, they apparently didn't know what it meant.

At some point, when a line is drawn, everything on THIS side of the line by nature will be considered acceptable, and that would help to make our businesses more legitimate. Shit out, cumshots in, watersports out, anal sex in, etc. Draw a line somewhere, and the risk factors in porn would drop dramatically.

Without some sort of judgement one way or the other, we are all flying blind because nobody knows where the line is.

Imagine they take him to court and they find him not guilty. All of a sudden, everything up to and including scat is no longer obscene. Par-tay!

I would hate to be the test case, but the judgement is important.

I'm pretty sure they have but people away for scat. Scat also isnt just obscene its very unhealthy.

dev777 · 07-25-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Azlord

He's screwed

not really

if the guy is in Los Angeles, this is gonna go to the 9th circuit which has turned over tons of obscenity charges.

RawAlex · 07-25-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Ron Paul is your answer to all your 2257 problems....PERIOD

Ron Paul is the answer to the question nobody is asking.

IllTestYourGirls · 07-25-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Ron Paul is the answer to the question nobody is asking.

I guess people are asking the wrong questions.

Barefootsies · 07-25-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Sorry to ruin your fantasies Franck, but I do not like teh poopies, that's all you breeder.

TheJimmy · 07-25-2007, 07:56 PM

quick, someone post a link to 'doo doo brown' by two hyped brothers and a dog

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Why the fuck do they care so much about this stuff? Yeah, scat movies are gross and filthy and disturbing but if people like me and Boyalley like that stuff then so fucking what? Nobody is hurt and no damage is done while shooting or watching these kind of movies. I dont get it. Why dont they spend their time and energy on more important things like cutting of Russia from the internet. Funny thing is someone has to review all those movies hehe. Do they play that shit in court as well?

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Brother Bilo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: I live in cage Posts: 4,193	That shit is gross, but Dirty ass Frank has a point. Who cares if someone's into it and they watch the "shit" at home? Why should the government decide what should turn people on as long as no crimes have been commited? __________________

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Scat and watersports is a pretty easy target for obscenity charges, because it is pretty easy to find 12 jurors to put in a box that would be disgusted watching some girl eat a guy's shit. It would also be pretty easy to get 12 jurors to find a guy urinating into a girl's mouth as pretty disgusting as well. I personally don't have a problem with those things being considered obscene.

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GreyWolf So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,036	The main charge is from the obscenity angle - 2257 is just a substantive "tack on" charge. Can I be excused from jury duty and not have to watch that shit?

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