DRAMA! Tracy/Fantasyc ripped me off on a paypal for epass transfer - GoFuckYourself.com

kane · 07-24-2007, 01:37 PM

I had posted a thread asking if I should take this public a while back. Here is thread, https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/739463-start-drama-200-a.html , and now this is still outstanding so I decided to go public and warn people about what happened.

In a nutshell here is the story:

On May 10th Tracy asked me if I would do a paypal for epass transfer for $200. I had bought content from her before and felt comfortable doing it. Little did I know she didn't have the money in her paypal account to cover it and instead she sold some content to another webmaster and had him pay me via paypal to cover the transfer. Had I known this I would have never done the transfer. Me none the wiser to what is happening, I do the the transfer and everyone is happy.

Then on May 20th I happen to be chatting with her on ICQ about a new content package she has for sale when I get a notification from paypal that there has now been a dispute filed against the $200 she (or so I thought it was she) had sent me for the transfer. When I ask her what is going on all of a sudden she gets strange and starts saying things like, "I need to go do homework I'll be back in 30 minutes." and stuff like that. I have to leave so I tell her to figure it out and let me know. I just assume there was some kind of mistake made. The next day she comes clean and tells me about selling the content to that webmaster to cover the transfer and now he is charging it back.

I don't know what went on between those two exactly. All I know is that he claims he ordered content and paid extra to have it burned to DVD and shipped to him and she never sent it. Eventually, after a few weeks, she emailed him (and cc'd me on the email) the links to download the content but he said that wouldn't work he needed it on DVD. I refunded the guys money and Tracy promised to pay me the $200. I use paypal for a lot of mainstream stuff and didn't want to risk getting it canceled over this.

Tracy promised to pay me ASAP and after a few broken promises I got pissed and made the thread above. That got her attention and she promised to pay me within a day or two of me making that thread and told me she would give me some extra to make up for the trouble. This never happened. I would hear, "I will pay you by tomorrow morning." then not hear from her for 4 days. Then, "It will be before I go to sleep tonight." and nothing. I assumed she was still serious about paying me because she gave me the FTP info for all of their content and told me I could take what I wanted as a peace offering for this taking so long. For the record I have logged into it looking for some 2257 docs, but don't really see much there that I haven't already bought - nor did I find the docs I was looking for.

Finally on July 3rd she sent me a message that said epass has suspended her account and paypal has closed her account for doing adult transactions. She asked if a check would be okay and I told her as long as it was a cashiers check or money order yes. She promised to send it priority mail on July 5th. Of course it never came. She has not returned my emails or ICQ's and I am fed up. I will be filing a complaint with Epass.

I'm not the type of guy to take things public, but this really pisses me off. She has broken at least 5 different promises to pay me and I'm done being patient. This has been going on for more than two months now. So, if you are going to do business with Tracy/FantasyC/Fantasy Content, be wary, you never know what you might be getting yourself involved in.

kane · 07-24-2007, 01:38 PM

Also, sorry for the long post, but it's a long story.

stickyfingerz · 07-24-2007, 01:45 PM

Ill cover the 200.00 if Tracy will work out a nice deal for content for me. Things happen. Im happy with the content Ive bought from her in the past. Contact is in icq if the two of you want to work something out. I can send it paypal with no worries.

Sly · 07-24-2007, 01:51 PM

She's definitely around considering she just hit me up yesterday or the day before to buy content from her. Good luck.

CDSmith · 07-24-2007, 01:52 PM

Kane you've always been a good guy in my book, been reading your posts and posting with you from a way back at old porncity. Sorry this happened to you, hopefully it gets made right for you.

you'd think a lousy $200 would be chicken feed to such a content provider, wouldn't you?

And regarding paypal, so many people these days don't seem to realize that it doesn't matter if you have no funds in your account, you can still send money. Paypal checks your balance, and if there isn't enough money there it automatically debits your credit card.

No reason at all why anyone can't send a $200 paypal, unless their CC is maxed out of course.

baddog · 07-24-2007, 01:56 PM

This is quite the surprise. They used to give the impression of being fairly successful in the past.

baddog · 07-24-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

And regarding paypal, so many people these days don't seem to realize that it doesn't matter if you have no funds in your account, you can still send money. Paypal checks your balance, and if there isn't enough money there it automatically debits your credit card.

Or direct from your bank account.

kane · 07-24-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Kane you've always been a good guy in my book, been reading your posts and posting with you from a way back at old porncity. Sorry this happened to you, hopefully it gets made right for you.

you'd think a lousy $200 would be chicken feed to such a content provider, wouldn't you?

And regarding paypal, so many people these days don't seem to realize that it doesn't matter if you have no funds in your account, you can still send money. Paypal checks your balance, and if there isn't enough money there it automatically debits your credit card.

No reason at all why anyone can't send a $200 paypal, unless their CC is maxed out of course.

The amount of money involved is what made me wait so long to say anything. If it was a huge amount I would have said something earlier. Like you said there are a lot of options. I offered to send her an invoice via Paypal that she could pay with any credit or debit card even if she didn't have a paypal account. She had told me several times that she was selling content and would pay me as soon as the deal was done then nothing. Eventually I just got frustrated with being lied to.

kane · 07-24-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ill cover the 200.00 if Tracy will work out a nice deal for content for me. Things happen. Im happy with the content Ive bought from her in the past. Contact is in icq if the two of you want to work something out. I can send it paypal with no worries.

cool. hopefully she will see this thread. I would be patient with her if she just came clean and told me what was up, but after getting told many times "tomorrow" or "today" you just end up feeling like you are being scammed.

stickyfingerz · 07-24-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

The amount of money involved is what made me wait so long to say anything. If it was a huge amount I would have said something earlier. Like you said there are a lot of options. I offered to send her an invoice via Paypal that she could pay with any credit or debit card even if she didn't have a paypal account. She had told me several times that she was selling content and would pay me as soon as the deal was done then nothing. Eventually I just got frustrated with being lied to.

Offer still stands. I could use more content, and you'll get paid, she'll get free of the debt. Hate to see reps spoiled over 200.00

CDSmith · 07-24-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Offer still stands. I could use more content, and you'll get paid, she'll get free of the debt. Hate to see reps spoiled over 200.00

It's already too late for that in my view. I am already leary of doing business with her based on what Kane has said here. I'm sure others will feel the same.

When someone pulls this kind of shit they do it to themselves.

Your offer is a good one though, she should take the deal.

stickyfingerz · 07-24-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

It's already too late for that in my view. I am already leary of doing business with her based on what Kane has said here. I'm sure others will feel the same.

When someone pulls this kind of shit they do it to themselves.

Your offer is a good one though, she should take the deal.

I feel for her. I had bank issues with both epass and paypal earlier in the month due to switching accounts. So I got hung up on a few payments too for a while. Got it just resolved like 2 days ago and everything paid that needed paid.

baddog · 07-24-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I feel for her. I had bank issues with both epass and paypal earlier in the month due to switching accounts. So I got hung up on a few payments too for a while. Got it just resolved like 2 days ago and everything paid that needed paid.

Believe me, I hate to say this, but after recent posts I haver a feeling this is deeper than just "bank issues."

stickyfingerz · 07-24-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Believe me, I hate to say this, but after recent posts I haver a feeling this is deeper than just "bank issues."

Could be, and Ill proceed with caution on it if it happens.

CDSmith · 07-24-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I feel for her. I had bank issues with both epass and paypal earlier in the month due to switching accounts. So I got hung up on a few payments too for a while. Got it just resolved like 2 days ago and everything paid that needed paid.

Bank issues, any issues etc I can understand. What prevents threads like these from popping up is keeping communication open with the people you owe money to.

Ignoring emails and ICQ's is telling your creditors you might be skipping out on their debt.

It's such a simple thing, yet so many do it it's well over the border and into insaneland.

kane · 07-24-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Believe me, I hate to say this, but after recent posts I haver a feeling this is deeper than just "bank issues."

I'm thinking the same thing might be true. There seems to have been people other than me that have had some problems with her recently.

baddog · 07-24-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I'm thinking the same thing might be true. There seems to have been people other than me that have had some problems with her recently.

several.

DJ Jace · 07-24-2007, 05:22 PM

considering that Tracy will sell her entire content catalog for $100 and has to practically beg people to buy it, this doesn't surprise me one bit

I had to block her more than once from icq for being another annoying content broker

sonofsam · 07-24-2007, 05:26 PM

Everyone who is suprised that CDSmith has butted himself into another drama thread, please raise your hand

kane · 07-24-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

Everyone who is suprised that CDSmith has butted himself into another drama thread, please raise your hand

CDSmith and I go way back so I'm not surprised to see him in here. I normally don't pay much attention to drama threads so I would have no idea if he normally posts in drama threads or not.

CDSmith · 07-24-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

CDSmith and I go way back so I'm not surprised to see him in here. I normally don't pay much attention to drama threads so I would have no idea if he normally posts in drama threads or not.

The youngster doesn't realize how a message board works.

See, SonofScam, here is how it works --- people post a topic, and then... here's the key part of the situation, pay attention son....

other people here get to comment.

In fact the purpose for posting a new topic by it's very nature is to invite comment. Usually those posting want productive intelligent comments though, which sadly leaves you out.

Neat eh?

You should try it anyway. Oh wait, you've stuck your nose into about 40 such threads in the 5 minutes since you've been back.

stickyfingerz · 07-24-2007, 06:13 PM

Cant reach her either. If someone get ahold of her let her know about my offer to help resolve it before I change my mind.

CaptainHowdy · 07-24-2007, 06:14 PM

I hope you get your money back ... : /

CDSmith · 07-24-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Cant reach her either. If someone get ahold of her let her know about my offer to help resolve it before I change my mind.

Stop butting in. SonofScam will be all over you in seconds ridiculing you with piss and moaning, no one should ever post in anyone else's thread. NO ONE!

facialfreak · 07-24-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

Everyone who is suprised that CDSmith has butted himself into another drama thread, please raise your hand

Sadly true ...

You're making it really hard to hate you SoS -- a troll with logic

Juicy George · 07-24-2007, 06:30 PM

I 've bought content off her a few times without any problems, BUT recently i paid her for a massive amount of content and we'd agreed that she would fedex it to me. All was fine after payment and she said she'd get a tracking number.. then nothing! No reply's on ICQ and now she's obviously set her account to appear offline...

The funniest part was 2 days ago when she contacted our affiliate support ICQ trying to sell content! I said when you send me what i've paid for i might buy more and soon after she was gone again...

tranza · 07-24-2007, 06:33 PM

That's fucked up man.... I hope you get your money back...

tranza · 07-24-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

Everyone who is suprised that CDSmith has butted himself into another drama thread, please raise your hand

Lolololololololololol...

CDSmith · 07-24-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Lolololololololololol...

What a surprise.

CuriousToyBoy · 07-24-2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy George

I 've bought content off her a few times without any problems, BUT recently i paid her for a massive amount of content and we'd agreed that she would fedex it to me. All was fine after payment and she said she'd get a tracking number.. then nothing! No reply's on ICQ and now she's obviously set her account to appear offline...

The funniest part was 2 days ago when she contacted our affiliate support ICQ trying to sell content! I said when you send me what i've paid for i might buy more and soon after she was gone again...

Hit me up George.

sonofsam · 07-24-2007, 08:02 PM

CDSmith.... HURRY UP MAN... WHY HAVN'T YOU FOUND A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM YET!??!

kane · 07-24-2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy George

I 've bought content off her a few times without any problems, BUT recently i paid her for a massive amount of content and we'd agreed that she would fedex it to me. All was fine after payment and she said she'd get a tracking number.. then nothing! No reply's on ICQ and now she's obviously set her account to appear offline...

The funniest part was 2 days ago when she contacted our affiliate support ICQ trying to sell content! I said when you send me what i've paid for i might buy more and soon after she was gone again...

It looks like the same thing happened in my situation. The guy she sold content to and had pay me was supposed to get the content mailed to him. He told me that he had contacted her a few times and she had promised more than once to ship it out asap and give him a tracking number. He says it never happened. Since I wasn't involved in the transaction (other than being the unknowing payee) I can't say for sure what happened, but it looks like the same deal and I've seen a few other threads saying the same things. This is why I feel (along with some others) that there is something more to her not paying me than just bank errors.

Bake · 07-24-2007, 08:55 PM

Hope you this get this fixed

kane · 07-25-2007, 03:26 PM

I just wanted to bump this thread and let everyone know that this situation has been taken care of. Stickyfingerz followed up on his promise and got some content from Tracy and he paid me the $200 as he said he would.

That is something he didn't need to do. I don't really know him that well and this is something that he didn't need to do. I appreciate his doing this and I'm glad that this entire thing has been put to rest.

CDSmith · 07-25-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

I just wanted to bump this thread and let everyone know that this situation has been taken care of. Stickyfingerz followed up on his promise and got some content from Tracy and he paid me the $200 as he said he would.

That is something he didn't need to do. I don't really know him that well and this is something that he didn't need to do. I appreciate his doing this and I'm glad that this entire thing has been put to rest.

Awesome, glad to hear it man. Not enough good endings like this in this business.

Kudos to Sticky.

stickyfingerz · 07-25-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

I just wanted to bump this thread and let everyone know that this situation has been taken care of. Stickyfingerz followed up on his promise and got some content from Tracy and he paid me the $200 as he said he would.

That is something he didn't need to do. I don't really know him that well and this is something that he didn't need to do. I appreciate his doing this and I'm glad that this entire thing has been put to rest.

Not a problem it all worked out for everyone. Good stuff.

IllTestYourGirls · 07-25-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Not a problem it all worked out for everyone. Good stuff.

no preview of what you bought? Way to mediate

Klen · 07-25-2007, 05:38 PM

I glad this thing resolved beacuse i am resseler of Tracy content.And i never had problems with her so far.But i dont know why she is sometime so clamsy.

stickyfingerz · 07-25-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

no preview of what you bought? Way to mediate

Ive bought from her before and it was good stuff. Everything looks great so far that Ive got downloaded.

96ukssob · 07-25-2007, 05:54 PM

reminds me I am still owed $50+ or so with of content that I've been waiting for.

Im not pissed at teh quality of the content, but the stories that went along with it. I was told she was having a problem with their camera, then with her computer, etc etc etc. Nonetheless, 3 months later still wiating...

Barefootsies · 07-25-2007, 05:56 PM

CyberHustler · 07-25-2007, 06:04 PM

maybe she's a crack head now?

07-24-2007, 01:37 PM	#1
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	DRAMA! Tracy/Fantasyc ripped me off on a paypal for epass transfer I had posted a thread asking if I should take this public a while back. Here is thread, https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/739463-start-drama-200-a.html , and now this is still outstanding so I decided to go public and warn people about what happened. In a nutshell here is the story: On May 10th Tracy asked me if I would do a paypal for epass transfer for $200. I had bought content from her before and felt comfortable doing it. Little did I know she didn't have the money in her paypal account to cover it and instead she sold some content to another webmaster and had him pay me via paypal to cover the transfer. Had I known this I would have never done the transfer. Me none the wiser to what is happening, I do the the transfer and everyone is happy. Then on May 20th I happen to be chatting with her on ICQ about a new content package she has for sale when I get a notification from paypal that there has now been a dispute filed against the $200 she (or so I thought it was she) had sent me for the transfer. When I ask her what is going on all of a sudden she gets strange and starts saying things like, "I need to go do homework I'll be back in 30 minutes." and stuff like that. I have to leave so I tell her to figure it out and let me know. I just assume there was some kind of mistake made. The next day she comes clean and tells me about selling the content to that webmaster to cover the transfer and now he is charging it back. I don't know what went on between those two exactly. All I know is that he claims he ordered content and paid extra to have it burned to DVD and shipped to him and she never sent it. Eventually, after a few weeks, she emailed him (and cc'd me on the email) the links to download the content but he said that wouldn't work he needed it on DVD. I refunded the guys money and Tracy promised to pay me the $200. I use paypal for a lot of mainstream stuff and didn't want to risk getting it canceled over this. Tracy promised to pay me ASAP and after a few broken promises I got pissed and made the thread above. That got her attention and she promised to pay me within a day or two of me making that thread and told me she would give me some extra to make up for the trouble. This never happened. I would hear, "I will pay you by tomorrow morning." then not hear from her for 4 days. Then, "It will be before I go to sleep tonight." and nothing. I assumed she was still serious about paying me because she gave me the FTP info for all of their content and told me I could take what I wanted as a peace offering for this taking so long. For the record I have logged into it looking for some 2257 docs, but don't really see much there that I haven't already bought - nor did I find the docs I was looking for. Finally on July 3rd she sent me a message that said epass has suspended her account and paypal has closed her account for doing adult transactions. She asked if a check would be okay and I told her as long as it was a cashiers check or money order yes. She promised to send it priority mail on July 5th. Of course it never came. She has not returned my emails or ICQ's and I am fed up. I will be filing a complaint with Epass. I'm not the type of guy to take things public, but this really pisses me off. She has broken at least 5 different promises to pay me and I'm done being patient. This has been going on for more than two months now. So, if you are going to do business with Tracy/FantasyC/Fantasy Content, be wary, you never know what you might be getting yourself involved in.

07-24-2007, 01:51 PM	#4
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07-24-2007, 01:52 PM	#5
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07-24-2007, 05:22 PM	#18
DJ Jace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 49	considering that Tracy will sell her entire content catalog for $100 and has to practically beg people to buy it, this doesn't surprise me one bit I had to block her more than once from icq for being another annoying content broker __________________ need blog work? - [email protected] feedpushers.com \| xxxis.net \| maximumcheese.com

07-24-2007, 06:14 PM	#23
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07-24-2007, 01:38 PM	#2
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Also, sorry for the long post, but it's a long story.

07-24-2007, 01:45 PM	#3
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Ill cover the 200.00 if Tracy will work out a nice deal for content for me. Things happen. Im happy with the content Ive bought from her in the past. Contact is in icq if the two of you want to work something out. I can send it paypal with no worries.

07-24-2007, 01:56 PM	#6
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	This is quite the surprise. They used to give the impression of being fairly successful in the past.

07-24-2007, 05:26 PM	#19
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07-24-2007, 06:13 PM	#22
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Cant reach her either. If someone get ahold of her let her know about my offer to help resolve it before I change my mind.

07-24-2007, 06:30 PM	#26
Juicy George Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 289	I 've bought content off her a few times without any problems, BUT recently i paid her for a massive amount of content and we'd agreed that she would fedex it to me. All was fine after payment and she said she'd get a tracking number.. then nothing! No reply's on ICQ and now she's obviously set her account to appear offline... The funniest part was 2 days ago when she contacted our affiliate support ICQ trying to sell content! I said when you send me what i've paid for i might buy more and soon after she was gone again... __________________ MSN - [email protected] Yahoo - [email protected] AIM - juicygeorgy ICQ -392086396

07-24-2007, 06:33 PM	#27
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07-24-2007, 08:02 PM	#31
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,639	CDSmith.... HURRY UP MAN... WHY HAVN'T YOU FOUND A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM YET!??!

07-24-2007, 08:55 PM	#33
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07-25-2007, 03:26 PM	#34
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I just wanted to bump this thread and let everyone know that this situation has been taken care of. Stickyfingerz followed up on his promise and got some content from Tracy and he paid me the $200 as he said he would. That is something he didn't need to do. I don't really know him that well and this is something that he didn't need to do. I appreciate his doing this and I'm glad that this entire thing has been put to rest.

07-25-2007, 05:38 PM	#38
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I glad this thing resolved beacuse i am resseler of Tracy content.And i never had problems with her so far.But i dont know why she is sometime so clamsy.

07-25-2007, 05:54 PM	#40
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	reminds me I am still owed $50+ or so with of content that I've been waiting for. Im not pissed at teh quality of the content, but the stories that went along with it. I was told she was having a problem with their camera, then with her computer, etc etc etc. Nonetheless, 3 months later still wiating... __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

07-25-2007, 05:56 PM	#41
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07-25-2007, 06:04 PM	#42
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 27,030	maybe she's a crack head now? __________________ “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”